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#140878 by philbymon
Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:27 pm
I guess he'd prefer if we had been meddling all this time. Sorry. That ain't what I would think is the right thing to do, either...though, we HAVE been meddling, haven't we? With aid & payoffs & military training & cheap arms & such...

It DOES tend to look like we support the regimes, when you step back & look at the big pic.

I'm afraid that we're all in for a world of hurt, as these uprisings continue, & more of our history of international abuse come to light through Wikileaks & their ilk.

Then, our corporate overlords will no doubt step up to the plate & take total control without the cloak of politics, & return order to the world...

#140886 by Stringdancer
Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:11 pm
though, we HAVE been meddling, haven't we? With aid & payoffs & military training & cheap arms & such...



That's Friedman's point, we have been meddling by keeping 2 bit dictators in power to the expense of the people of those countries.

While advocating democracy and freedom oil consuming countries sold out the freedom and civil rights of the population of oil producing countries for the sake of a steady flow of oil and Israel for the past 50 years.

Can you say $5 per gallon gas? Coz that's what is gonna happen very soon and as usual who is going to pay the for a mis guided and hypocritical policy in the Middle East are the working people.

It sucks being powerless.

#140906 by Slacker G
Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:17 am
Phil,

The "American Dream Movement" is comprised of leftists, Laraza, the Islamic Society, the communist party, American unions and other socialist groups world strong. They are going to break America, not the other way around in my opinion.

They are pretending to have been formed in the last few months or so, as a peace loving group only concerned for the American worker. However, it is documented this world organization began in 08.
To my understanding, their intention to form a one world government through establishing "Democracy" and smashing capitalism throughout the world. Does World Wide Socialism come to mind?

I WAS able to experience a far greater freedom than we have had in these last decades. I still miss it. Every year more and more of it was taken by the thieves and liars that we elected to look out for our best interests.

I feel sorry for the younger generation who have been made complete idiots courtesy of the public school system. They are going to inherit a dismal world indeed. That is if these idiots don't completely destroy it.

Watch this group closely and you shall see for yourself what they are intending to do. Only time will tell. :evil:

Nav4c ONLY $5.00 a gallon gas? I wish I could be such a positive thinker.

#140949 by Prevost82
Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:40 pm
Why does everthing have to be about the US. Don't you think that these middle east countries want something better and maybe ... just maybe it's about them and the living conditions they have to put up with ... I doubt very much that these rioters are even thinking about the US or Europe or any other place ... they just want a say in their future.

The "American Dream" is comprised of corporate interest and backed by some parts of the government, if not all. Their goal is to make the rich richer and to hell with the rest of the country.... they are the ones that will bring down the US

The "American Dream Movement" is to counter this .... people are feed up with the Tea Party's agenda that panders to corp interest and money ... maybe the ADM people should have gone out and voted in the last election and this could have been avoided.

I find it funny how many people in the US have bought into the corp propaganda of the "American Dream" which undermines the worker standard of living, health care, unions (livable wage), real freedoms (besides being able to carry a gun), the ability to own a home (bank fraud) ... the list goes on and on ... the corp have sure done a good job of brain washing the US citizens

Like anything in life ... there has to be balance .. between what the people get and what the corp's get ... call it what you want ... ying and yang ... or what ever. The corp's need a level playing field and nothing more ... no tax brakes or government subsidies over the level playing field. Worker have to make enough money (a living wage) to live at a decent standard of living ... right now I see the US worker in a race to the bottom .. the corps are making obscene profits and the worker is just surviving.

#140954 by Hayden King
Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:56 pm
Agent Provocateurs; don't you think it odd that...
the economies of countries around the globe "suddenly" started collapsing simultaneously?
Countries around the globe simultaneously started "bailing out" their fallen economies through loans from international banks?
The Middle East countries simultaneously rioting for freedoms?
Animals around the globe simultaneously started dying in mass?

Do you really think that a world of hundreds of countries in separate places with separate governments simultaneously start facing the same problems and using the same remedies is just coincidence?

These riots/problems/solutions all come from the same source... The Globalists!

#140955 by Slacker G
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:14 pm
I know some believe this to be superstitious rhetoric from the ignorant. However,all things considered. No need to mock it.

(BBE) Isa 24:1 See, the Lord is making the earth waste and unpeopled, he is turning it upside down, and sending the people in all directions.

Most likely it is simply coincidence those at the bottom are rising to the top, and those at the top are falling to the bottom. Don't think it will happen here? When it does, it would be a really good time to believe, just in case.

But personally, I don't believe in coincidence. 8)

#140960 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:50 pm
I will never ever understand religious thinking. When asked why God allows the atrocities we see everyday, the religious say "oh that's not God, He gave us free will". But then they will claim that God is angry and going to smite us and cleanse the earth. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

#140961 by Mike Nobody
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:58 pm
jimmydanger wrote:I will never ever understand religious thinking. When asked why God allows the atrocities we see everyday, the religious say "oh that's not God, He gave us free will". But then they will claim that God is angry and going to smite us and cleanse the earth. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.


God must be a schizophrenic.

#140962 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:07 pm
God's not nuts, but His believers sure are.

#140963 by Mike Nobody
Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:08 pm
jimmydanger wrote:God's not nuts, but His believers sure are.


"Dear Lord,

Save us from your followers!

Amen"

#140980 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:48 am
Very funny , so much fodder to feed feed my camel , outback. Gets 250 miles to the gallon, (water that is) . When are you guys going to get back to talking about music?

#140986 by Hayden King
Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:07 am
GlenJ wrote: When are you guys going to get back to talking about music?


When the industry and economy allow for music to be made and performed without it costing more than we make?!

#140988 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:21 am
Hayden King wrote:
GlenJ wrote: When are you guys going to get back to talking about music?


When the industry and economy allow for music to be made and performed without it costing more than we make?!


Taking life seriously again, EHHH?

We been through this all before. I am not talking politics because you are saying it all.

Sorry man.

#141008 by gbheil
Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:52 pm
Obama Administration and the UN are thinking about sanctions...

OH MY I"M SOOOO SCARED


Pin heads

#141031 by Prevost82
Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:23 pm
Hayden King wrote:Do you really think that a world of hundreds of countries in separate places with separate governments simultaneously start facing the same problems and using the same remedies is just coincidence?

These riots/problems/solutions all come from the same source... The Globalists!


Globalists???? Global ecomomy

Well the financal problems started in the US in a place call Wall Street and US financal rating agencies rated them triple A and Wall Street exported a bunch of worthless paper around the world and that is the catalyst that started all this sh*t ... it kinda like an epidemic.

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