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#142615 by gbheil
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:06 pm
BassBastard wrote:I am pro choice on this issue

The choice was made at conception. After that it is taking away the right of the baby to live.

I do make exceptions for rape, incest etc etc

But seriously. the choice to have sex is the one the woman has. After that it is borderline murder up to about 9 weeks then it is murder.


Sounds reasonable ... I stand here.

Choose to be responsible ... period.
Abortion is murder ... period.
Publicly collected funds for abortion, contraception, or any other type of health care issue that is an individuals responsibility is unconstitutional.
As far as the rape / incest issue. The Lord God says he may bring good from even the greatest of evils.
( I would support death penalty for aggravated rape convictions )
It's not the baby's fault, why should it be the one executed.

#142618 by Mike Nobody
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:21 pm
sanshouheil wrote:
BassBastard wrote:I am pro choice on this issue

The choice was made at conception. After that it is taking away the right of the baby to live.

I do make exceptions for rape, incest etc etc

But seriously. the choice to have sex is the one the woman has. After that it is borderline murder up to about 9 weeks then it is murder.


Sounds reasonable ... I stand here.

Choose to be responsible ... period.
Abortion is murder ... period.
Publicly collected funds for abortion, contraception, or any other type of health care issue that is an individuals responsibility is unconstitutional.
As far as the rape / incest issue. The Lord God says he may bring good from even the greatest of evils.
( I would support death penalty for aggravated rape convictions )
It's not the baby's fault, why should it be the one executed.


Y'know? It is mostly MEN who are against abortion.

Why do pro-lifers (a newspeak euphemism if there ever was one) have such a short memory? Doesn't anybody think back to before Roe vs Wade? Doesn't anybody think about the botched back alley abortions and dead teenagers? Why does a "potential" person have more value than a real live talking one?

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#142620 by Chaeya
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:44 pm
So Bob, where are you getting your information because I can't find any 2010 abortion statistics anywhere from the Guttmar or the CDC. I've googled to high heaven and most of the abortion statistics aren't yet posted for 2010. I mean, I've been in this debate many times and oftentimes I've seen where more Whites have had abortions than minorities, or are you simply just getting it from one source. So please share your information, I'm interested to see it.

Chaeya

#142621 by Chaeya
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:51 pm
As far as abortion goes, I wouldn't choose to have one, however, I believe it's a choice between the two people involved. I don't believe in using abortion for birth control, but I'm not against it being public funded in certain cases.

Chaeya

#142622 by Mike Nobody
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:55 pm
:lol:

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#142626 by gbheil
Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:17 pm
Stupidity and irresponsibility are not an excuse to make anything, let alone murder of innocence legal.

My opinion stands as it is ... and has ever since I was selfish enough to participate in said atrocity myself.
I and the other individual involved have come to terms with our actions.
Thank Jesus for his forgiveness and my salvation for the blood on my hands.

As far as statistics go.
One mutilated infant ... is too many.

Then again I always have to consider my fathers idea.
Allow abortion to be legal as long as it is socially universal and retroactive.

Kill anyone whom causes you an inconvience ... and call it abortion.

#142629 by Mike9699
Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:42 pm
This is supposed to be a music sharing site Mr. Nobody. Why do you spam these forums with your useless political drivel? As far as this thread, were you one of the botched ones?

#142630 by Mike Nobody
Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:48 pm
Mike9699 wrote:This is supposed to be a music sharing site Mr. Nobody. Why do you spam these forums with your useless political drivel? As far as this thread, were you one of the botched ones?


Folks talk about everything here. If you don't like it don't read it.

#142631 by Mike9699
Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:20 pm
General Chat
All users can post to this forum on general music topics.

Does the above look familiar? Yes people talk about everything here. These subjects do come up in general chatting but you seem to be on some mission to turn this site into the Mike Nobody Left Wing Political Forums with your cut and paste spam. There are a million political sites out there where people like you can get their I hate America fix.

#142637 by Mike Nobody
Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:36 pm
Mike9699 wrote:General Chat
All users can post to this forum on general music topics.

Does the above look familiar? Yes people talk about everything here. These subjects do come up in general chatting but you seem to be on some mission to turn this site into the Mike Nobody Left Wing Political Forums with your cut and paste spam. There are a million political sites out there where people like you can get their I hate America fix.


