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#134905 by RhythmMan
Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:21 pm
[quote=" . . . I really liked a few bands until they went political on me. When they do, I drop them. I am not the only one who feels that way.
If it is something that helps people, then I am for it. (otherwise) It is a turn off for me.[/quote]
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#134936 by BassBastard
Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:53 pm
This reminds me how "liberals" have changed since i was a child. I beleive how they once taught. Though conservative, I beleive in your right to feel and say what you beleive, even if it is contrary to my beleifs.
I would fight to the death for your right to beleive and say things that I may not agree with.

I will also fight for my own right to say and beleive what others disagree with. The first amendment was not put in place to protect polite speech. It was put in place to protect the right to say that which may offend.

So, disagree with me and we can have a debate.

Attempt to forcefully shut down opinion and thought that is contrary to your beleifs and I move down the amendments to the next one. I beleive in the second amentment just as passionately.

No where in the constitution does it say you have a right to live your life without being offended. Rather than try to shut down or regulate that which you disagree with, vote with your remote control. Change the channel. If ratings drop, so does advertising revenue. That is why I refuse to wach news sources that worship BHO.

#134937 by Dewy
Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:54 pm
I hear a LOT more honesty on Fox News than MSNBC, Liberal Headquarters, USA.

A: MSNBC is NOT Liberal Headquarters USA
B: If you hear more honesty on Fox than MSNBC then you're not listening to either one. In fact... you've made an accusation of falsehoods broadcast by MSNBC, can you provide a single example that was not retracted?

I can give you hundreds of instances of misinformation broadcast by Fox, can you give me ONE that MSNBC has not retracted?

People actually watch MSNBC?

Yes PEOPLE watch MSNBC, Sheeple watch Fox.

Obama is loved by Europeans for his socialist views.

Ok, I have to be honest, I didn't read past this ignorant statement. I interact with many people from all over the world and by European standards Obama is very conservative... also in the world where they actually KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS they do not consider him a socialist. He has no socialist credentials, has presented no socialist plans for this nation and is only a "Socialist" in the very broadest of terms. He's CALLED a SOCIALIST by his detractors trying to make him out to be something Red and Evil.

Truth is he is a very Moderate Democrat, yet I see lots of folks fearing him like a Stalin. I think your fear is the problem, not Obama.

Perhaps but I really liked a few bands until they went political on me. When they do, I drop them. I am not the only one who feels that way.
If it is something that helps people, then I am for it. But their opinions do not matter especially selling music. It is a turn off for me.

Ok, music is supposed to be about passion... you write about what you are passionate about, not what your fans want to hear. I suppose you think all music should be about is Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (not very conservative topics).

Do you find no merit in Buffalo Springfield's "Something Happening Here"?


Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

Very Political, Very LIBERAL... as in generous with the truth.

#134939 by BassBastard
Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:58 pm
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away


This reminds me of how the TSA recently raided a California commercial airline pilot's home and confiscated his gun and concealed carry permit because he revealed inconsistancies in security policy at the San Francisco airport.

I am SO happy this administration has nothing going on that appears totailtarian.

#134941 by Mike Nobody
Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:06 pm
American Dad - Oliver North song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juxm4P4fnq8

#134942 by Mike Nobody
Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:09 pm
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#134945 by Dewy
Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:26 pm
Right... Obama demanded that I suppose.

Should I blame him because a local Barney Fife decided to come out to my place and confiscate my shotgun and haul me off to jail because someone supposedly heard Gunshots in my rural neighborhood?

His line of reasoning at the time was " I had a gun and matched the description". Later the actual report comes thru and it turns out no one "heard shots" but rather saw me with a gun in my OWN YARD.

Cop had to change his story, now I am accused of "pointing it at him in the dark", a "menacing with a firearm" charge that carries up to a year and a day in jail.

So far has cost me $3000 in Lawyer fees and another $1000 to "plead guilty" on stipulation of appeal. We are still waiting to get it to district court and retry it.

But hey, I get to thank BushCo for providing that officer with a nice new AR-15 assault rifle and kevlar so he can come to my home and arrest/ assault me. Literally, Bastard got a AR-15 to help "fight drugs" from Federal funds in 2007.

So maybe you need to thank the folks who made TSA, not Obama for your story about a pilot and his gun.

