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3rd good thing, the Moorish (Islam) influence in Spain in the middle Ages.. left many inventions that generally could be considered improvements on basic "dark ages" mentality mode of living then practiced by Western culture..

name a very few...
-Moors Parachutes/Hangliders - Weapons tech... Not life inprovements.

-Moors Dicipline of Surgery - (taken from Hippocrotes- Greek 500 BC)
Life improvement

-Moors Averoism - A muslum Philosopher, who actually tried to reconcile Islamic Philosophy with Aristotelianism. Of course, Thomas Aquinas later referred to the outcome as 'radical Aristotelianism'. So in effect, the Muslums 'surgically' selected what suited their imperitives. (Hence the challenge later, about their 'moral' value)

most of these distinctions Occured near the Onset of ISLAM and were really more a function of Arabic/Mauric culture, rather than ISLAM. ISLAM suppressed most of it as it quickened and exapnded. HOWEVER..One very distinct attribute of ISLAMIC expression was in its architecture. While it was beautiful to see, it existed for Musulms and not for anyone else.

Yep, nobody can list 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done 'FOR' the USA..

In conclusion, its pretty clear that when you stack that up against the list of 5 or more BAD things that the ISLAMISTS have done TO the USA, it seems to me... that the evidence implies that ISLAMISTs (aka Muslums) HATE Americans in the USA.

What remains then, is what should be done about that... Should we examine why they hate us? What changes should the USA implement that would accommodate and appease the muslums... SHARIA LAW? Should we adopt that?... If we deny them that.. should they just be asked to 'deal with it" or leave?

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

Yep, nobody can list 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done 'FOR' the USA..

In conclusion, its pretty clear that when you stack that up against the list of 5 or more BAD things that the ISLAMISTS have done TO the USA, it seems to me... that the evidence implies that ISLAMISTs (aka Muslums) HATE Americans in the USA.

What remains then, is what should be done about that... Should we examine why they hate us? What changes should the USA implement that would accommodate and appease the muslums... SHARIA LAW? Should we adopt that?... If we deny them that.. should they just be asked to 'deal with it" or leave?

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

Spoken like an ignorant extremist.


This guy obviously shares your viewpoint!

These people are CHRISTIANS
and they accurately represent all of Christian thinking!!
I know this is true ... because a Muslim extremist told me so!!! :roll:

Yep, nobody can list 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done 'FOR' the USA..

In conclusion, its pretty clear that when you stack that up against the list of 5 or more BAD things that the ISLAMISTS have done TO the USA, it seems to me... that the evidence implies that ISLAMISTs (aka Muslums) HATE Americans in the USA.

What remains then, is what should be done about that... Should we examine why they hate us? What changes should the USA implement that would accommodate and appease the muslums... SHARIA LAW? Should we adopt that?... If we deny them that.. should they just be asked to 'deal with it" or leave?

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

Vinny: "Spoken like an ignorant extremist."

Prove me wrong then...(And not with your weak anecdotal suggestions...How about some REAL proof...I'm waiting, Vinny. )
BTW, why are you assuming that my sentiment stems from Christian theology... Is that your slution to anything you cant understand r wrap your head around? Is it possible that just maybe I'm right? I'm working with FACTS, Vinny... (You do know what those are, right?)

Yep, nobody can list 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done 'FOR' the USA..

In conclusion, its pretty clear that when you stack that up against the list of 5 or more BAD things that the ISLAMISTS have done TO the USA, it seems to me... that the evidence implies that ISLAMISTs (aka Muslums) HATE Americans in the USA.

What remains then, is what should be done about that... Should we examine why they hate us? What changes should the USA implement that would accommodate and appease the muslums... SHARIA LAW? Should we adopt that?... If we deny them that.. should they just be asked to 'deal with it" or leave?

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

Vinny: "Spoken like an ignorant extremist."

Prove me wrong then...(And not with your weak anecdotal suggestions...How about some REAL proof...I'm waiting, Vinny. )
BTW, why are you assuming that my sentiment stems from Christian theology... Is that your slution to anything you cant understand r wrap your head around? Is it possible that just maybe I'm right? I'm working with FACTS, Vinny... (You do know what those are, right?)

