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#263850 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:49 pm
Jookeyman wrote:
Planetguy wrote:Bill uploaded some more video to youtube.

for your viewing pleasure and displeasure...I give you "Roger The Mouse".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDBolpfGew


My favorite # of the gig.
Like the '3rd Stone' reference by Bill. :wink:


yeah, i knew you'd dig that one! and i also knew you'd catch and appreciate Bill's Hendrix quote.

i had more quotes ( "My Country Tis Of Thee", "Tequila", "Put it Where You Want It") but w that Hendrix quote...that round definitely goes to the guy in the green trunks, and sweat socks w sandals!

RuiMusik wrote:Brilliant! I left you a YT comment.


thanks for the kind words! re: your comment about the recording....i feel Bill captured everything (audio) very well....but for my tastes, he slathered on too much reverb. and this was AFTER his first mix which actually had more. i think his mix is fine (esp the drums) for a Rock or blues band....but i just don't "hear" that much 'verb' for jazz. but Bill is more of a R&R guy and he does like his reverb.

viva la difference!

thanks for checking it out guys. 8)
#263857 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:29 pm
Jookeyman wrote:I didn't really give the other tunes a long hard listen because I was already familiar w/ these from other recordings!!

See, you have a follower way down South. :)
I'm already on to a good deal of your #s.


really???? duuuuude!

it's JAZZ....the only thing similar is the head! i'm not comparing our $hit to Coltrane or Miles or any of the jazz greats, but that's kinda like saying "well, i don't need to hear this live version of "____" because i heard them do it on their record!!!!

if you haven't already checked it out, the video performances of "Squirel Curfew"...."Gone Goodbye"...."Iguana"....they're entirely different performances than previous versions. Bill tends to play much the same, but Monty and I... we're in the moment playing off each and trying different things all the time.

We all have our "vocabulary" and pet phrases, pet moves, and of course....just the way we play, but i try to approach every performance of a tune differently, and certainly try to make every solo different from the last ( not saying they're anything brilliant, or ground breaking...just that they are.......DIFFERENT).

for instance....during my solo on this live performance of "Squirrel Curfew" i got into this chromatic bit of biz that i'd never played on that one, and Monty is right there with me! (and i KNOW you're a fan of chromaticism)...so, taking on a pass (if you did) on that most recent live take because you heard our studio take on it ( w clarinets that are absent here!) ...well, maybe you missed out on something. or maybe NOT!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

it also occurs to me...that i improvised a totally new intro for "Squirrel" to set up the tune at this gig as well....you didn't hear THAT on the studio take! ( i love how just playing some simple but different voicings and inversions of a Cm7 chord can actually sound half way interesting on a vibraphone!)

for me, that's what attracts me to playing improvisational music. not just playing a bunch of random things that can go in any direction at any time ( though that CAN be fun) but finding something interesting, and DIFFERENT each time you approach a structured tune and change things up WITHIN the "boundaries" of a (mostly) set and finite form.

that's why people who dig jazz can listen to yet another version of "Giant Steps" or "Seven Steps To Heaven".....cos it's always (supposed to be) different. :D

but it's all good my brutha! i do appreciate the "fan-age" and you taking the time to check stuff out and weigh in w positive words. :D
#263860 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:57 pm
just thought of something else pretty dif on this take of "SQ".....i did a little thing w the melody i hadn't done before.

i play the melody in the A section "as written" over 8 bars.....and then after doing that a cpl of times, i elongate the melody to a 16 bar phrase. i don't recall if Bill's reaction is captured on the video but he caught it and was pretty tickled by the move! his little take was most satisfying when that went down...as it showed me he was listening and that he appreciated the move. :D

damn...i fogot all about that...i really need to start incorporating that move into how we do it....but not ALL the time, maybe!!! 8)
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#263861 by DainNobody
Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:58 pm
the verizon datareplenish.com website shut me down mid-stream while listening to the "Roger The Mouse".. I would say it is more jazzier than your typical reggae tunes..
#263863 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:01 pm
no worries, jook. there STILL ain't NEARLY enough hrs in the day,

...the get HALF OF IT done!
#263864 by DainNobody
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:02 pm
ok, got a question, if you don't mind me asking of course, but it says copyright given to MAL, but it's Bill's tune? or do you mean copyright on the video and not the tune itself?..
#263867 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:12 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:the verizon datareplenish.com website shut me down mid-stream while listening to the "Roger The Mouse".. I would say it is more jazzier than your typical reggae tunes..


thanks for the view, dayne.

yeah, i hear what you're saying and that's likely true.

but, it's not unlike referring to something as a "blues".....there's a shit-ton of jazz tunes that use the blues form. and they are referred to exactly that way... when jazzers say"let's play a fast blues in F"....it's not gonna be T Bone Walker shuffle but instead something that uses the blues form. (and likely some hip chord subs).

but it still adheres to the same basic changes as a blues and so it's referred to as such.

so, calling "Roger" reggae...that only refers to the rhythm/groove, and lines played by the dif instruments. ( like the gtr skanking).

BTW...i have to fight my natural tendency which is to try to play EVERY song w reggae groove. In that regard (and that's the ONLY regard, sadly) i'm like David Lindley...that guy plays just about EVERYTHING w a reggae groove!

though i might wish i could play like him...i don't really envy his fashion sense. 8)
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#263870 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:16 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:ok, got a question, if you don't mind me asking of course, but it says copyright given to MAL, but it's Bill's tune? or do you mean copyright on the video and not the tune itself?..


i'm curious Dayne, what gave you the impression that it's Bill's tune?

no, it's mine. Bill did the titles that you see before ea tune like this:

PLANET JAZZ
tune's name
copyright / author
#263876 by Displaced Pianist
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:29 pm
Planetguy wrote:Bill tends to play much the same, but Monty and I... we're in the moment playing off each and trying different things all the time.

We all have our "vocabulary" and pet phrases, pet moves, and of course....just the way we play, but i approach every performance of a tune differently and certainly try to make every solo different from the last ( not saying they're anything brilliant, or ground breaking...just that they are.......DIFFERENT).

for me, that's what attracts me to playing improvisational music. not just playing a bunch of random things that can go in any direction at any time ( though that CAN be fun) but finding something interesting, and DIFFERENT each time you approach a structured tune and change things up WITHIN the "boundaries" of a finite form.

that's why people who dig jazz can listen to yet another version of "Giant Steps" or "Seven Steps To Heaven".....cos it's always (supposed to be) different.

That's what I was getting at when we discussed this before; when you build up some time w/ the same guys, you get to know where they're going and how they'll react, and over time, you can be tight while improvising and playing off each other. To me, that's what makes jazz so interesting.

Unfortunately--certainly around here, anyway--it seems the point of playing music is to make money, as much as you can as quick as you can. The music is incidental, sorta like the carpenter's hammer--just a tool used to make money. The focus is always 'how fast can we start bookin' gigs?' and the preferred unit of measure is minutes. At a session one night, I was walking a couple new guys through some (what I thought were) relatively straight-forward tunes, and when we got to Porkpie, one of 'em said, "Porkpie? Nah, man, too much work, takes too long. Let's just do Mustang Sally." I kid you not.

So it's the piano bar for me--music to get drunk by. Think I'll see if there's a score for Piano Man out on the web. (Stepping off soapbox.)

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