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#34129 by Craig Maxim
Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:36 pm
btw...


Maybe my jumping on Michael (Ace) had something to do with this as well? I take that kind of stuff seriously, cause here is a guy who is pretending to be something he is not, insults a friend straight out the gate, and in the same breath, threatens people's careers, with his alleged industry contacts.

That can be damaging to people who don't know any better.

Take Phil, for example, who bought into it, hook line and sinker, to the point that he was dismissing some of us as fools, people he DOES know, and was ready to leave the boards, because we "threatened" some non-existent career opportunity, by a charlatan who he didn't even bother to check out.

The guy has no industry credentials. He runs a small business putting DJ's in nightclubs, of which he has only 2 of those. I know a local guy here, who puts DJ's and runs Karaoke set-ups in at least 6 clubs. Man, I should have realized that he could get me a record deal as a result! LOL And a better one than Ace, considering my friend's business is three times as big.

In any event, I have posted tons of information here on the music industry and felt I have given good advice to those coming up. I know that I have also learned alot from the veterans here as well.

Quite a few of you have called me or contacted me privately through MySpace and email, for advice and support, and I have always done what I could.

I can "try" and stay away from the political discussions if that helps.

But I have enjoyed the debates, I have learned alot, and I feel I have made quite a few real friends on here, who I look forward to meeting in person some day, regardless of their position on the Iraq war or anything else.

I thank those who have been a friend to me, and hope I have been a friend to you as well. Nevertheless, I can walk away if that is necessary, because I want to be a benefit to this community not a detriment to it.

#34130 by Irish Anthony
Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:40 pm
craig your right....im truly sorry for bringing your wife and family into something that had nothing to do with them....

im ashamed of myself and im going to remove that statement because it is not how i feel in the slightest...


sorry again...

im sure we both said more than we should...


peace.

#34132 by Koolin82
Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:48 pm
I just wish this place had a couple of good moderators. Not to quash lively debate but just to throw a bucket of water on threads like this before everybody says things they really don't mean and later regret.

#34139 by koolmom78
Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:02 pm
Well I tried to break these boys up! I'm glad you guys are cool now tho and that this will end the way it began - in the name of peace. Bad publicity is not always better than any publicity ;)

Craig, it is appreciated that you did some homework on this guy because a lot of young kids come on here lookin' to get discovered...let's just give them less to read next time? :wink:

#34143 by Craig Maxim
Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:28 pm
irish anthony wrote:craig your right....im truly sorry for bringing your wife and family into something that had nothing to do with them....

im ashamed of myself and im going to remove that statement because it is not how i feel in the slightest...


sorry again...

im sure we both said more than we should...


peace.



Thanks Anthony.

This made me do alot of soul searching though. Especially comments suggesting that the world has to be my vision of it.

I can see very easily how I come across like that.

It is a personal liability and something I need to work on.

I think that I have grown up with alot of people trying to convince me of sh*t, even life changing sh*t that somewhere along the line, I realized that I have wasted sometimes years of my life believing in people, and their agendas, who in the end, only turned out to be charlatans. It made me really learn to be critical in my thinking, which is actually a good thing, but I think it also got confused, where in debating the merits of any issue, I often tend to take it too seriously, as if it is life or death.

As I go back through, I have had some confrontational arguments over religion and politics, but also screamo music? It must have seemed like I was trying to direct Mike's entire career path, and forcefully so. That wasn't really my intention. I was truly trying to understand the lure of it.

But also, I think that I am realizing through this, that I argue my positions passionately and strongly, and not always because I am absolutely, without doubt, sure of each of them, but because I think I feel that if I argue well and strongly enough, it forces the other person to dig deep, for their rebuttals, and through the process I learn which argument has the best merits.

Some issues I have come to believe in without doubt, but others I am sometimes just refining through exchanges of information. But it comes out instead, as if I know everything, and expect everyone to adopt the same positions. In reality, sometime I am just working out my own beliefs, with the debating being the refining fire.

In any event, I need work on my social skills.

And again, I apologize to anyone for anything done intentionally or anything misunderstood.

I like everyone here, and long ago, I learned that I could disagree with anyone on the most serious issues, and look past it at their unique values and qualities.

There is something I have found to appreciate and value about everyone here, and I feel badly, that doesn't always come across.

#34144 by Craig Maxim
Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:28 pm
koolmom78 wrote:
Craig, it is appreciated that you did some homework on this guy because a lot of young kids come on here lookin' to get discovered...let's just give them less to read next time? :wink:



I never promised to stop being verbose. ;-)

#34145 by Shapeshifter
Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:23 pm
So....it's not a paying gig?

#34157 by The Hunter
Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:20 am
Man, this is a long thread!
I'm out of popcorn! :lol:

#34162 by gbheil
Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:31 am
Aw crap another peace rally :D
Man, work a couple of nights and miss all the fireworks.

#34184 by @Ace Entertainment
Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:32 am
The date for the music festival (is that less fight prevoking than peace?) is now set for September 7, 2008. The first band will perform at noon and the headliner will come on around 10pm. Musician's wanting a position in the lineup on the stage should contact @Ace Entertainment Records at ace.entertainment.records@gmail.com. Please send a press kit or link to a sample of your music if you would like to be considered for an invitation to the event. The ticket sales begin July 4th weekend all performers will be booked within the next two weeks. Already have several spots filled. Don't Delay.

#34186 by Crip2Nite
Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:09 am
......airfare and hotel included?????

#34226 by Starfish Scott
Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:45 pm
LOL Yeah since we are all apologizing, I am sorry I banged your wife(s).

And Gentry's whole family..(chuckle)

But don't check my DNA, I don't want to be legally related just yet..lol

"I am not the father."

#34231 by Mike Gentry
Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:43 pm
Including my dog? No wonder he's been acting strange. Sick bastard. Did your mom tell you how her false teeth really got stuck in her throat?

#34240 by koolmom78
Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:20 pm
@Ace Entertainment wrote:The date for the music festival (is that less fight prevoking than peace?) is now set for September 7, 2008.


Just wanted to point out that those dealing with people as a source of income may benefit from the Art of Not Getting Offended and Dousing Fires...

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