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#212407 by J-HALEY
Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:13 pm
Everytime there is a terrorist attack of somekind the left starts blaming the right. Why is that? It usually starts with the left leaning media. IMO about 90% of the news sources in this country are left leaning. Here is a classic example....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn_L43Syjg4

How does that crow taste CNN? 100% of the time they are wrong. You people still say that the media is unbiased, well I disagree. The terrorist bombings in Boston are now known to be done by Chechnian nationals and I believe they will be proven to be muslim with Al Queda links! Thats just my opinion but we will see how it turns out.

#212410 by Jahva
Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:56 pm
Jeff the reference is not to the American Right Winged political party. And I've never heard anyone try to tie the two together. He initially uses the word "Extremist" I would consider that is what he is refereing to throughout his report.
Right winged extremists or terrorism has been a phrase used since the 80's I believe. But has nothing to do with Right winged politics.
It's just a name.
But I know how you guys like to do battle here so...
enjoy!

Right winged because they all sat on the right side. :P

#212413 by J-HALEY
Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:42 pm
Jahva wrote:Jeff the reference is not to the American Right Winged political party. And I've never heard anyone try to tie the two together. He initially uses the word "Extremist" I would consider that is what he is refereing to throughout his report.
Right winged extremists or terrorism has been a phrase used since the 80's I believe. But has nothing to do with Right winged politics.
It's just a name.
But I know how you guys like to do battle here so...
enjoy!

Right winged because they all sat on the right side. :P


Jahva, come on man Really? All I hear on the news is how the right, tea baggers, right wing extremist the left LOVES to group them all together in a BLATANT attempt to demonize. I am not trying to start anything and I am not mad. Just trying to state my point. Afterall we can still do that in this country Right? :)

#212418 by jimmydanger
Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:22 pm
People who hate are always so surprised when other people hate them.

#212420 by Jahva
Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:26 pm
Well I guess you could reconsider where you get your news.
You choose to watch CNN... your choice. Believeing they have an agenda and then spending any time tuned in to them... ok. Is that some twisted exercise in freedom? :P

#212421 by jimmydanger
Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:28 pm
I watch Fox as much as CNN because I like to laugh, and you should always know what the other side is thinking. In this case, not much.

#212442 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:52 pm
Jahva wrote:Jeff the reference is not to the American Right Winged political party. And I've never heard anyone try to tie the two together. He initially uses the word "Extremist" I would consider that is what he is refereing to throughout his report.
Right winged extremists or terrorism has been a phrase used since the 80's I believe. But has nothing to do with Right winged politics.
It's just a name.
But I know how you guys like to do battle here so...
enjoy!

Right winged because they all sat on the right side. :P





Jeff's point is extremely valid. The way the media is portraying anyone who is conservative is not much different than how the nazis portrayed Jews in 1930s Germany. Somehow "we" are the problem because we oppose the destruction of personal liberty while supporting personal responsibility.

They lump us all in with "extremists" because we are extremely opposed to their agenda of destroying America with their lies and deception.

They act as if defending the 2nd Amendment or the life of innocent babies makes one an "extremist" (though both are guaranteed by the Constitution - how radically extreme!?!), yet ignore the actions of true extremists like OWS or the doctor of death being tried in Philadelphia who has literally murdered many babies that were born in his abortion mill.

It's obvious for anyone with eyes to see. We are being demonized in the public media for a decidedly non-american agenda.



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#212453 by Slacker G
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:13 pm
I do not trust a single fact being reported by this liberal lying "news" media. There is a big cover up going on. the whole "news" story is just that... a story made up to protect things that this lawless administration is doing.

#212459 by Jahva
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:43 pm
Both sides throw stones... and have their news machines rolling 24/7.
You are being demonized to who.... the Dems. the CNN audience...
I don't think they're converting anyone just feeding their existing audience.

#212463 by Kramerguy
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:58 pm
what I find interesting is how that comment, while dumb, is laughable, and pales in comparison to stuff said on fox news about "liberals" all day every day...

But even then.. what's wrong with saying "right wing extremist"? There have been violent acts committed by those exact people. If left-wing extremists were know to commit violent acts, then they would be addressed as such also.

But why would a right-winger take offense at "right wing extremist"??

Do muslims take offense at "mulsim extremists"? Actually they do.. they take great offense AT those who claim allegiance to the muslim community, which is otherwise peaceful.

Do christians take offense at the use of "christian fundamentalists"? Nope, because it's not christians anyone is referring to, it's the posers who use their name to commit acts of violence. Same goes with the right wing.

Sorry, jeff, but stop crying like a girl and man up, it's not a big deal.

