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ron paul voters are just the wishy washy obama voters who have recently got 1/2 smart.
when you need them they won't be there.

ron paul voters are just the wishy washy obama voters who have recently got 1/2 smart.
when you need them they won't be there.

Not True... I did not vote for Obama, but I am thinking about voting for Ron Paul... He's the last of the commen sense people. I trust him over any of the other current options we have... AND he wont send a swat team to my house...

The vote on both sides is
controlled by the machine.

I think Ron Paul is right on target... Shades of Harry Truman. Is he electable? I don't know.

I think Ron Paul is right on target... Shades of Harry Truman. Is he electable? I don't know.

is that the Hiroshima Harry Truman, or the Potsdam Harry Truman or maybe the Korean war Harry Truman?

he's a senile old man who will get lots of lip service at the convention and then he will disappear forever.

I think Ron Paul is right on target... Shades of Harry Truman. Is he electable? I don't know.

is that the Hiroshima Harry Truman, or the Potsdam Harry Truman or maybe the Korean war Harry Truman?

he's a senile old man who will get lots of lip service at the convention and then he will disappear forever.

Actually I was thinking of this Harry Truman:
http://www.deweydefeatstruman.com/?gcli ... hwodpTnRhw
Time will surely tell who is electable in 2012.

I think Dr. Paul recognizes that we're now part of a global economy. What he said was he wants to strictly follow the Constitution: only Congress can declare war. This would make it much tougher for any administration to act as the world's policeman, something I totally agree with. I also believe that we need to take care of our own before spreading our tax dollars around the globe, especially to states such as Israel.

I can agree with you on that Jimmy.

I hate how easily and quickly we can send our troops to war to police the world. Iraq really bothered me (Bush's rush job/Cheney's lies/etc.). The UN really needs to be doing the policing instead of us leading the way most of the time. We're too quick to act and the rest of the world seems too quick to sit on their hands. I think if we acted slower and used peer pressure and guilt a bit more, we could get the rest of the world to step up to the plate when it comes to human atrocities that need policing.


And I agree about our tax dollars too. As left as I lean, I'd love to see a far more limited government that exists simply to provide essentials: security, roads, police, health care... I think if any of us had a chance to actually look at the budget and see all the myriad of places our tax dollars are going to, we'd probably puke...

The UN did the policing. I guess you just forgot about all the "UN" inspectors and sanction violations. HOW convenient. You better start taking your vitamins, or get a doctorate in rewriting history to suit the liberal agenda. I love guys like you, great players, but you can't remember which hand to wipe your asses with.

I think Ron Paul is right on target... Shades of Harry Truman. Is he electable? I don't know.

is that the Hiroshima Harry Truman, or the Potsdam Harry Truman or maybe the Korean war Harry Truman?

he's a senile old man who will get lots of lip service at the convention and then he will disappear forever.

Actually I was thinking of this Harry Truman:
http://www.deweydefeatstruman.com/?gcli ... hwodpTnRhw
Time will surely tell who is electable in 2012.

I think your thinking of obama

PaperDog

I used to write commentary for LewRockwell.com - the early days. Cranked out 70 some columns before I found myself boring myself! The Waco thing is my favorite. Otherwise...some good, some bad. Just got tired of it.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/peirce/peirce-arch.html

Rockwell used to be Ron Paul's chief of staff. I learned a lot working with him and I wrote for his print journal, the "Rocikwell Rothbard Report." I agree with him at about a 87% level. Got spiked twice and agreed to disagree once.

Ron Paul is a man. Not like the rest of 'em. i'm real sick of hearing he's a nutcase. Nobody ever says, 'I disagree with him on point a or b.' Because they wouldn't dare. Those discussions must NOT be had.

Talbot

PaperDog

I used to write commentary for LewRockwell.com - the early days. Cranked out 70 some columns before I found myself boring myself! The Waco thing is my favorite. Otherwise...some good, some bad. Just got tired of it.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/peirce/peirce-arch.html

Rockwell used to be Ron Paul's chief of staff. I learned a lot working with him and I wrote for his print journal, the "Rocikwell Rothbard Report." I agree with him at about a 87% level. Got spiked twice and agreed to disagree once.

Ron Paul is a man. Not like the rest of 'em. i'm real sick of hearing he's a nutcase. Nobody ever says, 'I disagree with him on point a or b.' Because they wouldn't dare. Those discussions must NOT be had.

Talbot

Mike, you are quite the writer... Really like your style... The Waco piece... (The peace officer..) and the piece "Remembering a Soldier" ....got me thinking...

