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#141420 by fisherman bob
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:37 am
Rhythmman is now a guest? I wanted to go back and listen to his song again to check to see how "out of tune" it was. When I listen to a tune I listen to the overall impression of the song. I'm not picking it apart, whether it's out of tune, exactly what the guitar is doing, the exact progression, exactly what chords are being played and when. I really don't care. You can get into a paralysis by analysis situation by finding faults (sometimes trivially minute) in different aspects of a tune. I don't care about theory, whether somebody is playing the "proper scales" etc. What I care most about is the EMOTION I feel when listening to a song. I never try to impress anybody on a technical level, I want them to ENJOY THE SONG. If I want to express anger in a song, I want the listener to FEEL the anger. I'm not a technically trained musician. I just play and play and play, for thirty years. I may be playing a bunch of the wrong notes, I may be out of tune at times, I might be a total idiot when it comes to the "science" of what I do, BUT I guarantee you're not going to kick me out of your band based on what I play. You might kick me out because of a personality conflict, that happens in almost every band. But I put everything into each note, I get a superior, signature tone, I play a percussive bass in sync with the drummer, and I back up the lead guitarist and DON'T interfere with what they are doing. Jerry Dowell called me a "righteous" bass player. High praise form a great musician.

It's too bad rhythmman is now a guest. Perhaps he IS too sensitive to take criticism. If you post music on here you can expect some critique. That's one of the great things about this forum. You'll get lots of opinions by people with many different viewpoints. KEEP the critiques coming...and don't take them too seriously. I can't stand some filthy rich and world famous artists. I can critique them until I'm blue in the face, but there's countless people who buy their tunes, just as I'm sure many people enjoy rhythmman's music (I do). This thread became a pretty heated debate. Kind of surprised me...

#141423 by Lynard Dylan
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:47 am
Neanderpaul I listened to Love is a Wonderful Thing, I liked it , it was quite good. I'm on my fourth wine now andI'll probably be singing it the rest of the night.
Love is a wonderful thing

#141424 by Lynard Dylan
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:50 am
Fisherman Bob the wrongness of music theory is what makes it so right always has.

#141425 by fisherman bob
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:55 am
Lynard Dylan wrote:Fisherman Bob the wrongness of music theory is what makes it so right always has.
There's nothing wrong with music theory if you elicit the emotion(s) you want from your audience. Somebody playing pure technical anything for the sake of technical anything doesn't impress me. What impresses me is the POWER of my emotions listening to somebody, regardless of their technical prowess. POWER in music (IMO) has nothing to do with technique or volume. It has everything to do with having the audience in the palm of your hand...

#141426 by neanderpaul
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:56 am
fisherman bob wrote:
Lynard Dylan wrote:Fisherman Bob the wrongness of music theory is what makes it so right always has.
There's nothing wrong with music theory if you elicit the emotion(s) you want from your audience. Somebody playing pure technical anything for the sake of technical anything doesn't impress me. What impresses me is the POWER of my emotions listening to somebody, regardless of their technical prowess. POWER in music (IMO) has nothing to do with technique or volume. It has everything to do with having the audience in the palm of your hand...

Perfect.

#141427 by fisherman bob
Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:17 am
neanderpaul wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:
Lynard Dylan wrote:Fisherman Bob the wrongness of music theory is what makes it so right always has.
There's nothing wrong with music theory if you elicit the emotion(s) you want from your audience. Somebody playing pure technical anything for the sake of technical anything doesn't impress me. What impresses me is the POWER of my emotions listening to somebody, regardless of their technical prowess. POWER in music (IMO) has nothing to do with technique or volume. It has everything to do with having the audience in the palm of your hand...

Perfect.
Like this:
www.Youtube.com/watch?v=_SRcysjX1j4
Last edited by fisherman bob on Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

#141428 by Scratchy
Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:07 am
fisherman bob wrote:Rhythmman is now a guest?

It's too bad rhythmman is now a guest. Perhaps he IS too sensitive to take criticism. If you post music on here you can expect some critique. That's one of the great things about this forum. You'll get lots of opinions by people with many different viewpoints. KEEP the critiques coming...and don't take them too seriously. I can't stand some filthy rich and world famous artists. I can critique them until I'm blue in the face, but there's countless people who buy their tunes, just as I'm sure many people enjoy rhythmman's music (I do). This thread became a pretty heated debate. Kind of surprised me...


"Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust"

#141432 by neanderpaul
Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:32 am
fisherman bob wrote:
neanderpaul wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:
Lynard Dylan wrote:Fisherman Bob the wrongness of music theory is what makes it so right always has.
There's nothing wrong with music theory if you elicit the emotion(s) you want from your audience. Somebody playing pure technical anything for the sake of technical anything doesn't impress me. What impresses me is the POWER of my emotions listening to somebody, regardless of their technical prowess. POWER in music (IMO) has nothing to do with technique or volume. It has everything to do with having the audience in the palm of your hand...

Perfect.
Like this:
www.Youtube.com/watch?v=_SRcysjX1j4

Humbled. :oops:
thank you sir.

#141440 by Chaeya
Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:02 am
I was like Bob, I put my headphones on and then I couldn't click. Oh well. But Bob said it best above.

About tuning, you can take an out of tune guitar and make it work in a song, you can sing a line a little off key and the emotion will make it work. However, it takes talent to be able to pull this off because it's a fine line between a guitar being out of tune which causes a clash with the music or a voice being out of key which makes you cringe.

I'm probably not making sense, but too bad, just gotta learn to have a thick skin in this business.

Chaeya

#141446 by neanderpaul
Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:28 am
That makes sense to me. I remember when I learned that. I have a friend who is a phenomenal rock and rebel country vocalist. He was off key in a rock song and it sounded soooooo goooood. I was baffled. I knew it was off and I knew it was good. It made no sense. I guess I'm still baffled! :lol:

Guitar is different. It can be out in some leads and sound urgent or insane literally in an appropriate way.

#141448 by fisherman bob
Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:31 am
Bill Blue could plug an out of tune guitar into a watermelon and make it sound good, some people have the ability and some don't...

#141459 by jimmydanger
Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:55 pm
Alan has left in huff before and come back. We run to our rooms after we get spanked, but eventually come out again.

#141463 by Lynard Dylan
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:04 pm
:lol:

#141464 by neanderpaul
Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:07 pm
:lol:

#141482 by Chaeya
Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:46 pm
Instead of an IGNORE button, we should have a TIME OUT button where if we get pissed off we can press it and it will blackout our account for 10 days then come back after we've cooled off.

Chaeya

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