General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

I apologize vamp for losing my temper with you once, I said a mean thing to you, it was related to taxes and the role taxes play in keeping the country's infrastructure strong.. if you feel the need to not pay taxes, then who am I casting judgement?.. at least you don't keep your millions offshore like a presidential candidate I am thinking of does, and also when Obama's secretary pays a higher tax rate than Obama, there is something wrong with this country..I think of the parable of the widow's mite....

...Haley I thank you for your compliments. Krammer is alright I feel. He merely voices his opinion ... which he is not afraid of doing. We can all respect that. Because you have lived, worked, played and socialized where you have ... in the thick of it ... then you can speak with more authority than those who have not. What you have stated regarding how it amazes you that you both watch the same video yet each has such differing veiws ...has great relevance. Many people throughout history have died for what they were led purposefully to believe was "Truth" but in fact was not.

Yes I know that the video referred to the Mexican Government but also as you stated that they in turn recieve them from the US government. Everything is related and can be proven so if one takes the time and is able to look deeply enough for the Truth. What Krammer states has great relevance in that he is intelligent and forms his own thoughts. I think that the real disparity exists if how much is known with respect to how much is not known or considered. One should think about what he states even if not in agreement but most certainly if initially in disagreement. I do not agree with all his views either but respect them as I sense that you do as well.

Irony ... my GrandMother said that "before anyone talks about "irony" they should do a lot of ironing of someone else's clothes so they know what they are talking about". It is easy to use vague terminologies to attempt to negate valid honest viewpoints ... I have done that many times I admit. But ... regarding gun ownership then those who own guns, grew up with them, use them as tools and have them as an integral part of their lives can in fact speak with more authority than those who do not. This is a simple yet indisputable fact that can be applied to anything. Of course the NRA as does anything, has it's negative aspects. Assault Rifles and pistols ... OVERTON WINDOW. It is blatantly obvious now that the "entity" masquerading as government means to disarm the citizens of the USA asap. This also is a fact which has nothing to do with the democrats or republicans which are only paper distractions to the real image.

Very soon now if one refuses to do what they are told then they will be deemed psychotic and infirm or a danger and dealt with ... medicated ... re-educated...or simple death. Why is the government who is "for the people" massing hollowpoints ? Why are they training for gun confiscation, riots and "terrorist" attacks ? Could it be CIVIL WAR ??? Wakey wakey.

I thank you also very much for what you have said regarding your first impressions and my thread. This I will always cherish and value greatly. "Stick to your guns Haley"

Vinny ... I thank you for your clever posted graphic from DC. Of course it can be taken many ways which is part of it's "charm". I think that we are all in part at least from beyond the stars. I think that somehow a unique combination of both Truth and Love is mankind's last hope of survival. Also a drill seems better applied than mallet and stake in the case of technology. One can not kill a drone as it flies with such weaponry but a rifle ... absolutely. I encourage you to continue such postings as you do Vinny because they are what I would call "open" in that their interpretation/interpretations are always so very diverse and therefore thought provoking. You have a "gift" for such things Vinny plus you can perturb and disturb with such great efficiency as well.

The time has come to make some bitter choices before one can not make any choice any longer. With this rising Great Evil comes great death. The "execution" of Freedom and Liberty is being perpetrated. Humanity must unite at least in some aspects beyond others lest we all perish.

Ta Live Well Die Well

...Planet Guy ... I thank you for your Post. I suggest only that you speak only for yourself and that is not an insult. I wish very much to clarify although you did get the general expression quite well. Yes we both believe in what we believe and that at times we do differ.

My apology is not meant as back-handed nor is it meant as recognition that "you are correct" or "I am mistaken". This matters not to either of us really but I do apologize for letting myself resort to such insulting diatribe with you. I quite simply realize now that my time and yours for that matter would have been better spent if we did not engage in such as we did. So you are indeed correct in your perception of this. You need not apologize as you were not responsible for my actions and were only reacting to me as I reacted to you. It is like saying something that you know as you say it ... you will regret later.Well I regret the negative things I said about you. You are a good musician and like Quadrophenia ... so what can I say ? I care not rot the "record" as I never have. This Forum has never been a contest for me. I find it vastly interesting at worst. We are all victims of "conditioning" to certain degrees ... Skinner.

