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#167767 by Christopher Holmes
Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:30 pm
GLEN J wrote:
That's the sorriest thing I've seen you post. Congressman Sessions was pointing out the same thing I was. He was asking by what authority does Mr Panneta have to usurp the power of congress and the general will of the people and even worse OUR CONSTITUTION as a basis for All the law of the land. Chris it is time for you to start thinking before you just start talking.


I do plenty of thinking. Thanks.

As I pointed out in MY post, The people of the United States of AMERICA are not to be led by Nato, the UN or any other asshole coalition. Now you go look at that video again. :evil:


Dude... You're not getting it.

We can't afford to sit back anymore and act like we're alone on this planet.

If you are going to be a member of a coalition or a joint-force or be a participating member in something such as NATO, then you MUST be a TEAM PLAYER when decisions are made. You can't just make unilateral decisions that go against the will of the committee because your own congress decided it holds all the power. It just won't work.

I mean, have any of you been on a team before? This is basic stuff.

That's what Panneta was trying to point out. There's a big difference between a foreign nation attacking us and the USA joining forces with other countries to try and deal with issues as a team.

If we're attacked, then sure - the President and Congress will determine if we're going to war against whoever attacked us. We're not going to wait for "permission" from ANY entity to defend ourselves. And Panneta said that! What more assurance do you want that we're going to follow the law to protect ourselves?

But that's not what this particular discussion was about.

They were discussion a joint action against a foreign nation - one in which we are only one player among many. A team. We don't get to make unilateral decisions. We SHOULD NOT make unilateral decisions in that situation.

Sessions was attempting to take America's laws and rules for declaring war and say that these laws and rules override EVERYTHING.

But that's just stupid. That's a giant middle finger to the rest of the world that we are trying to work with! It's like setting up for a show and doing sound check and then cranking your amp to 10 and telling the rest of the band, "F*ck you, I'm turning it up as loud as I want, and I don't care what you think; I make my decisions regardless of your input."

You just can't do that...

We're not the only players in this game. I think Sessions needs to be aware of that. No one is saying we're going to bow to NATO if America's interests are threatened.

But we are saying - in a team situation, we need to be team players.

#167768 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:51 pm
Obviously Chris you have no respect for the LAW OF OUR COUNTRY and it's pissant liberals like you that keep asking America to bend over and take it.
You keep trying to erode the very rules that actually have kept the whole world stabile.
This whole thing with the Fluke woman was not about contraceptives, it was about the erosion of constitution. Separation of church and state. Remember that one?
As for you you are a dirty dog double dealer for using my mix on your other sites without any credit. WANT ME TO PROVE IT!.

America does NOT need people like you, LEAVE, go to Europe where you can suck up to every little hitler that comes along.

Get out my face, and just get out, you commie pig liberal! Please take everyone that thinks like you with you. Have a nice day, go Fluck a friends,,,wife. :)

#167771 by AirViking
Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:30 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Clause

Read this article and you will find that Congress is the peaceful option.
They have only declared 5 wars.

List of nations/political/terrorist groups fought
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... ted_States

Christopher Holmes, (just to play devil's advocate)
When was the last time we WERE alone in the world?
Can't we be part of trade groups and human rights groups without killing everyone?

#167773 by Starfish Scott
Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:17 pm
RIP Christopher Holmes, started 1 war today.. LOL

#167778 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:00 pm
Sort of like an "INVISIBLE LIGHT" :)

I like that song Capt. :lol:

#167782 by Starfish Scott
Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:28 pm
GLEN J wrote:Sort of like an "INVISIBLE LIGHT" :)

I like that song Capt. :lol:


Heeeeyy, that's not cool. I am trying to let this wear out, not to make the fire burn hotter.

And I never knew any of that was going to happen.
Probably wouldn't have posted if I had knew it was going to.

That's ok, I got a listen to the next tune today.

(Eccchhhh, some real magic will have to happen to make "MINT" even smell remotely minty, right now it smells like train tar and railroad ties, with a shitty vocal track. (whimper) lol)

#167791 by gtZip
Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:35 am
I dont believe in teams.
Cooperation is fine, but I'm not down with the notion of having to do certain things because I'm beholden to a team.

