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#161431 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:24 pm
God's blessing come to those that want to walk in the path of life as Jesus did. We are all sinners. Sinner. It is an ugly word no one wants used on them. It probably put you back just reading my opening statement. Other ugly words are murderer, thief, adulterer (especially when we might have to use them on our spouse). These words conjure up an instant disgust we don't want to discuss. We are all tempted in our lives. A good person doesn't succumb. The blessed are the one's that can do not only that but to forgive those that trespass against us. Where would we be without forgiveness? Anybody?

#161432 by jimmydanger
Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:32 pm
Jesus liked to hang around sinners, and had a prostitute girlfriend. So yeah I wanna be just like him.

#161436 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:40 pm
A prostitute until she met Him, right? Define girlfriend in this context. Did Jesus do anything with her as you might have with any of your "girlfriends"? We all hang around sinners, don't we?

#161439 by Slacker G
Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:02 pm
"God's blessing come to those that want to walk in the path of life as Jesus did. "


It is written that God blesses both the Godly and the ungodly. As he chooses. And that is why there are so many bad guys at the top of the food chain. :)

#161440 by jimmydanger
Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:03 pm
Historians have debated what he did with Mary Magdelene. Some have even hinted that he fathered a child with her, but there is no direct proof.

#161443 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:27 pm
Any thing and everything written in the Bible has been questioned by "historians". It is not in the Bible that Jesus fathered a child. What more proof do I need that he didn't. What do we learn from this? You don't have to be Jesus to be blamed for fathering a child. Ask Justin Beiber. I do not put myself in a place alone with a woman that is not my wife that is not public. Jesus was only alone with her at the public well, after the others left. After his resurrection he was alone with her as that she came upon him. It is written that Jesus told her not to touch Him. HMMMmmm. Old "Girlfriend"? I don't think so.

#161450 by MikeTalbot
Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:35 pm
Must have been the same 'historians' who had for so many years mocked Christians for believing there was a nation called Assyria because we read of it in scripture.

The book of course was right. I wonder what made them fight so hard against it, when that should have been used as a resource to find archeological sites. (as it was ultimately)

Jesus was a sinless man. He 'fullfilled' Jewish law once and for all, being the only man ever to not break it. As such, his death worked salvation for us - Jesus taking upon himself the guilt for our sins and ultimatley overcoming death.

That's how it works. And you just saved thousands of bucks by not having to go to seminary. :wink:

Talbot

Happy New year
Talbot
#161458 by Etu Malku
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:04 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:God's blessing come to those that want to walk in the path of life as Jesus did. We are all sinners. Sinner. It is an ugly word no one wants used on them. It probably put you back just reading my opening statement. Other ugly words are murderer, thief, adulterer (especially when we might have to use them on our spouse). These words conjure up an instant disgust we don't want to discuss. We are all tempted in our lives. A good person doesn't succumb. The blessed are the one's that can do not only that but to forgive those that trespass against us. Where would we be without forgiveness? Anybody?
You really had to start the New Year off like this? LOL!!!

I'm not a sinner, wasn't born into sin either. Sin is subjective. Sin is a made up concept of the Abrahamic faiths designed to control its Sheeple.
There is nothing wrong with enjoying carnal knowledge, eating of the fruits of life, embracing your desires!


Urvan ameretat me nemah'ya I
Etu Malku

#161461 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:22 pm
Nothing wrong with eating from the tree of knowledge either, I suppose. Your response was predictable. Enjoy this life as other Godless people do because you have this carnal knowledge. Christians get tested, Christians fail. It is the mark of their resolve that becomes their reward. After this life expires, the best your body can do is rot. The worst that can happen is your bloodless body gets ripped and burned in solitary confinement in the lake of fire with nothing but demons to hear your screams. Can you tell me You haven't witnessed demons in your life, (even without acknowledging there is a God or a promise)? Happy New Year!

#161463 by Etu Malku
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:28 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:Nothing wrong with eating from the tree of knowledge either, I suppose. Your response was predictable. Enjoy this life as other Godless people do because you have this carnal knowledge. Christians get tested, Christians fail. It is the mark of their resolve that becomes their reward. After this life expires, the best your body can do is rot. The worst that can happen is your bloodless body gets ripped and burned in solitary confinement in the lake of fire with nothing but demons to hear your screams. Can you tell me You haven't witnessed demons in your life, (even without acknowledging there is a God or a promise)? Happy New Year!
Demons? Are you Sirius? LOL!!

Demons, like gods, are archetypal images as well. Why do you pollute your mind with all these crazy myths and stories? It ain't psychologically healthy.

** Pffft . . . lake of fire (Styx, lousy band as well)!

#161464 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:33 pm
Good cover art aint it. Better than you've produced. I think you can do better. Pollute, well, your smokestack is a blowin'. God? hey, you hit this topic. Stand clear or get polluted.

#161466 by Etu Malku
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:37 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:Good cover art aint it. Better than you've produced. I think you can do better.
Huh?

#161467 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:45 pm
You said Styx. don't know Styx cover art. Don't know a song that has'nt hit you in a good moment from them? you are already lifeless and don't know it. Someone will tell you one day. Maybe they'll play Styx for you in Hell as you burn without consumption, eternally! for now, well just laugh and play. Maybe they (the demons will play on a qualifying stereo YOUR music to you- eternally!

#161469 by Slacker G
Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:57 pm
"Christians get tested, Christians fail. It is the mark of their resolve that becomes their reward."

Nicely put Crunchy. :)

#161472 by Christopher Holmes
Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:07 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:Any thing and everything written in the Bible has been questioned by "historians".


A book that was compiled over 300 years AFTER Jesus died with many parts written by people who did not have any first-hand knowledge of the events in question.

Let's not forget what the Bible really is: it's not the "Word of God" - it's a book written by people and then compiled by a council of historians. The writings that landed in the bible were the product of the Council of Nicaea. God didn't wave a magic wand and print that book and then drop it down from the heavens. Every word in that book was written by men, and many words were written hundreds of years after the events in question - by people who were not witnesses to the events. How accurate do you think any of those writings really are?

Any thinking person is right to question the validity and accuracy of the Bible.

Let me ask you something: In this day and age of the internet and instant communication, suppose I tasked you with writing about a historic incident that happened 300 years ago, so your writing could be part of a "definitive" compilation of that event. How accurate do you think your account would be, given that you weren't alive to witness it? You would at least have the advantage of being able to use reference materials from libraries, books, video, YouTube, the internet, and potentially interviewing people who's families may have been involved in that incident. You'd have a small chance to get *some* details correct based on the quality of your reference material.

The people who wrote the bible? They didn't have any of any those resources. They had their own imaginations. Word of mouth. Stories passed down generation after generation.

We've all played the game in grade school where you stand in a line and whisper something in one person's ear and see how it turns out when it reaches the last person in line. It's never the same is it? Imagine not just passing a single phrase along from person to person, but a whole story about historic event, and then thinking that story is going to be accurate?

Give me a break.

There's a reason any historian would question the Bible. There's a reason any *thinking person* with their own mind would question the contents of the Bible.

It's a book written by men. Assembled by men.

I don't have a problem with people choosing to believe in a higher power or turning to a specific belief system to enhance the happiness and quality of their life. But don't bring the Bible into play. It's a book. Nothing more.

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