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http://socialspinwheel.com/10-scandals-that-could-destroy-donald-trumps-presidential-campaign/

"The Social Spin Wheel" now that is some serious yuck yuck. Thank you for giving me a chuckle and "approving" this Planet Guy. All this nonsense will be of no consequence when and if the "Election" does not happen , cancelled or whatever. GrandMa Hag is the best choice because of her "qualifications" ... another laugh. I firmly believe that this demoness is a great danger and that the "Election" will not even happen. It is all a distraction whilst things like the Internet is taken over tomorrow by the UN. It is easy to give opinions on this mythical election instead of recognizing that the country is already fallen from within not from without.
Planet guy I apologize for tainting your thread but I felt highly motivated. Good luck to you.

Citing feasible possibilities is paranoid and opposing a Hag who is lying, dying and leaking anf thoroughly unfit to hold even a position of DogCatcher. "Deplorable" is the best little clever touch you can put upon the entire affair. But let us not insult one another. Let us discuss this. I think Trump is the only hope for the USA Inc. I assume you believe Hillary will be the best. Let us bandy this about without insult and explain to each other why. I am not looking at this as a contest but rather as an attempt on my part to understand why you feel the way you do and perhaps explain to you why I do. It seems clear that neither will change their mind so that is acceptable and we can forget convincing one another but let us just try to understand the other's point of view and accept it without insult or attempt to change it. A friendly discussion. And others can join in as long as they accept these conditions .... sound acceptable ?

All character traits aside, this is an election about ideology.
The SOS x2 or possible change. Which do you choose?

"Change....for the sake of change"? for the obama haters and name callers, those who continue to refuse to acknowledge he ever did ANYTHING good .... since their view is "it's ALL gone to $hit" and the world is gonna end a week from tues.....yeah, they're gonna be the first to vote for "change".

and those who see it otherwise, and so aren't hung up on the desperate need to "change", that's not a reason to vote for an outsider (who doesn't have a clue).

of course there are things that should be changed and things that could be done better. when or where is that ever NOT the case?


for me, it's not hard to extrapolate what this country might look like under each candidate's presidency. and i simply look at their track records ( everyone hold yer horses....no need to point out either candidates boo boos or what you BELIEVE to be their boo boos......we all know the score there at this point, thank you very much).
i simply look at their level of exp, ideologies, temperament, and track record, and it's a simple and clear cut choice.

Vampier, as for serious non contentious discussion on this, i have little respect for the whole "branding thing", and those who engage in it as trump (and you) do.

trump had a cute little nickname for each of his republican opponents and for everyone he has a beef with. IMO it's a tactic that paints it's practitioner in a poor light. and when these 'brand names" are used over and over and over.... as soon as i hear "Black Messiah", "Lying Hag", and all the other pet names.....that says more to me about the person stooping to that kind of 'branding" than it does about their target. and it negates serious and substantive conversation.

yes, i called trump a "Cheese Doodle" the other day....but that's not how i continually refer to him ad nauseum.


change for the sake of change? w someone as unhinged and unqualified as trump?.... i don't think so.

my 2008 Toyota Sienna is getting a little long in the tooth w 280K miles on it....it's got some rattles and it's kinda dinged up. but i sure as hell aren't going to replace it w an Edsel just for the sake of change.

RUI ... Obviously I propose no name calling towards one another or the prospective candidates. I ask you two questions on this basis ... one regarding each candidate.

Can we agree at least on these ...
Do you agree with me that Hillary at 70 yrs old and exhibiting health problems of a debatable nature but serious ... is on the "edge" of being fit in this regard alone ... of performing the demanding requirements that being President requires.

Do you agree that Trump has been outside the political arena and as a business mogel has dealt effectively with both Parties up to his declaration to run for President.

Two simple things. Planet Guy please chime in as well if so inclined. Ta

Why are you more focused on her age when trump is two yrs older? .