F off.
There's no 'I' in team, I know...
But there is a 'M' 'E'.

The U.N., are their like, are ridiculous.

#167793 by MikeTalbot
Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:07 am
The world is on a hair trigger right now because we part of so many wonderful teams.

Are you prepared to sacrifice your kids because Russia attacks Poland or Lithiwania (sp)?

I'm not. But the Brits and French were in 1939 and look who it benefitted: No body!

Let the Euros play war if they wish to. Our govt's job is to protect the US and they are NOT doing that. Somebody could run an armoured div arcross our southern border and those shitheads wouldn't care. More realistically is somebody will almost certainly deliver a prize package sooner rather than later and kill a lot of Americans.

WHich is just what those pigs want - they'll use that as an excuse to smother what little freedom remains.

They are miscreants and cannot be trusted. They should be jailed. All of them. And all those dreadful treaties revoked!

Talbot

#167824 by Tennessee Jedi
Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:39 pm
GLEN J wrote:Obviously Chris you have no respect for the LAW OF OUR COUNTRY and it's pissant liberals like you that keep asking America to bend over and take it.
You keep trying to erode the very rules that actually have kept the whole world stabile.
This whole thing with the Fluke woman was not about contraceptives, it was about the erosion of constitution. Separation of church and state. Remember that one?
As for you you are a dirty dog double dealer for using my mix on your other sites without any credit. WANT ME TO PROVE IT!.

America does NOT need people like you, LEAVE, go to Europe where you can suck up to every little hitler that comes along.

Get out my face, and just get out, you commie pig liberal! Please take everyone that thinks like you with you. Have a nice day, go Fluck a friends,,,wife. :)

Who cares about your moral outrage when the church is as immoral as they come.
The F'ing church aint got a problem with its culture of pedophilia. Look how they have covered it up.
I think if you can look the other way on that then condoms shouldn't be a big issue.
What a rhetorical piece of turd muffin you wrote
The F'ing Pope wore a Hitler Youth uniform ... but hey he is your Nazi.
You seem to diss Europe but have no problem with a one time member of the Hitler Youth giving orders to Americans from his throne in Italy.
Every insurance plan covers the disputed parts.ONLY the Church - based in Europe is crying foul. You are a blind puppet.
LOL
Maybe YOU should move to Europe to be with your buddies !

#167825 by Starfish Scott
Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:55 pm
lol Well that made a nice BOOM sound when it hit the target...