I have suggested your "sentiment" stems from Ignorant extremism.

Your game relies on a deeply flawed and misinformed premiss that all Muslims are Islamist extremists.

The Westboro Baptist Church is a Christian church ... just ask them, they will tell so!

Do they offer fair representation accurately characterizing all of Christianity?

If I accept the logical premiss of your ill conceived game, the answer will have to be:
ABSOLUTELY YES! they do offer fair representation accurately characterizing all of Christianity!

lol Where do you sign up to become an infidel?

That's the only thing I don't have on my CV thus far.

lol Where do you sign up to become an infidel?

That's the only thing I don't have on my CV thus far.

I think you can register at the Islamic Center of Hunterdon on Fridays.

lol You know I would..

http://www.ichcnj.org/index.php

I just checked, they don't have a sign in sheet. LOL

You scare me with local talk, Vinny.
NJ is like a disease, don't catch it or you'll be craving human flesh as well.
Or is it just human brains..MmmmmMmmmmm good. lol

PaperDog

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

The answer is: 1967. That is when Ted Kennedy built bipartisan support for a plan to balance the number of white people in the US with minorities from third world countries. All of a sudden it was out with E Pluribus Unum and in with "Diversity is our Strength." (ludicrous? yep. but they sold it)

The plan was simple, the immigrants would have no history of freedom and wouldn't be whining about the constitution all the time - just throw them a bone from time to time. The American population that had just won a World War was just too hard to govern - they liked to pretend they mattered.

So you can be sure the open borders policy of Bush/Obama et al is part of a plan, not an accident. Borders can be defended. Ours our not. That should tell us something.

Talbot

Yep, nobody can list 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done 'FOR' the USA..

In conclusion, its pretty clear that when you stack that up against the list of 5 or more BAD things that the ISLAMISTS have done TO the USA, it seems to me... that the evidence implies that ISLAMISTs (aka Muslums) HATE Americans in the USA.

What remains then, is what should be done about that... Should we examine why they hate us? What changes should the USA implement that would accommodate and appease the muslums... SHARIA LAW? Should we adopt that?... If we deny them that.. should they just be asked to 'deal with it" or leave?

The answer lies in a very salient Question: ...WHEN THE f**k DID AMERICAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE IT WAS OKAY TO COMPROMISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY and BOW TO THE DEMANDS OF OTHER NATIONS? (CAUSE THAT"S WHAT THE f**k WE ARE DOING)

Vinny: "Spoken like an ignorant extremist."

Prove me wrong then...(And not with your weak anecdotal suggestions...How about some REAL proof...I'm waiting, Vinny. )
BTW, why are you assuming that my sentiment stems from Christian theology... Is that your slution to anything you cant understand r wrap your head around? Is it possible that just maybe I'm right? I'm working with FACTS, Vinny... (You do know what those are, right?)

I have suggested your "sentiment" stems from Ignorant extremism.

Your game relies on a deeply flawed and misinformed premiss that all Muslims are Islamist extremists.

The Westboro Baptist Church is a Christian church ... just ask them, they will tell so!

Do they offer fair representation accurately characterizing all of Christianity?

If I accept the logical premiss of your ill conceived game, the answer will have to be:

Vinny, you clearly have an issue here... Can you simply list 5 Good things that ISLAMISTS have done for the USA? Why cant you be honest and admit that you cant? Why must you try and turn this into an argument about Christian flaws? Here is my premise: There is Absolutely NOTHING about Islam that benefits the world (let alone the USA). If you read my earlier posts, you might have caught a distinct and profound point I made about individuals, who were Muslim, whom I respect. Those friends were/ are 'good folks'... They were good because they were 'good' people...not because they were ISLAMISTS... So again...List 5 GOODThings that 'ISLAMISTS" have done for the USA... The fact is you cant! Period... Deferring the issue by pointing to other forms of bad behavior isn't going to change the facts here. Why do YOU call me ignorant extremist, for simply presenting the challenge? If I hunt your ass down and blow your car up...Then and only then can you call me an extremist... (and ignorant , if i follow through with that, after posting about it here )

name 5 good things the AMISH have done for this country?

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

What does having doing something good for the country have to do with the argument over islam?

