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#186920 by 1collaborator
Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:33 am
George I heard you saying you were doing some upgrade or remodeling to your shed , is it possible something youve done has amplified your sound outside the bldg ? Ask around the neiborhood and see if everyone is noticing a difference. I like it loud , but sometimes its good to be able to turn it down and still sound great. That itself can take a lot of practice as a band....I'm no expert , but theres my 2 cents...

#186936 by gbheil
Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:52 am
1collaborator wrote:George I heard you saying you were doing some upgrade or remodeling to your shed , is it possible something youve done has amplified your sound outside the bldg ? Ask around the neiborhood and see if everyone is noticing a difference. I like it loud , but sometimes its good to be able to turn it down and still sound great. That itself can take a lot of practice as a band....I'm no expert , but theres my 2 cents...


Yes, I have no doubt that not only the partially completed modifications as well as the arrangement of amps / monitors have contributed some.

Tonight we closed the doors, we turned it down, and still got complaints.
Seriously, someone is just being an ass, because we were not nearly as loud as we have been in the past.

We had a good visit with the Constable whom came out tonight. Hopefully we have come to an agreement.
It won't stop the complaining I believe, because like I said, it's just someone being an ass. And now the "law" has empowered them to be a bigger ass.

Honestly if any of you had stood outside the shop tonight you'd be saying WTF ? Someone is just being an ass.

I'm very frustrated with the situation:

#186941 by PaperDog
Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:34 am
sanshouheil wrote:
1collaborator wrote:George I heard you saying you were doing some upgrade or remodeling to your shed , is it possible something youve done has amplified your sound outside the bldg ? Ask around the neiborhood and see if everyone is noticing a difference. I like it loud , but sometimes its good to be able to turn it down and still sound great. That itself can take a lot of practice as a band....I'm no expert , but theres my 2 cents...


Yes, I have no doubt that not only the partially completed modifications as well as the arrangement of amps / monitors have contributed some.

Tonight we closed the doors, we turned it down, and still got complaints.
Seriously, someone is just being an ass, because we were not nearly as loud as we have been in the past.

We had a good visit with the Constable whom came out tonight. Hopefully we have come to an agreement.
It won't stop the complaining I believe, because like I said, it's just someone being an ass. And now the "law" has empowered them to be a bigger ass.

Honestly if any of you had stood outside the shop tonight you'd be saying WTF ? Someone is just being an ass.

I'm very frustrated with the situation:


If you guys are inside the shop, I wonder if facing the equipment away from the current direction might make a difference... Maybe throw up a barrier or something... toward the source of complaints...

#186952 by Starfish Scott
Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:15 pm
I bet it's that jackass neighbor ....

Same sob, I'll bet.

#186966 by GuitarMikeB
Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:51 pm
The town must have noise ordinances on the books - 'so many decibels at so many feet from the structure' as well as possible time limits on it. I suggest you investigate further or you are just going to keep getting visits every practice. Know your rights!

#186971 by DainNobody
Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:06 pm
I think your next logical step would be applying egg cartons to the inside walls for soundproofing or if you can afford it "acoustic texture boards/panels"

#186973 by DainNobody
Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:12 pm
the acoustic texture is spread with a machine in wet paste like form with a machine you can rent at your nearest rental place and you buy the "texture" in a 5 gallon bucket among other forms.. egg cartons are much cheaper and work every bit as good..

#187020 by 1collaborator
Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:32 am
We used some old acoustic ceilimg tile in one of our practice shops . Got it when they were doing some remodeling at a office . Works great easy to put up and it was free

#187150 by gbheil
Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:41 pm
When the shop modifications are completed I doubt it will be an issue.

What is an issue is the wife and I are having to save up some money first.

We are not in the City. We are in the county. There is no ordnance so it's purely subjective. Someone complains and the county sheriff has to arbitrate.
Fortunately the Constable seemed quite amiable to our side of the situation.

#187165 by J-HALEY
Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:32 am
sanshouheil wrote:When the shop modifications are completed I doubt it will be an issue.

What is an issue is the wife and I are having to save up some money first.

We are not in the City. We are in the county. There is no ordnance so it's purely subjective. Someone complains and the county sheriff has to arbitrate.
Fortunately the Constable seemed quite amiable to our side of the situation.


George, as a carpenter I have used a product called Home-A-Soat for soundproofing around elevator shafts (where an office is built up against) it is approx. $25.00 a 4'x8' sheet. It is made of paper and I have even used it instead of sheetrock it's lighter too. When I had my remodeling business I built a soundproof music room inside a guy's garage. It cuts the sound volume down at least 50%. Ceiling tiles work great too. I have used those just like No.1 did for a band rehearsal room back in the 80's.

#187187 by MikeTalbot
Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:15 am
Mr. Haley

I've got some sheets of something called Quiet Brace which are the size of sheetrock. I'm having the movers take them to my new home where I'm renting and won't have a stand alone rehearsal studio. I figure to at least lean them against the walls in the basement room I choose for that. (perhaps some frames could be built?)

My wife sadly gave me the heave ho. Can't blame her. But the music must go on and I've found for practice at home I need my amp (Mustang V / Marshall 4x12) set on 3 to get the sort of edge I need for the sound I want. Not terribly loud but I need to baffle it for the neighbor's sake.

Sadly, I don't see any more jam or prac sessions in my space. Currently we rehearse in another guy's studio so ok for now.

An interesting factoid - the big amp sounds better at low volumes than my G-dec prac amp. I'm assuming the combination of master volume and more speaker depth are the reasons.

Talbot

#187203 by GuitarMikeB
Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:37 pm
Sorry for the split, Mike T - keep on rocking. Probably a good source for lots of new tunes.

#187227 by J-HALEY
Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:31 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Mr. Haley

I've got some sheets of something called Quiet Brace which are the size of sheetrock. I'm having the movers take them to my new home where I'm renting and won't have a stand alone rehearsal studio. I figure to at least lean them against the walls in the basement room I choose for that. (perhaps some frames could be built?)

My wife sadly gave me the heave ho. Can't blame her. But the music must go on and I've found for practice at home I need my amp (Mustang V / Marshall 4x12) set on 3 to get the sort of edge I need for the sound I want. Not terribly loud but I need to baffle it for the neighbor's sake.

Sadly, I don't see any more jam or prac sessions in my space. Currently we rehearse in another guy's studio so ok for now.

An interesting factoid - the big amp sounds better at low volumes than my G-dec prac amp. I'm assuming the combination of master volume and more speaker depth are the reasons.

Talbot


Mike, it sounds like what you have is fiber-brace. is it black and has a oily smell?

#187252 by MikeTalbot
Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:52 pm
Mr Haley - black and oily smell - yep.

I hope it's enough - it's a nice large house but neighbors are a bit close and I'm on a hill atop a cul de sac. Don't want to serenade everyone!

I'm open to any suggestions on soundproofing.

Dane - you mentioned egg cartons - I eat my eggs at Waffle House! Where would I get some?

Talbot

#187254 by gbheil
Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:06 am
I constructed a two foot square box frame and lined it with carpet.
I intend to put my MARSHALL CASS 5 amp inside it as a muffler.
Our bassist feel it may cause some feed back issues into the mic.
I'll try it out tomorrow.
Tonight I'm going to relax with my ol lady and have a few drinks.


Mike.

I'm sorry to hear about your split.
Jeanette and I were separated for about a year.
Seems she did not like my girlfriend much.
I kid about it only a little, was the lowest point of my whole life.

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