I have my meager opinions and you have yours. I do not begrudge you about them ....no mater how stupid and idiotic they are....THIS IS JOKING ... but I think you got that by now. I have agreed with some things you have said on my and others Posts but before I would never admit it and now I will. Normally I would say let us go our own way but I firmly believe that now no matter how different we may each think our paths to be ... they are both going in the same direction ...DOWN.

I have nothing else to say really ... only that I apologize for having said all the nasty things I did that were intended to only aggravate you unfairly. I will no longer do any of this. I ask you to please take this in the Spirit I give it ... no innuendo ... no strings ... I would much rather have you as a fellow musician than as an enemy.

Since we seem to invoke such animosity with one another ... think what we could do if standing beside one another with respect to someone else ? Please feel free to Post your thoughts and opinion anytime on this thread and know that it will be welcomed without fear of insult.

Ta Live Well Die Well

...Dane ... Our anger belies our True feelings, convictions and the strength of such...no problem. Your apology is accepted , appreciated and valued in that it was not really required. I have come to have a fondness for your Posts here and elsewhere because of the aforementioned. You are one of those who are like an iceberg but not because you are cold... because the depth of you runs hidden and is much greater than the small portion ever seen.

What you relate re taxes etc is very well stated.

Ta Live Well Die Well

...PaperDog ... I thank you for your Post and all that you have said. I as well liked you from the beginning and feel we are of the same ilk. We are "The First and the Last" ... which titles which will be my last production and upon which I currently toil.

Time has almost run it's course. We are truly the Last of our kind as are Yod and others here ... some of which do not yet realize this. We are as the Last Dinosaurs of this Age roaming but soon to be hunted and made extinct by those damned tiny marsupials who stare at us from their hiding places with frightened nonunderstanding eyes.

Ta Live Well Die Well

...Planet Guy ... I thank you for your Post. I suggest only that you speak only for yourself and that is not an insult. I wish very much to clarify although you did get the general expression quite well. Yes we both believe in what we believe and that at times we do differ.

My apology is not meant as back-handed nor is it meant as recognition that "you are correct" or "I am mistaken". This matters not to either of us really but I do apologize for letting myself resort to such insulting diatribe with you. I quite simply realize now that my time and yours for that matter would have been better spent if we did not engage in such as we did. So you are indeed correct in your perception of this. You need not apologize as you were not responsible for my actions and were only reacting to me as I reacted to you. It is like saying something that you know as you say it ... you will regret later.Well I regret the negative things I said about you. You are a good musician and like Quadrophenia ... so what can I say ? I care not rot the "record" as I never have. This Forum has never been a contest for me. I find it vastly interesting at worst. We are all victims of "conditioning" to certain degrees ... Skinner.

I have my meager opinions and you have yours. I do not begrudge you about them ....no mater how stupid and idiotic they are....THIS IS JOKING ... but I think you got that by now. I have agreed with some things you have said on my and others Posts but before I would never admit it and now I will. Normally I would say let us go our own way but I firmly believe that now no matter how different we may each think our paths to be ... they are both going in the same direction ...DOWN.

I have nothing else to say really ... only that I apologize for having said all the nasty things I did that were intended to only aggravate you unfairly. I will no longer do any of this. I ask you to please take this in the Spirit I give it ... no innuendo ... no strings ... I would much rather have you as a fellow musician than as an enemy.

Since we seem to invoke such animosity with one another ... think what we could do if standing beside one another with respect to someone else ? Please feel free to Post your thoughts and opinion anytime on this thread and know that it will be welcomed without fear of insult.