I almost got my ass kicked a few months ago by a marine at a pub that I frequent... He served 4 tours in Afghanistan.
He proudly boasted a lineage of military members in his family. I asked him if he considered himself a real "warrior"...and he got all offended...He then lectured me on how the military is a business...and how my ideals don't mean sh*t... So, Then I asked him how many people he killed for the business...He got more offended. Then I asked why he got offended... He said "we don't think about what happens over there."

I told him, that while no do doubt, he served with valor, bravery and brought credit upon himself and the US marines, my question still stood... 'Did he think he was a real warrior?' He started to get vulgar with me, started degrading my role in the Navy, etc... It got so bad...I had to get up from the table, and leave.

Next day he wrote me an email, apologizing... I told him, no worries...but my question about being a warrior still stood.. I told him, You served honorably...but in my book , no one is a real warrior until they learn how to cry... When you tell me you don't 'think about what happened over there...'then as far as i am concerned, you are blowing smoke up my ass... Learn to cry, then come talk to me... I never heard back, and of course we dont drink or talk anymore.

I forwarded an abstract from a Naval War College course, which defines a real warrior. (Something they don't teach marines of his era) The explanation has all the elements of soulfulness, proper discretion, and above all, the desire for real peace. Its not just a "job"

Your Mcullogh and Hodgson appear to "get that", but this marine I spoke with, did not.

In light of our beer-night , and also an event at his workplace, I advised him to get counseling (PTSD)

Conan the Barbarian was a real warrior.


Obama scares me, might be a warrior in
the woodpile.

What was anyone thinking if they thought there wasn't going to be opposition on a political post? Ron Paul is too old. I don't want to vote for a president that dies in his term. Smart? yeah, but I like the views of Perry, and Gingrich I haven't liked as a Speaker, but like as an elective. I don't think either had been handed walking papers yet. Perry was discounted for his lapse in remembering those govt. agencies he wanted to squash. Do you remember what they were? You might think of them when you do your federal taxes when you get to the line that says your amount is... Mormons have there own rules that take exception to the 10 commandments that favor the men against God's word. What do you think he would do to our constitution? Maybe he'll have a dozen Vice presidents! Romney only has one wife, I know, but he is of a religion that makes it's own rules. How crude is that? Kinda Stalinish, aint it? Wait til he fires you so he can get one a' his bitches in there to run your job. Preposterous? Perhaps. How about being a member of that clique of men that think 12 wives is a good thing. You want change? Woodrow Wilson was a Morman. He sat on his hands and let the country run it'self down a dark road like Jimmy Carter. Carter was christian, all are not good for all. Nixon was a Quaker. His greatest decisions were of Christian faith and so was Ragan's. And Washington's. And Lincoln's. We need a Christian leader that listens to revelations told to him that is Good for the country, not just to the politicians.

The sad truth is none of us could handle a president who really tryed to fix the problems, Why? Cause we would all suffer, financially, this country needs to cut spending somewhere between 28% and 33% to even begin to fix the problems, the only problem is those cuts would flow thru to you and I.

Who here would be happy giving up roughly a third of what they are paid today to fix things?

You can talk parties and candidates to death, but none of them get anywhere close, other than Ron Paul, I like him, but hes old to start with, and if he got his way, we would be in a lot rougher shape for a while than the average person is today.

Some of you better be careful what you wish for, cause if you ever get it, it might not be as nice as you think.

Ron Paul is a man. Not like the rest of 'em. i'm real sick of hearing he's a nutcase. Nobody ever says, 'I disagree with him on point a or b.' Because they wouldn't dare. Those discussions must NOT be had.

Talbot

Bingo! Because deep down they know that his arguments are valid. The only response left is name calling and character assassination. We will surely see plenty more of that.

He is the only current candidate that is not completely beholden to some special interest group attempting a power grab (unions, banks, lawyers, wall street, oil etc.). Independence means a great deal to us average Joes because he has our interests instead of those special interests in mind. Powerful stuff.

Ron Paul will make this election interesting at least.

On this matter about Marines, and the latest events... Marines are told and trained to do things that are not for the squeemish. It is not their fault...their training. Marines are told stuff I do not want to post on a world wide forum. That would be stupid. About as stupid as the Marines video taping a desecration of war casualties in a way they may have been told is the Marine Corps way. An intelligent thing for the marines to have done is kill the Taliban victims by pissing on them then shooting them when their dead. Even bayoneting a corpse is better than a urinal video going viral. It makes us all inhumane as Americans. Dead people don't need urinated on. It proves nothing but we are warriors from the worst of America. I was a Marine. I have the greatest respect of all that have served, no matter the branch. designed to protect those that can't. A privelege I am thankful to have partaken. An honor to be among those others that do and have so that we are what we are the greatest nation on earth in history. Those that can piss on another human even after death need examined.