#212485 by Slacker G
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:20 pm
For those wo have a short memory of history. The Nazis began to publish cartoons of Jews making them look like complete idiots. Then the Nazis began a campaign against how the Jews were trying to ruin Germany, then they began to demonize them for even being alive and referred to them as an inferior life forms.

When the people were brainwashed through the demonizing of the Jews, they also called for their officials to rid Germany of them. So they put them in ghettos. When the time was ripe, then at that time came the internment camps and the trains shipping them off to the death camps.

So you do not find the demonizing of those who love this land as a constitutional republic and the constant demonizing of Christians disturbing? Understandably the German people didn't think the demonization of the Jews by the Nazis troublesome either.

#212487 by jimmydanger
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:23 pm
If you need to invoke anything Nazi to get your point across there's a good chance your point is invalid.

#212491 by Kramerguy
Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:59 pm
Slacker G wrote:For those wo have a short memory of history. The Nazis began to publish cartoons of Jews making them look like complete idiots. Then the Nazis began a campaign against how the Jews were trying to ruin Germany, then they began to demonize them for even being alive and referred to them as an inferior life forms.

When the people were brainwashed through the demonizing of the Jews, they also called for their officials to rid Germany of them. So they put them in ghettos. When the time was ripe, then at that time came the internment camps and the trains shipping them off to the death camps.

So you do not find the demonizing of those who love this land as a constitutional republic and the constant demonizing of Christians disturbing? Understandably the German people didn't think the demonization of the Jews by the Nazis troublesome either.


Yet people think it's ok to demonize liberals.. just not right wingers.. A bit contradictory isn't it?

#212493 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:17 pm
Kramerguy wrote:what I find interesting is how that comment, while dumb, is laughable, and pales in comparison to stuff said on fox news about "liberals" all day every day...

But even then.. what's wrong with saying "right wing extremist"? There have been violent acts committed by those exact people. If left-wing extremists were know to commit violent acts, then they would be addressed as such also.

But why would a right-winger take offense at "right wing extremist"??




It's a fair question....but have you ever heard of a left-wing extremist? They surround you....

Left-wing extremists are ALL that the Democrat Party has nominated as their candidate since Kennedy died. Has the left-wing extremist media informed you that Obama entered politics as the candidate of the Socialist Party? They don't get more left-wing extremist than that!?!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Obama-Caught-Lying-Again-He-WAS-Member-of-New-Party-Says-Kurtz


Left-wing extremists run the Senate and own much of the Judicial. They are the mainstream media, and polls have shown that upwards of 91% of all employed journalists support these left-wing extremists.

But show me where they have been demonized, marginalized, or even just ridiculed once. You can't do it, because it is the left-wing extremists who apply the term "extremist" to anyone who opposes them on a strictly intellectual level.

What is the goal of news and news-talk programs broadcasting nonprofessional, non-educated opinions about the nature of the bomber(s) being "right-wing extremists" when there is absolutely no evidence of that? They have presumed that scenario on EVERY mass murder that has happened since Obama was elected (right on cue!) and are yet to be correct...but it doesn't stop them; even though we consistently find out the shooters are left-leaning if anything.

It's no secret that Janet Napolean-tano has redefined the term "terrorist", now that Obama won't use it on anyone with a muslim background. Oh no, instead they place a target square on christians who vote GOP.

Do you find it interesting that ALL of the people this Administration has labeled "terrorist" or "extremist" are people who vote GOP? That ought to tell you something about the would-be dictators you support when you vote for these left-wing extremists that have usurped the once-proudly American Democrat Party.





Do muslims take offense at "mulsim extremists"? Actually they do.. they take great offense AT those who claim allegiance to the muslim community, which is otherwise peaceful.


That statement shows a lack of understanding of the problem. It's another thread, but basically the seeds of hatred are sown into the Koran and it only takes the right person to water them.

Unlike the Bible, the Koran does teach hatred and murder to expand the kingdom of Islam. The very word "islam" means submission!?!

Unlearned people are constantly taking the bible out of context to promote a godless agenda (including televangelists, christian cults, media, atheists, homosexual groups, satanists, etc) but you don't have to take the Quran out of context.

Have you ever read it? It's a jumbled collection of plagurized passages from various religious books mixed with the ravings of a man that married a 6 year old girl. It doesn't make sense in a literal way whatsoever, and yet islamic "fundamentalists" read it as a literal document.

A christian/jewish fundamentalist is someone who reads the bible as a literal document, and that is not unreasonable since it contains so much history and literal observation of factual events. But the biggest difference is that allah demands his subject to die for him, while YHVH sent His Son to die for us.