Ah! So, all the RIGHT WING drivel is fine then? I see where you are coming from. OK. Bye-bye.

#142639 by Mike9699
Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:00 pm
I don't see anyone spamming the boards with cut and paste right wing political rhetoric so give me a break.

#142642 by BassBastard
Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:33 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:
sanshouheil wrote:
BassBastard wrote:I am pro choice on this issue

The choice was made at conception. After that it is taking away the right of the baby to live.

I do make exceptions for rape, incest etc etc

But seriously. the choice to have sex is the one the woman has. After that it is borderline murder up to about 9 weeks then it is murder.


Sounds reasonable ... I stand here.

Choose to be responsible ... period.
Abortion is murder ... period.
Publicly collected funds for abortion, contraception, or any other type of health care issue that is an individuals responsibility is unconstitutional.
As far as the rape / incest issue. The Lord God says he may bring good from even the greatest of evils.
( I would support death penalty for aggravated rape convictions )
It's not the baby's fault, why should it be the one executed.


Y'know? It is mostly MEN who are against abortion.

Why do pro-lifers (a newspeak euphemism if there ever was one) have such a short memory? Doesn't anybody think back to before Roe vs Wade? Doesn't anybody think about the botched back alley abortions and dead teenagers? Why does a "potential" person have more value than a real live talking one?

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First, love the Gif

second, I do remember the horror stories. They pay for the consequences of thier actions. They die in an act of murder.

The desperate ones are generally victims of Incest, Rape and Molestation. That should be allowed up to 9 weeks. Then, regardless of the woman's/girls's wishes the person who victimized them should be charged with both the crime against her and the zygote.

Third, I was raised by women, with a father figure coming into my life after I was a teenager. I have yet to meet more than one woman who is pro-abortion. They generally agree with my interpretation of legal abortion.

Absolutes are usually bad, even in this case. But thanks to Roe vs Wade I have twin little brothers I will never know. You can guess the one woman in my life who agrees with unrestricted legal abortion.

#142655 by MikeTalbot
Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:26 am
Mike

You got it backward - men are the MOST pro-abortion, contraception too. They want the milk but don't want to buy the cow. Now they can screw like animals and imagine there to be no consequences.

My wife and I worked on a pregnancy crisis center early in our relationship. We put a roof on the thing (she is a much better carpenter than me) and I wrote their software.

Last time I checked there were 86 pictures on the wall - of babies - real live human beings, black ones by the way, who are still alive because of that place. Where would they be if they'd been aborted? Chucked in a dumpster? Yeah. In the old days. Now they sell the parts. Just follow the money and all this "caring about woman" crap is exposed for the lie it actually is.

Does nobody remember that half the babies that get slaughtered are female?

Talbot

#142666 by Chaeya
Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:49 am
Actually, there are still many babies who are chucked in the dumpster and so on, which is more angering to me than an abortion because this baby was born alive, with feelings and emotions, and discarded.

All hospitals have a safe surrender rule, but most of these are committed by teenagers who are frightened and afraid, and they're so young, many of them really can't comprehend the consequences of their actions.

I work and contribute to Project Cuddle, a charitiy that helps pregnant women get help such as medical, host families, and other resources, including finding an adoptive family for the baby after it's born. We've had celebrity sponsors like John Stamos, and Debbie Magnusen has been on Oprah, 20/20 to spread the word about her charity. She was responsible for getting the "safe surrender" law put into action.

Chaeya

#142676 by J-HALEY
Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:19 am
Mike you are SUCH A LIBERALL ASSHOLE! How in the PHUK can you post pictures of a mother that has a down syndrom baby like that! MY Question to you (you prick) is do you have any kids! Answer me YOU PHUKIN A$$HOLE! well do you?
I have a whole litter (slew) of kids. It would have been SO EASY for me to have been irresponsible. My eldest son would BEAT Your Ass without any prob! I agree that most men are against abortion! We ain't carring these babies!

I think you folks are not getting the big picture? If you are MATURE enough to have sex? then you should be mature enough to DEAL WITH THE consequences! GOD DAMN IT! The best thing that EVER happen to me is my kids they ONLY WANT to be with me! You don't have to raise them if you don't want to? There are plenty of folks that can't have kids that WANT them?

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