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#226770 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:41 am
GuitarMikeB wrote:"Old fart" is an attitude, not an age. I've met plenty of guys younger than me who are old farts. I only act that way on occasion! :lol:




BINGO!!!


Hey I turn 54 this Friday. Most youngsters can't keep up with me, so I sure don't need some old fart whining about having to show up after his day job not knowing the music, or telling me how he won an award in 1977, like that matters now? Old farts are the negative lazy people who think they are something.


First of all they have to be amazing musicians...but after that I want people with energy, a sense of humor, and a thirst for adventure.


The really good musicians are just like that. Curmudgeons stay away!


Jeff, you are lucky to avoid all the posers by doing that. Believe me, the people you want to play with will respect your professionalism. Even if you get fewer calls they should be higher quality prospects. But those folks want to get paid so I find it helps to have a sense of urgency about booking a "goal date" for them to be motivated and ready.


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#226773 by WHENEVILCALLS
Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:13 am
And for the record our last bassist Coke was 52 and kicked ass. Metal is not age but a state of mind. nuff said.

#226776 by J-HALEY
Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:01 pm
yod wrote:
GuitarMikeB wrote:"Old fart" is an attitude, not an age. I've met plenty of guys younger than me who are old farts. I only act that way on occasion! :lol:




BINGO!!!


Hey I turn 54 this Friday. Most youngsters can't keep up with me, so I sure don't need some old fart whining about having to show up after his day job not knowing the music, or telling me how he won an award in 1977, like that matters now? Old farts are the negative lazy people who think they are something.


First of all they have to be amazing musicians...but after that I want people with energy, a sense of humor, and a thirst for adventure.


The really good musicians are just like that. Curmudgeons stay away!


Jeff, you are lucky to avoid all the posers by doing that. Believe me, the people you want to play with will respect your professionalism. Even if you get fewer calls they should be higher quality prospects. But those folks want to get paid so I find it helps to have a sense of urgency about booking a "goal date" for them to be motivated and ready.


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That's what I'm hoping for Ted! Once your new band members see how focused and talented you are, you guys will be on your way to great things!

#226777 by J-HALEY
Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:04 pm
WHENEVILCALLS wrote:And for the record our last bassist Coke was 52 and kicked ass. Metal is not age but a state of mind. nuff said.


So true, someone posted on Facebook yesterday a picture of Ozzy on his chopper sporting his sleeved tats in sunglasses! 8)

#226778 by jw123
Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:29 pm
LOL, Im an old fart of 51!!!!!!


Actually Im at a cross roads with it all myself, Ive auditioned for a couple of working bands and I really cant committ to thier schedules.

Not sure what to do musically anymore, cause in some ways it is a young mans game.

To the poster, its tough to find decent players of any age.

I like Yods idea of showing videos of people in action playing live, it tells the whole story.

Anyway good luck to the original poster, It just takes time and patience.

I assume you are younger so get out where people are playing your style of music live and introduce yourself to active musicians. Bands are breaking up all the time and lots of good players get displaced.

#226779 by GuitarMikeB
Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:07 pm
J-HALEY wrote:I have been searching for a band. The replies I was getting were from either musicians that can't find a band and want to start one, or posers. I am now asking for any bands interested to please Reply with YouTube vids and a website. So far all I hear are crickets LOL Nothing, nada, zilch! Waiting patiently! I have a link to my bandmix site listed in the ads anything you want to know about me is on there?


Hey Jeff - note that the CL 'anonymous' reply system has been crappy - messages NOT getting through. So if you are using it (and not putting your actual email address in the reply thingie) you may want to add some info in your ad stating that you will reply to all responses within 48 hours - if they don't get a response, try contacting you a different way (like through your reverbnation site, whatever).

#226780 by GuitarMikeB
Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:11 pm
WHENEVILCALLS wrote:I guess it doesn't matter if im #1 in my area on reverb even if its out of 12 bands , I have no vocalist its just the music alone getting that rating. You think people would want to jump on this. But yeah CL is a cesspool and theres only so many musicians in the area meeting the distance and criteria on here. So I doubt im gonna reup for bandmix premium service again, man thats a joke. Sorry for the rant im no noob I've been doing this since 97. Times change and attitudes of musicians get even worse I guess. Either way I got something and im not about to stop.


Reverbnation rankings don't mean squat! If you pay them, they move you up in the numbers, if not, then it seems to be fairly random, but has more to do with how much activity you generate (new fans, etc).

"Since 97" means 16 years of experience. There are plenty of folks here with double that (and more) experience - and its not any easier for us, either.

#226808 by WHENEVILCALLS
Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:36 am
Dude im not paying for nothing on reverb. That's not the point. Ive been through so much sh*t healthwise but I just kept going so don't be like oh well you know it all , cause you don't. Keep doing your thing man and i'll keep doing mine. I'ts about making music the people can feel. And I do that.

#226813 by gbheil
Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:35 pm
I'm an old fart.
Proud the Lord has chosen to allow me to live this long.
Old farts . . . ROCK

#226816 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:55 pm
The Lord loves old farts. I do too....just don't want to be in a band with them, or with curmudgeons (no matter what age)

;-)

#226827 by WHENEVILCALLS
Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:23 pm
Im 39 and in my prime. Age is a state of mind.

#226829 by Slacker G
Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:19 pm
WHENEVILCALLS wrote:Dude im not paying for nothing on reverb. That's not the point. Ive been through so much sh*t healthwise but I just kept going so don't be like oh well you know it all , cause you don't. Keep doing your thing man and i'll keep doing mine. I'ts about making music the people can feel. And I do that.


I don't believe he was trying to be a know it all. He is just relating his experience to Reverberation. I was on there for a while also and was always last in my area profile, no big deal. I only quit because it seemed a waste of time not worth getting all their "offers" Reverberation is filled with phoneys as well as good musicians. Just like on Soundclick, some purchase their ratings from spammers just so they can be #1 (Of what????) .

This place has real musicians that have been there done that and they still keep the music flowing no matter what develops. Most of us are not looking to be stars or even make a lot of money playing music. A lot of us play just because we can. :)

None of these guys will go out of their way to insult any musician on their musical skills. Quite the contrary, they have a world of experience amongst them and can always offer constructive criticism and advice when you ask for it. (I mean other than calling you stuff like "Old Goat" and the likes. ) But I don't mind because most of these guys are the real deal and I consider them "cyber" friends. Even if some of them look far older that me. 8)

#226849 by MikeTalbot
Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:07 am
I'm thankful to have lived this long - but also more than a little surprised!

Talbot

#226854 by Slacker G
Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:19 am
MikeTalbot wrote:I'm thankful to have lived this long - but also more than a little surprised!

Talbot


I understand. I thought I wouldn't live to be 20. Then I thought I'd never make 30..... and on it went. Been lucky so far. A while ago a friend and I went over the list of musicians that we have worked with that have died. He and his wife are also on the list now, along with a dozen or more others. Makes you wonder at times.

#226916 by Lynard Dylan
Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:40 pm
I agree craigslist sucks, but if FBob says bm is a good place to find musicians I'm going to join, need a bass player. Wanna bet I can jewem down on a premium membership?

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