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#217977 by gbheil
Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:30 am
I have offered kindly advice more than once.
But your too self absorbed to realize it.
I will not shut nor be told so by a snot nosed brat.
This is a musicians site, not a date service for the mentally retarded.


Go away.

#217984 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:06 am
sanshouheil wrote:I have offered kindly advice more than once.
But your too self absorbed to realize it.
I will not shut nor be told so by a snot nosed brat.
This is a musicians site, not a date service for the mentally retarded.


Go away.


I'm not going away until I reach someone who is not so damn judgemental. Someone who is not so quick to say things like, "oh, you need to be on a dating site" and assumes I'm mentally retarded just because I'm trying to stand up to a bunch of bullies or looking for something different than what most "musicians" are looking for.

I need to reach individuals who are nice enough to share their experiences on a given website, and who are nice enough to show me how to use the site to effectively find what I'm looking for.

I have a feeling that the people I've been reaching on numerous sites like Baton Rouge Rocks, Craigslist and Bandmix are the "self-aborbed" individuals. That explains the snooty and stuck up attitudes I've encountered, such as high and mighty hardcore rockers viewing their music as superior to pop, or reaching people who always feel they need to make fun of my goals so they can look good in front of their "friends". And reaching people who only get into music to make money, or to impress the ladies, or to go to bars or clubs and get drunk with friends. I don't want to be a part of that lifestyle.

I'm looking for a guy around my age who I can become best friends with, who just happens to play music as a hobby, but who is talented, and can help me expand and move beyond playing covers, and who can show me how to do mixing and recording. Someone who has some other non-music related part time job, such as working in retail or something.

#217986 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:29 am
In order to find this guy, I need to network with some music teachers in my area, and bands and solo artists in my area that play pop and soft rock music. It also helps to be able to advertise who I am and what I'm looking for on a variety of music sites, and to ask around on numerous music forums, as opposed to sticking to one.

I also need to connect with some guys around my age in general who like some of the music I like, but who also have a secondary passion, like playing video and computer games.

Also in order to effectively find some good solid networks, I need to talk to people who are willing to share their experiences on a given website, and show me how I can use it to effectively reach the audience I'm looking for. This is in contrast to the people who just throw out some random suggestion, and expect me to try it blindly. And when I discover that the suggested site was a joke, or discover that it doesn't have a key feature on it that could greatly help me in my search (such as a discussion forum) or when I look at the site, and come back and state that the site is geared towards gigging and working musicians, or that there aren't very many musicians in my city posting on that site, that person accuses me of making excuses, or still pushes me to try the site anyway.

Why does everybody have to be such dicks to me over this? Why don't people listen to me when I point out some helpful tips on how they can help me better?

#217991 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:43 am
Another thing that could help me out in this search is discovering some people on YouTube in my area who do music vlogs, where they talk about some of their favorite pop songs, and show various things related to music.

One time, I commented on one of my favorite artist's videos, a Canadian dude named Adam Stanton requested me as a friend on a channel called AdamStantonTV. I eventually checked out his alternate channel, Stanton Music Online, he didn't like everything I enjoyed, but he had a cover of a few of my favorite songs. I'd like to discover someone like him, but in Baton Rouge.

#217993 by Cajundaddy
Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:23 am
He's back!

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#217997 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:01 am
Do not start with your crap, Jon. That really isn't cool at all. It's distracting to those who are trying to help me, and it's encouraging all the other trolls to keep trolling me. Stop with the trolling, and acknowledge some of the suggestions I gave on how to help, and let me know what you come up with.

Again. I know what I need to find, but this site alone isn't enough to reach my desired audience. One of the main reasons is that in order to contact someone, you have to upgrade to the paid version of this site. Most of the people I'm trying to reach are NOT going to want to do that, thus they can't contact me directly here. Therefore, they might've been on here at one point, but left.

Also keep in mind that the reason I'm looking for someone who isn't playing in a committed or gigging band right now, and doesn't have a music based job is because this is about friendship, and doing other common interest activities besides music. Second, if we decide to do something bigger, like do some shows around the Baton Rouge area, I don't want him to have a break up another project.

#217998 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:20 am
Again, guys, I gave some hints on how to help me better. Acknowledge those, and stop all the trollish behavior. Work with me and let's have some good discussions.

Help me expand and make some new discoveries, whether it's a guy in my area who does music vlogs on YouTube and showcases some of his originals and covers, or a much more appropriate website I can use, among many other things.

I have no intention of upsetting anyone on here. If I did, I'm sorry. But all of you who are upset with me and who say things like "grow up" or "stop making excuses" and the like, need to just relax. There is no reason to be uptight.

#218003 by Crip2nite
Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:13 pm
Then why the fuk are you looking for "friends who's top priority isn't music" on bandmix? This site is musicians looking for musicians... Not someone who's looking for friends to play video games with and maybe kerplunk a key or 2 on the piano when passing by on his way getting cookies and milk for his manly slumber party.., Go look in your local classifieds for your widdle friends to play with. and Stop with the fukkin' self pity...ya sound like your vagina's giving you trouble again!

#218008 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:00 pm
Crip2nite wrote:Then why the fuk are you looking for "friends who's top priority isn't music" on bandmix? This site is musicians looking for musicians... Not someone who's looking for friends to play video games with and maybe kerplunk a key or 2 on the piano when passing by on his way getting cookies and milk for his manly slumber party.., Go look in your local classifieds for your widdle friends to play with. and Stop with the fukkin' self pity...ya sound like your vagina's giving you trouble again!