Kinda reminiscent of WW1..
#167829 by Vampier
Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:35 pm
AirViking...good post. It seems it is like trying to speak upon philosophical issues to a kind of Kindergarten in a "home" for musicians here. There is a very "common" herd of ego fueled "musicians" who trot from one direction to the other ... obviously confused, unhappy and out of touch with the reality around them. Some do not pretend however...the Paperdog is one and Etu is another, but others seem to prowl the posts beating their puny chests while exercising their large mouths with puny brains in command. It is upsetting for them to think or concieve of a nonmusical post and all the requirements it brings with it. Do not be discouraged for it is like becoming angry at mosquitoes as they swarm about you. My wife and I have become amused as they misapply their newly acquired "goggle" knowledge and proudly pontificate. They are a plague which come with the territory of posting here. Existing in their obvious stupor, afraid to upset what they somehow percieve as their position and secretly terrified that the curtain of the internet be lifted to reveal who they really are and their failed miserable and unhappy lives. Some are even frightened to show pictures of themselves while most flip flop in response to the other's postings. It is tragic, amusing and a grim example of exactly how "unawake" they are as they thrash about entombed in their ignorance. But there are some who are vastly superior to others in both thought and musical ability. But modern technology has allowed the pretenders to don the robe of the musician as they sample, loop and edit their drool "creations". The are like little Igors running about in a childcare castle without a Frankenstein to serve. They need attention and Love but no one cares. Soon they will fade into the oblivion of the web of reality that is being spun about them. Take heart and do not give in to their "noise". There are some who listen and they more often than not are silent. Ta
#167830 by J-HALEY
Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:47 pm
Vampier wrote:AirViking...good post. It seems it is like trying to speak upon philosophical issues to a kind of Kindergarten in a "home" for musicians here. There is a very "common" herd of ego fueled "musicians" who trot from one direction to the other ... obviously confused, unhappy and out of touch with the reality around them. Some do not pretend however...the Paperdog is one and Etu is another, but others seem to prowl the posts beating their puny chests while exercising their large mouths with puny brains in command. It is upsetting for them to think or concieve of a nonmusical post and all the requirements it brings with it. Do not be discouraged for it is like becoming angry at mosquitoes as they swarm about you. My wife and I have become amused as they misapply their newly acquired "goggle" knowledge and proudly pontificate. They are a plague which come with the territory of posting here. Existing in their obvious stupor, afraid to upset what they somehow percieve as their position and secretly terrified that the curtain of the internet be lifted to reveal who they really are and their failed miserable and unhappy lives. Some are even frightened to show pictures of themselves while most flip flop in response to the other's postings. It is tragic, amusing and a grim example of exactly how "unawake" they are as they thrash about entombed in their ignorance. But there are some who are vastly superior to others in both thought and musical ability. But modern technology has allowed the pretenders to don the robe of the musician as they sample, loop and edit their drool "creations". The are like little Igors running about in a childcare castle without a Frankenstein to serve. They need attention and Love but no one cares. Soon they will fade into the oblivion of the web of reality that is being spun about them. Take heart and do not give in to their "noise". There are some who listen and they more often than not are silent. Ta


Whew! I had to read this very carefully (beating chest, making grunting noises) LOL! I'm a redneck what can I say? Vampier are you a professional writer? DAMN that was GOOD! :wink:
#167831 by Tennessee Jedi
Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:53 pm
Vampier wrote:AirViking...good post. It seems it is like trying to speak upon philosophical issues to a kind of Kindergarten in a "home" for musicians here. There is a very "common" herd of ego fueled "musicians" who trot from one direction to the other ... obviously confused, unhappy and out of touch with the reality around them. Some do not pretend however...the Paperdog is one and Etu is another, but others seem to prowl the posts beating their puny chests while exercising their large mouths with puny brains in command. It is upsetting for them to think or concieve of a nonmusical post and all the requirements it brings with it. Do not be discouraged for it is like becoming angry at mosquitoes as they swarm about you. My wife and I have become amused as they misapply their newly acquired "goggle" knowledge and proudly pontificate. They are a plague which come with the territory of posting here. Existing in their obvious stupor, afraid to upset what they somehow percieve as their position and secretly terrified that the curtain of the internet be lifted to reveal who they really are and their failed miserable and unhappy lives. Some are even frightened to show pictures of themselves while most flip flop in response to the other's postings. It is tragic, amusing and a grim example of exactly how "unawake" they are as they thrash about entombed in their ignorance. But there are some who are vastly superior to others in both thought and musical ability. But modern technology has allowed the pretenders to don the robe of the musician as they sample, loop and edit their drool "creations". The are like little Igors running about in a childcare castle without a Frankenstein to serve. They need attention and Love but no one cares. Soon they will fade into the oblivion of the web of reality that is being spun about them. Take heart and do not give in to their "noise". There are some who listen and they more often than not are silent. Ta