Ta Live Well Die Well

now THAT's what i'm talkin' bout!

vamp, thanks for taking the time to frame all that as well you did. it's a two way street (as is often the case) and for whatever reason we just got under each other's skin. i suspect we'll continue to do exactly the same but i am delighted at the prospect of putting aside the nasty swipes and petty attacks that no one wins.

and if you don't mind me going off point (maybe not all that much) i'll again extend my previous invitation to glen of putting the BS and attacks aside. i hope he'll consider it but i'm not too optimistic about it.

there's always plenty to disagree with when it comes to expressing opinions on matters as weighty as politics, religion, music, etc...esp when these are being discussed in a forum such as this. but how we disagree says much about our character.

i strongly believe that even some of the most contentious and ugly disagreements between complete polar opposites here on BandMixItUp would never rise to level of meaness, namecalling, and vitriol that they do if the combatants were instead sitting across the table from one another knocking back a brew or three.

i do have to disagree w you here on one point. your contention that
"no matter how different we may each think our paths to be ... they are both going in the same direction ...DOWN."

well, then i'm gonna have to say we ARE on different paths..... by no means am i some starry eyed naive optimist sitting around a campfire singing Cumbaya, but i don't see my path (or this country's, or mankind's) as "going down". quite the contrary.

thanks again. and i'd be remiss if i didn't offer up my apology for playing my part in this silly turf war. it's my hope you'll accept it and i'm confident you will.

straight ahead.

...Planet Guy ...I thank you for your reply and your understanding. It is a two way street as you stated.

Regarding Glenn ... I like and respect Glenn. He has his own agenda and "take" on things and most of all his own method. It is a bit difficult for some to take, others to witness and still more to understand ... but there is great method to his madness I believe. If one is honest with him and meets him truly halfway then he will do the same. He is not as simplistic as one may think ... I myself was guilty of this in the beginning. There can be no conditions with him ... and I support him in whatever he states because he does the same for myself. It was difficult and a bit messy but we reached an understanding. And as you have so well stated it is a two way Street. The only advice I can give you in this regard aside from what I have already stated is try looking at yourself and then your exchange with him from a distance and be as open minded as one can be in such a circumstance ... it is not eight or wrong it merely is ... and if one can accept that then the rest seemed to fall into place ... at least for me it did. Thinking outside one's own parameters and that of accepted norm (the box). I wish you good luck in this should you decide to make your best and most genuine effort.

I did somewhat prattle did I not ? Regarding our Paths... I ask you if you are familiar with Fukushima and it's ramifications...not just the main stream media circus ? This is the best example I can think of in that it is the worst and most threatening with respect to our Paths and indeed everyone else's. I should like to know your thoughts on this sincerely ... not to disagree flagrantly but just as another perspective which may or not be discussed further.

Ta Live Well Gie Well

A thing of beauty is a joy forever

handguns are kind of a sleeper...................

http://youtu.be/46GBjlUOROY

http://youtu.be/uplMgB3tnXE

handguns are kind of a sleeper...................

http://youtu.be/46GBjlUOROY

http://youtu.be/uplMgB3tnXE

Nice video I just don't see a nuclear weapons components surviving the
concussion of being shot out of a cannon with success!

JCP

Where I can get one of those? Hope they are reasonably priced!

Talbot

handguns are kind of a sleeper...................

http://youtu.be/46GBjlUOROY

http://youtu.be/uplMgB3tnXE

Nice video I just don't see a nuclear weapons components surviving the
concussion of being shot out of a cannon with success!

you're kidding me, right?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Upshot-Knothole

JCP

Where I can get one of those? Hope they are reasonably priced!

Talbot

i can tell you where to get one,
but I won't make any claims about the price.

Vamp I'm looking at a marathon in Phoenix,
at Xmas I'll have the details soon. Getting it
off the runners forum.

I have been anti - nuclear power (and bombs) since the early 80's ... because it is totally irresponsible as they still have not even figured out a realistic strategy for dealing with the spent radioactive waste.

Something like Fukushima always just seemed to be a matter of time, it is more surprising that a disaster this size hasn't happened much sooner. The way the Japanese gov handles the still unfolding disaster is very suspicious. I don't plan to drink any more sencha in this lifetime.

Hopefully we have not yet arrived at the age of tectonic weaponry.