I can understand the "boring" comments. Listen to the backing music - it's 4/4 and never changes. Malmsteen has some of the best abilities ever, but he doesn't do anything even remotely interesting with them. He's locked into standard rock conventions. Which seems weird, given that he's 'classically trained'. Where's all the time signature changes? Where are the interesting compositions and thematic work?
I'd much rather listen to Petrucci's work.
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#52283 by ColorsFade
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:53 pm
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:53 pm
ColorsFade wrote:I can understand the "boring" comments. Listen to the backing music - it's 4/4 and never changes. Malmsteen has some of the best abilities ever, but he doesn't do anything even remotely interesting with them. He's locked into standard rock conventions. Which seems weird, given that he's 'classically trained'. Where's all the time signature changes? Where are the interesting compositions and thematic work?
I'd much rather listen to Petrucci's work.
That's because he was pretty fixated on attaining commercial success for many a year. With a rock band.
Probably still is.
Who's Petrucci ?
gtZip wrote:Who's Petrucci ?
The robot that plays guitar for Dream Theater (DT).
~just kidding DT fans- that was a play on his critics concerning his picking style being too rigid~
ST
You and me both, man!
Heres somebody pickin' on Petrucci a little bit (no pun intended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
And here's an un-boring cover of "Smoke on the Water"
(Vai, Satch, and Pet) -lol-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Z5cvzK ... re=related
Heres somebody pickin' on Petrucci a little bit (no pun intended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
And here's an un-boring cover of "Smoke on the Water"
(Vai, Satch, and Pet) -lol-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Z5cvzK ... re=related
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#52322 by ColorsFade
Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:11 am
Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:11 am
sarahstear wrote:gtZip wrote:Who's Petrucci ?
The robot that plays guitar for Dream Theater (DT).
~just kidding DT fans- that was a play on his critics concerning his picking style being too rigid~
ST
Hehe

I'd kill for his technique. It's flawless. Mine sucks. I'm too tense when I play lead. Petrucci's precision seems unreal.
For the uninitiated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b1RZUJhMWk
The second link is the end solo to Octavarium. It's my argument to people who think Petrucci is all technique and no emotion. I think that solo resonates with me perhaps more than any other piece of guitar work I've ever heard. It has more impact after you've sat through the entire 20-minute piece, but even isolated it's a powerful piece of work.
As for Vai - love some of his work. He has always been creative; I'd say the antithesis of Malmsteen when it comes to creativity. But Vai tends to get lost in an overuse of weird effects and the crutch of rock sensibilities. I've often wondered what Vai could have accomplished in a band like Dream Theater, where he would have been pushed to expand on his ideas.
ZXYZ wrote:You and me both, man!
Heres somebody pickin' on Petrucci a little bit (no pun intended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
And here's an un-boring cover of "Smoke on the Water"
(Vai, Satch, and Pet) -lol-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Z5cvzK ... re=related
I don't know why Petrucci became the center of all this attention, but it really does't get old.. I can watch these over and over and over and just chuckle til I get up for another drink.
lol.
ZXYZ wrote:You and me both, man!Thats a funny vidieo ,I wish I could find a good video of VIA wisper and prayer to post but all the ones ive found the sound qualty is like home vidio. If you have never heard it its verry mellow and creative. PEACE.
Heres somebody pickin' on Petrucci a little bit (no pun intended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
And here's an un-boring cover of "Smoke on the Water"
(Vai, Satch, and Pet) -lol-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Z5cvzK ... re=related
ColorsFade wrote:
The second link is the end solo to Octavarium. It's my argument to people who think Petrucci is all technique and no emotion. I think that solo resonates with me perhaps more than any other piece of guitar work I've ever heard. It has more impact after you've sat through the entire 20-minute piece, but even isolated it's a powerful piece of work.
I think you state the main difference between the two artists. Vai isn't as technically "precise", and john petrucci, though he does bend strings, doesn't really BEND strings. there's a difference between bending half a note variance like an epilectic sheep versus bending a string a whole note and half over and over like your trying to rip it off the bridge. I prefer the latter, it sounds like you have a vested interest in the destruction of your guitar

ST.
ST- dude.You dont have any audio here yet? Upload sumptin! It's a musicians' site.
I'll have to check out whisper and prayer Eddy. My favorite is 'In my Dreams' - the funny thing is there's hardly any guitar solos in it..
(the vid sucks- the singer looks psychotic- its better just listening to the song-
here:) http-- <link> I'm having pc problems ,, deleted the link.. nuthin major, just taking no chances//
Its a foreign site -
Really good song imho.

I'll have to check out whisper and prayer Eddy. My favorite is 'In my Dreams' - the funny thing is there's hardly any guitar solos in it..
(the vid sucks- the singer looks psychotic- its better just listening to the song-
here:) http-- <link> I'm having pc problems ,, deleted the link.. nuthin major, just taking no chances//
Its a foreign site -
Really good song imho.
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Yngvei is a classical musician and he loves arppeggiated music, Steve Via is a musical acrobat and he was Frank Zappas Little Italian Virtuoso, and in my Very Experienced Opinion exstremely melodic.
Joe Satriani is absoulutly in the same league.
I have a special attachment to Mr. Eric Johnson because he is a fellow Texan and a definite virtuoso.
John Petrucci is also on of my favorites and also an acrobat, but in my humble opionin lacking the discipline to play the blues
But I also adore the music of Pink Floyd, Alan Parsons, Tony Emanuel, Los Lonely Boy's, and Johnny Cash!
So how many of these guy's are really into classical music and arppegiated music? only one in my humble opinion the Maestro Yngvei
Joe Satriani is absoulutly in the same league.
I have a special attachment to Mr. Eric Johnson because he is a fellow Texan and a definite virtuoso.
John Petrucci is also on of my favorites and also an acrobat, but in my humble opionin lacking the discipline to play the blues
But I also adore the music of Pink Floyd, Alan Parsons, Tony Emanuel, Los Lonely Boy's, and Johnny Cash!
So how many of these guy's are really into classical music and arppegiated music? only one in my humble opinion the Maestro Yngvei
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