Do christians take offense at the use of "christian fundamentalists"?


ABSOLUTELY!!

It's almost always used:

1. Refering to people who aren't practicing a christian lifestyle as defined by Jesus (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you), and are therefore not even "christian". Like Westboro Baptist for example.

2. As a hammer to ridicule all christians

3. As propaganda to deflect attention from wickedness

4. To portray christians as violent unreasonable radicals; as if christians & jews who are fundamentalist in theological practice are comparable to muslims fundamentalists.



I could come up with more reasons if I spent a minute to think about it, but the term "fundamentalist christian" is used in an intellectually dishonest way 95% of the time.

How many times have you seen anyone labeled a fundamentalist liberal? No, it is meant to be derogatory in most usages.
Last edited by t-Roy and The Smoking Section on Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:44 am, edited 2 times in total.

#212496 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:11 pm
yod wrote:
Kramerguy wrote:what I find interesting is how that comment, while dumb, is laughable, and pales in comparison to stuff said on fox news about "liberals" all day every day...

But even then.. what's wrong with saying "right wing extremist"? There have been violent acts committed by those exact people. If left-wing extremists were know to commit violent acts, then they would be addressed as such also.

But why would a right-winger take offense at "right wing extremist"??




It's a fair question....but have you ever heard of a left-wing extremist? They surround you....

Left-wing extremists are ALL that the Democrat Party has nominated as their candidate since Kennedy died. Has the left-wing extremist media informed you that Obama entered politics as the candidate of the Socialist Party? They don't get more left-wing extremist than that!?!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Obama-Caught-Lying-Again-He-WAS-Member-of-New-Party-Says-Kurtz


Left-wing extremists run the Senate and own much of the Judicial. They are the mainstream media, and polls have shown that upwards of 91% of all employed journalists support these left-wing extremists.

But show me where they have been demonized, marginalized, or even just ridiculed once. You can't do it, because it is the left-wing extremists who apply the term "extremist" to anyone who opposes them on a strictly intellectual level.

What is the goal of news and news-talk programs broadcasting nonprofessional, non-educated opinions about the nature of the bomber(s) being "right-wing extremists" when there is absolutely no evidence of that? They have presumed that on EVERY mass murder that has happened since Obama and are yet to be correct...but it doesn't stop them; even though we consistently find out the shooters are left-leaning if anything.

It's no secret that Janet Napolean-tano has redefined the term "terrorist", now that Obama won't use it on anyone with a muslim background. Oh no, instead they place a target square on christians who vote GOP.

Do you find it interesting that ALL of the people this Administration has labeled "terrorist" or "extremist" are people who vote GOP? That ought to tell you something about the would-be dictators you support when you vote for these left-wing extremists that have usurped the once-proudly American Democrat Party.





Do muslims take offense at "mulsim extremists"? Actually they do.. they take great offense AT those who claim allegiance to the muslim community, which is otherwise peaceful.


That statement shows a lack of understanding of the problem. It's another thread, but basically the seeds of hatred are sown into the Koran and it only takes the right person to water them.

Unlike the Bible, the Koran does teach hatred and murder to expand the kingdom of Islam. The very word "islam" means submission!?!

Unlearned people are constantly taking the bible out of context to promote a godless agenda (including christian cults, media, atheists, homosexual groups, satanists, etc) but you don't have to take the Quran out of context.

Have you ever read it? It's a jumbled collection of plagurized passages from various religious books mixed with the ravings of a mad-man that married a 6 year old girl. It doesn't make sense in a literal way whatsoever, and yet islamic "fundamentalists" read it as a literal document.

A christian/jewish fundamentalist is someone who reads the bible as a literal document, and that is not unreasonable since it contains so much history and literal observation of factual events. But the biggest difference is that allah demands his subject to die for him, while YHVH sent His Son to die for us.






Do christians take offense at the use of "christian fundamentalists"?


ABSOLUTELY!!

It's almost always used:

1. Refering to people who aren't practicing a christian lifestyle as defined by Jesus (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you), and are therefore not even "christian". Like Westboro Baptist for example.

2. As a hammer to ridicule all christians

3. As propaganda to deflect attention from wickedness

4. To portray christians as violent unreasonable radicals; as if christians & jews who are fundamentalist in theological practice are comparable to muslims fundamentalists.



I could come up with more reasons if I spent a minute to think about it, but the term "fundamentalist christian" is used in an intellectually dishonest way 95% of the time.

How many times have you seen anyone labeled a fundamentalist liberal? No, it is meant to be derogatory in most usages.


Thank you YOD!

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