Hilary's health records (like her tax records) are avail for all to see. and trump's.....not so much so. instead he hires some clown with a "Dr." who never examined him to recite a written statement trump's camp prepared him. he admitted as much.

why does this not give you pause?

Planet Guy ... I am not "focusing" on anyone's age. I merely state that her health is an issue regardless of her age and at 70 any health issue is compounded. Trump is healthy, very active and energetic. In this respect which horse would one bet on. But let us just stick to the basics. Do we agree that her health issues are serious whatever they are, that the demands of office require good health and sound mind especially now. Can we at least agree on this. I feel it to be true about anyone.

Also Trump seems to have dealt very well in the maze of business politics and dealing with all sorts of people to be effective and successful in the business arena. He makes good deals between a host of different "parties"., people and laws. It seems obvious to me and this totally aside from the "Race of Presidency" he has entered.




i thank you and Jookeyman for your quick Posts. I agree with all you have stated on your Post Jookeyman ... what do think about his Post Planet Guy.

Wonderful observation JookeyMan. I concur and feel that the "failing" is not the system and Constitution but it is the people themselves. Those who plot to make the Morlocks and the Morlocks themselves. It is a tragedy but in many prophecies it has all been foretold. Humanity has been made suicidal and rendered useless. We all watcxh THE DEATH OF THE USA INC.

Global Government is what the USA INC. is only one step away from and that step is being taken whilst the Diversion and perversion of the "Election" distracts and causes conflict diverting the attention of the few who still think. These few have differing views of course because that is the magic of critical independent thought and reasoning.

Unfortunately it seems that even upon this little Forum the effects of Globalism are alive and well. The diversion of "Election" is working well and even amongst Musicians ... Artists ... Composers ... Poets and even some Warriors there is no possibility of any basic consensus on the most basic statements.

The "Average of the general Masses are victims, unaware, unawakened, immoral, greedy, selfish and utterly corrupted. Those "Globalist" Evil Puss Bags and Hags ... all Demons of the lowest order think they are in "Control" and winning but they are not either. They are the biggest losers, the most blind and corrupt.

I appreciate your willingness to express yourself as I do others. We are all "THERE" now ... even those who can not see it. I pity them but they are beyond seeing now and certain doors are closing as others open. The Internet will very soon be gone as we all have come to know it. We are worse than Honey Bees because we know and have a semblance of influence of control but even that little thing now is vanishing. It grows increasingly grim and that is not what people wish to hear or see even though it is the Truth.

JookeyMan ... my apologies. Old habits die hard it seems even when one is trying. I was referring not so much to Hillary but at Merkel and the lot in the EU and also Soros, Kissinger and a few others. I promise on this thread I shall double check myself in the future. I( hope you change your mind and continue as I think you have many excellent points. Spe4aking of which ... yes as a matter of fact I did suspect Trump in the beginning of being exactly what you have stated. I still believe that there is a chance of that however smal or possibly even after he gets in ... he could be compromised but When given the two I would vote for him over the other. I have never voted.
The facts you brought up are most worthy and applicable I feel. It seems to me that regardless of who may win or lose ... if the political arena continues along the same path then there will be great bloodshed as the common masses reach their limit. If ever there was a time for a military coup I believe it to be now. George Washington was a General, Eisenhower was a General and there are others as well ... they were not so bad but now someone will have to be spectacular to pull the fat out of the fire.
For the most part I feel the country has been lost already. There is a plan to rduce and then eliminate the populations of this world. It is on the cusp of having progressed so far that it is almost beyond the point of no return. The figures you quoted on the percentages of population make the most sense to me and are more believable than "Barry's" by far. Regarding copyright and ownership you make perfect sense and outline one of the dangers of a NWO I feel.
I think that one of the most pressing questions is what each of us think regarding what to do and what must be done. Once again I hope to hear back from you and the others. I shall be more careful upon this thread in future.