What did I just say in this topic? Relax. Do not get all uptight over nothing. I know what this site is. But again, somewhere you misinterpreted what I was looking for. I am looking for a friend around my age who is talented, plays keyboard, and like me, has a good working knowledge of music theory and knows how to use mixing and recording software, and who has a passion for a lot of the artists I enjoy. Therefore, I need a place similar to this that allows me to sample his stuff, (preferrably starting with covers of songs that I can play, or that I'm working on) and a way to review his profile, and an alternate way to contact him. I would like to recreate a wide variety of my favorite songs with this guy, as well as do our own creations.


The only local classified I had access to has turned to crap. On top of that, I was banned from there sometime in early 2011 over a stupid argument I was having in the discussion forums, when I was trying to find out why my ad was being flagged. And that's the local Baton Rouge section of Craigslist. That place is now mostly populated with individuals who ALSO want to do make money playing music and doing gigs, and unlike on this site, I have no way to talk to people as a group, and review individual profiles.

My point is I'm beginning to think that the audience I'm trying to reach is either already pursuing a music career, or doesn't know about the various places that were reccommended to me as good places to search. This includes Baton Rouge Rocks, the local Baton Rouge section of Craigslist, posting a PHYSICAL copy of my request at Baton Rouge Community College, and at Guitar Center, and even trying it on a dating site called OKCupid a few times.

#218033 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:49 pm
This brings up another point. The individuals I'm trying to reach are more than likely not going to be on dating sites, simply because well, that person might already have a girlfriend or boyfriend if he's gay, or he might like being single, and is focusing on his academics, and other hobbies and interests, and like me, chooses to stay away from the shady nautre of some of those dating sites.

#218035 by Cajundaddy
Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:09 pm
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The only thing here at Bandmix for you Cliffy is kangaroos. Lots and lots of Kangaroos. Party on my friend! :lol:
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#218036 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:38 pm
"The only thing here at Bandmix for you Cliffy is kangaroos. Lots and lots of Kangaroos. Party on my friend!"

Why is it everywhere I go I'm always bombarded by people who think it's cute to troll a message board, and make jokes, or I'm bombarded by "advide" from working/gigging musicians, and snooty or stuck up rockers who LOVE to brag about how "cool" they are, just because they have more expeirnece playing in bands, and who love to badmouth any of my favorite pop and soft rock artists?

I am especially appalled by the fact that a lot of the people I've seen on here, and on Baton Rouge Rocks, and Craigslist are supposed to be of the age to be good fathers and grandfathers, but instead they decide to pick on every newbie that comes along, instead of working out their issues. The trollish behaviors I've seen in my search I expect from a kid, or a young teenager, but not from adults in their 20s and up.


Don't get me wrong, I expected SOME level of trolling on the various sites I've tried, but everywhere I turn, the board or ad posting site is saturated with them, and it gets to the point where it just comes off as a pathetic attempt for attention, or the person has issues of his own that he hasn't worked out yet. And on top of that, a lot of these people that mess with me, post and run, but at the same time, are nice to their "friends" on the site.

I would block these trolls, but none of the sites I've been have a blocking system that works as it should. For example, this site, and Baton Rouge Rocks blocking system both simply block a post from being seen temporarily when you block a given user, but you can STILL see when that given makes a post, and optionally STILL read the post. The blocking system should prevent that given person from ever being seen altogether.

It's probably because of all these trollish behaviors, and me trying to stand up to these trolls, that I also can't reach the audience I'm looking for, whether it's indirectly (making connections, and learning about all things music related going on in my city) or taking the direct apporach.

This is why before trying a suggested website or venue, whether it's a global site like Bandmix, a local board like Baton Rouge Rocks, or an ad posting site like Craigslist, I'd like to connect with individuals around my age who have similar music tastes, and goals, and hear some success stories, and learn how to use the given website effectively to get the responses I'm looking for.
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#218037 by Cajundaddy
Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:05 pm
"a pathetic attempt for attention, or the person has issues that he's hasn't worked out yet."

Yes exactly! You said it, we didn't. Now maybe we are getting somewhere! :idea:

#218038 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:07 pm
Thejohnny7band wrote:"a pathetic attempt for attention, or the person has issues that he's hasn't worked out yet."

Yes exactly! You said it, we didn't. Now maybe we are getting somewhere! :idea:


I'm referring to all these trolls. Not me. I'm not the one with issues here. Unlike you guys, I don't go around badmouthing other people's favorite artists, and I don't go around telling people that they are mentally retarded, or that they need to use a dating site, when in general I am clearly in the right type of place.

In other words, I am looking for someone who DOES play keyboard, but unlike a lot of the places where I've been looking, I'm looking for someone who isn't currently playing in a committed or working band or who's already pursuing a solo career. I'm looking for singular talent, and someone at the intermediate level. Someone who's serious enough about his passion for playing pop and soft rock music, and has experience playing keyboard, but is simply either taking a few simple classes at a local college, and/or has a part time job in retail or something.

#218040 by cliffordN25
Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:21 pm
And also why do a lot of people give up on me way too quickly whenever I point out some good reasons as to why a given suggestion won't work for me, or would like to talk to the person about the suggestion to find out how to use it effectively to find what I'm looking for? What happened to listening to other people's success stories and failures, and learning from them? Why do I keep running into people who give the impression that they are just as clueless as I am, and look up some random thing on Google, and coax me to try it regardless of the sites or venue's flaws or limitations?

And also whenever I give some good suggestions of my own, why are they ignored completely by the people who are trying to help, and the person still insists I should try their more far-fetched suggestion which would still reach an audience of musicians with too much band experience, and who are currently making money playing music?

Again, all of this has happened not just on here, but also on sites like Baton Rouge Rocks, Craigslist, and to a lesser extent, through physical responses to my ads.

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