I've always liked the instrumentals of Cradle of Filth, but I could never get used to the vocalist. Something about him just didn't sit right with me 

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Ryan_Strain wrote:I've always liked the instrumentals of Cradle of Filth, but I could never get used to the vocalist. Something about him just didn't sit right with me
ColorsFade wrote:Never heard of them (Cradle of Filth) before; just hit YouTube... Ugh. The chick singing = A. Guy vomiting vocals = F.
Within Temptation started out like that, with all the goth vomit vocals mixed with their female lead singer's vocals, then figured out that Sharon was the best and most marketable part of their band.
If a guy's gonna "sing" I wish more of them would actually sing like Roy Khan from Kamelot.
Ryan_Strain wrote:
People like CraigMaxim assume that just because I listen to Death Metal (which he calls "Screamo" just because it has metal "screaming" vocals), that that's ALL I listen to. So I get hated a lot.
CraigMaxim wrote:Ryan_Strain wrote:
People like CraigMaxim assume that just because I listen to Death Metal (which he calls "Screamo" just because it has metal "screaming" vocals), that that's ALL I listen to. So I get hated a lot.
I don't hate you. And I'm not hating ON you.
I never said, nor assumed that you had no other musical interests. My point is that SCREAMO which, for me, is any rock music that has predominantly screaming, for vocals, is a VERY LIMITED genre.
I don't deny that it requires skill.
I also don't deny that you are top notch at it.
But again, it is a "one trick pony" and as such, like anything else, gets boring after awhile with no real diversity.
Most of the time you can't even understand the lyrics, so what is the point of HAVING lyrics?
Teenagers get ANGRY, because they grow up from a weak position. Adults are bigger and stronger and more clever and have the power, and are not always fair with the power they wield. Kids are trying to figure out who they are, they push their boundaries, DEMANDING their desire to control their own lives, they are learning to take a stand, but they are still young, and so just rebel to rebel. Not always because they have a worhthwhile issue or cause.
And all this uncertainty, and anger over mistreatment through childhood, both real and perceived, causes alot of ANGER!
This anger is natural and understandable. But it is also supposed to be a passing phase. Not a damn lifestyle!
Your chosen genre, has in effect now, GLORIFIED and LEGITIMIZED continual and incessant anger as a MUSICAL FORM supposedly worthy of respect. Now rather than being just a passing phase, you get to take this "music" with you, into adulthood, and STAY ANGRY without getting over it, and growing up and assuming control over your life. Screaming angrily is NOT control, but usually, a LACK OF CONTROL.
So, rather than just being a blight on real MUSIC (already bad enough) screamo is also a threat to CIVILITY and MATURITY! It helps neuter CREATIVITY, OPEN MINDEDNESS, COMPASSION, FORGIVENESS, JOY.
It glorifies SCREAMING, which is in essense, glorifying ANGER.
It especially bothers me then, that YOU are choosing this field, even though you are good at it, because YOU, young man, are a professing Christian. And you conveniently chose NOT to answer my previous question about what being a follower of Christ means to you, and what qualities Christ' possessed and a Christian should emulate, and which qualities most represents Christ's teaching.
And I suspect you did so for a reason.
Because YOU KNOW, as well as I do, and as well as non-Christians do, that Jesus' central message was LOVE and FORGIVENESS.
And belonging to a genre that promotes ANGER, and no other emotion, cannot be very compatible with a RELIGION or TEACHING that promotes LOVE and FORGIVENESS.
You can SCREAM the Sermon on the Mount, and it will still be ANGER. You can scream the lyrics to "I just called to say I love you" and it will just be ANGER. The message is LOST, unless the message is ANGER and nothing else.
Is that your message?
Is that Christ's message?
Sucks to actually think things through doesn't it?
I think you will find a way to justify it all though, but that is not because you love God, it would be because you love attention, the hope of fame, and glorification of yourself by others. Because spreading anger does NO SERVICE to the cause of Christ, no matter how you spin it for yourself, so you can get away with it, in your conscience.
But show me that I am wrong, if I am.
I will consider thoughtfully anything you offer in support of it.
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Ryan_Strain wrote:
So to say that all music of a certain genre is all one emotion is just ridiculous.
Ryan_Strain wrote:So don't tell me how I feel, or how music makes ME feel. You may feel anger from METAL, but I don't. People have differences...Accept it and stop arguing.
GLENJ wrote:God man these are some incredible ,great lyrics ,and the music is killing them ,you are kidding right. I know you don't want to be mainstream but Carley Simon couldnt write this better. I Just learned how to modernize thanx man.
As I lay dieing is incredible. Held you in my arms but 2 far from my heart.. WOW, Say it again WOW.
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