As far as I'm concerned, islam's worst traits (as described in the koran) are no worse than christian dogma. ALL religions want only 1 thing. Same thing the borg wanted- assimilate or die, resistance is futile.

Don't the christians proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth? Don't they truly believe they are such? They clearly don't see muslims as meek. Nor anyone else.

This really is a stupid thread and discussion

name 5 good things the AMISH have done for this country?

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

What does having doing something good for the country have to do with the argument over islam?

As far as I'm concerned, islam's worst traits (as described in the koran) are no worse than christian dogma. ALL religions want only 1 thing. Same thing the borg wanted- assimilate or die, resistance is futile.

Don't the christians proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth? Don't they truly believe they are such? They clearly don't see muslims as meek. Nor anyone else.

This really is a stupid thread and discussion

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

I'm thinking of that french word, that best describes you...what is that word..um ...oh yeah...bourgeois ...emphasis on 'tendancy to lean toward mediocraty" By your own admission, you have reaffirmed what we suspected all along...That you are self serving and basically useless: "People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody. "
Gosh Kramer... The thread isn't stupid...But maybe you are... I mean, perhaps the next muslim marathon bomber will steam-roll your pot-smoking ass... as you 'quietly lay there believing you live in peace. Good Gawd Kramer!

name 5 good things the AMISH have done for this country?

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

What does having doing something good for the country have to do with the argument over islam?

As far as I'm concerned, islam's worst traits (as described in the koran) are no worse than christian dogma. ALL religions want only 1 thing. Same thing the borg wanted- assimilate or die, resistance is futile.

Don't the christians proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth? Don't they truly believe they are such? They clearly don't see muslims as meek. Nor anyone else.

This really is a stupid thread and discussion

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

I'm thinking of that french word, that best describes you...what is that word..um ...oh yeah...bourgeois ...emphasis on 'tendancy to lean toward mediocraty" By your own admission, you have reaffirmed what we suspected all along...That you are self serving and basically useless: "People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody. "
Gosh Kramer... The thread isn't stupid...But maybe you are... I mean, perhaps the next muslim marathon bomber will steam-roll your pot-smoking ass... as you 'quietly lay there believing you live in peace. Good Gawd Kramer!

Spoken like a true hardcore extremist.

This man is THE CHAMPION of your cause.
You should name your new band The Texas Templars

We who ourselves used to have pleasure in impure things now cling to chastity alone. We who dabbled in arts of magic now consecrate ourselves to the good and unbegotten God. We who formerly treasured money and possessions more than anything else now hand everything over to the treasury for all, and share it with everyone who needs. We who formerly cheated and murdered one another and did not even share our home with those who were different or from a different tribe, because of their customs, now, after Christ's appearance, live together and share the same table. Now we pray for our enemies and try to win who hate us unjustly so that they too may live in accordance with Christ's wonderful teachings, that they too might enter into the expectation.

name 5 good things the AMISH have done for this country?

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

What does having doing something good for the country have to do with the argument over islam?

As far as I'm concerned, islam's worst traits (as described in the koran) are no worse than christian dogma. ALL religions want only 1 thing. Same thing the borg wanted- assimilate or die, resistance is futile.

Don't the christians proclaim that the meek shall inherit the earth? Don't they truly believe they are such? They clearly don't see muslims as meek. Nor anyone else.

This really is a stupid thread and discussion

People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody.

I'm thinking of that french word, that best describes you...what is that word..um ...oh yeah...bourgeois ...emphasis on 'tendancy to lean toward mediocraty" By your own admission, you have reaffirmed what we suspected all along...That you are self serving and basically useless: "People can live in peace and QUIET and not feel the need to do anything for anybody. "
Gosh Kramer... The thread isn't stupid...But maybe you are... I mean, perhaps the next muslim marathon bomber will steam-roll your pot-smoking ass... as you 'quietly lay there believing you live in peace. Good Gawd Kramer!

Spoken like a true hardcore extremist.

This man is THE CHAMPION of your cause.
You should name your new band The Texas Templars

This coming from a korean dictator potater look alike

You f u ckers cant even drum up a list of 5 GOOD Things That ISLAMISTs have ever done for the USA ?

OKay...Can you give us Three (3)... How about it Vinny?