And yet you are here .... in the ' tomb' ?
The only difference between you and the rest of us is flowery prose.
Igors or asshats its all the same.
"modern technology" is code for I am old and dont like how things are done today. You fail just like the rest of us - your high horse will buck you off sooner or later.
Put that in your obtuse pipe.
#167833 by J-HALEY
Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:58 pm
Tennessee Jedi wrote:
Vampier wrote:AirViking...good post. It seems it is like trying to speak upon philosophical issues to a kind of Kindergarten in a "home" for musicians here. There is a very "common" herd of ego fueled "musicians" who trot from one direction to the other ... obviously confused, unhappy and out of touch with the reality around them. Some do not pretend however...the Paperdog is one and Etu is another, but others seem to prowl the posts beating their puny chests while exercising their large mouths with puny brains in command. It is upsetting for them to think or concieve of a nonmusical post and all the requirements it brings with it. Do not be discouraged for it is like becoming angry at mosquitoes as they swarm about you. My wife and I have become amused as they misapply their newly acquired "goggle" knowledge and proudly pontificate. They are a plague which come with the territory of posting here. Existing in their obvious stupor, afraid to upset what they somehow percieve as their position and secretly terrified that the curtain of the internet be lifted to reveal who they really are and their failed miserable and unhappy lives. Some are even frightened to show pictures of themselves while most flip flop in response to the other's postings. It is tragic, amusing and a grim example of exactly how "unawake" they are as they thrash about entombed in their ignorance. But there are some who are vastly superior to others in both thought and musical ability. But modern technology has allowed the pretenders to don the robe of the musician as they sample, loop and edit their drool "creations". The are like little Igors running about in a childcare castle without a Frankenstein to serve. They need attention and Love but no one cares. Soon they will fade into the oblivion of the web of reality that is being spun about them. Take heart and do not give in to their "noise". There are some who listen and they more often than not are silent. Ta

And yet you are here .... in the ' tomb' ?
The only difference between you and the rest of us is flowery prose.
Igors or asshats its all the same.
"modern technology" is code for I am old and dont like how things are done today. You fail just like the rest of us - your high horse will buck you off sooner or later.
Put that in your obtuse pipe.


Thats the problem with you Libs. When you have no argument you start the name calling. That sounds REAL INTELIGENT!

Your post is kinda beyond my level of comprehension! Can you spell it out for me PALEEZE! :lol:
#167834 by Tennessee Jedi
Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:11 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Tennessee Jedi wrote:
Vampier wrote:AirViking...good post. It seems it is like trying to speak upon philosophical issues to a kind of Kindergarten in a "home" for musicians here. There is a very "common" herd of ego fueled "musicians" who trot from one direction to the other ... obviously confused, unhappy and out of touch with the reality around them. Some do not pretend however...the Paperdog is one and Etu is another, but others seem to prowl the posts beating their puny chests while exercising their large mouths with puny brains in command. It is upsetting for them to think or concieve of a nonmusical post and all the requirements it brings with it. Do not be discouraged for it is like becoming angry at mosquitoes as they swarm about you. My wife and I have become amused as they misapply their newly acquired "goggle" knowledge and proudly pontificate. They are a plague which come with the territory of posting here. Existing in their obvious stupor, afraid to upset what they somehow percieve as their position and secretly terrified that the curtain of the internet be lifted to reveal who they really are and their failed miserable and unhappy lives. Some are even frightened to show pictures of themselves while most flip flop in response to the other's postings. It is tragic, amusing and a grim example of exactly how "unawake" they are as they thrash about entombed in their ignorance. But there are some who are vastly superior to others in both thought and musical ability. But modern technology has allowed the pretenders to don the robe of the musician as they sample, loop and edit their drool "creations". The are like little Igors running about in a childcare castle without a Frankenstein to serve. They need attention and Love but no one cares. Soon they will fade into the oblivion of the web of reality that is being spun about them. Take heart and do not give in to their "noise". There are some who listen and they more often than not are silent. Ta

And yet you are here .... in the ' tomb' ?
The only difference between you and the rest of us is flowery prose.
Igors or asshats its all the same.
"modern technology" is code for I am old and dont like how things are done today. You fail just like the rest of us - your high horse will buck you off sooner or later.
Put that in your obtuse pipe.


Thats the problem with you Libs. When you have no argument you start the name calling. That sounds REAL INTELIGENT!

Your post is kinda beyond my level of comprehension! Can you spell it out for me PALEEZE! :lol:

Hey man
Who did I call a name ?
Why dont you call out the rest of your righty buds for the same thing ?
Thats all you Repubs can do when you have nothing ... change the subject
and avoid the issues
I like you Mr Haley but dude bring it on !
8)

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