#134946 by Mike Nobody
Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:29 pm
BassBastard wrote:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away


This reminds me of how the TSA recently raided a California commercial airline pilot's home and confiscated his gun and concealed carry permit because he revealed inconsistancies in security policy at the San Francisco airport.

I am SO happy this administration has nothing going on that appears totailtarian.


The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the house and Ernest Hollings in the Senate, passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001. Originally part of the U.S. Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on March 25, 2003.

SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

#134958 by Erik Van
Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:01 pm
People actually watch MSNBC?

Yes PEOPLE watch MSNBC, Sheeple watch Fox.

Obama is loved by Europeans for his socialist views.

Ok, I have to be honest, I didn't read past this ignorant statement. I interact with many people from all over the world and by European standards Obama is very conservative... also in the world where they actually KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS they do not consider him a socialist. He has no socialist credentials, has presented no socialist plans for this nation and is only a "Socialist" in the very broadest of terms. He's CALLED a SOCIALIST by his detractors trying to make him out to be something Red and Evil.

Truth is he is a very Moderate Democrat, yet I see lots of folks fearing him like a Stalin. I think your fear is the problem, not Obama.

Perhaps but I really liked a few bands until they went political on me. When they do, I drop them. I am not the only one who feels that way.
If it is something that helps people, then I am for it. But their opinions do not matter especially selling music. It is a turn off for me.

Ok, music is supposed to be about passion... you write about what you are passionate about, not what your fans want to hear. I suppose you think all music should be about is Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (not very conservative topics).

Do you find no merit in Buffalo Springfield's "Something Happening Here"?


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Regarding my ignorant statement about his socialist views. That is right from articles from other countries. Turn off MSNBC and do some reasearch.

Music is passion but I do not want to listen to the politcal rantings of others I disagree with and that is my right. If it is something you strongly believe in then give your music away for free not sell it. If you really want to get your message out then why ask for people to pay for it? Seems a bit wrong in my opinion. Subtle is one thning but extreme politcal rantings is another.
I like to read not watch Fox or any other station. There are great articles all over the world right here online.
We can agree to disagree and I wll not force my opinions on your or call you ignorant because I believe in your right to spew what ever you feel as long as you do not force it on others. That is what I hate most people who think they are the only ones allowed to have an opinion or they are right no matter what. I have liberal friends and they push their agenda and want to fight, I do not. They are growing up and learning that their pay check is amounting to nothing or they can't find a job for anything. They have told me what a big mistake they made in Obama not me.
Yes you are right I have a probllem with Obama. I think he is a complete idiot and a dirtbag who brought in the Chicago slime who lives high off of the tax payers dollar. Instead of cutting back they want to raise everything to pay for their sick spending. I mean lets beat the people to death. He is a wanna be dictator who loves the sound of his own voice. I can no longer listen to him, he lost me long ago with all his self indulgent blabbing. He loves himself, sorry I do not feel the same.
I also think there is some serious dirtbags on all sides in congress. I think Bush was a boob but at least he actually likes America. To say leaders all over love Obama is total BS. There are articles all over from those countries that tell otherwise. Even if you know a few or travel, does not make you an expert on the politcal side of what they think.
He is not so loved as the left claim.
Anyway, I have my right to feel how I do, I am not ignorant because I do not agree. That is not the way to get your message across. Why is it that everyone I know on the left gets nasty all the time? Always on the attack and every one is wrong but them. I may be arrogant to them but one should practice what they preach before calling names.

#134960 by philbymon
Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:00 pm
All of us are educated, to a degree. Some more than others, & some only by what they see on TV. I have watched Fox on occasion, & found it to be informative only for opinions that I do not share. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, & the rest aren't that much better, really, but they ARE better, imho. I quite like BBC, though I don't watch it often.

The bulk of the news that I get that I find truly informative & substantial, scares the hell out of me...but I have to look...it's like a horrible accident on the freeway...I'm a rubbernecker...

#136364 by PleromaGodhead
Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:33 pm
December 21st, 2012
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#136383 by jimmydanger
Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:30 pm
Why is there always some righty telling me if I don't love Jesus to leave the country? What are they scared of? Oh yeah, the truth.

#136403 by philbymon
Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:58 pm
"Working with the American people, thats why they won the house, beause we the AMERICAN people are fed up with business as usual..."

That's funny. The Dems said the same thing in '08, when they won the House, the Senate, AND the White House! Americans REALLY hated the Rep's, just 2 yrs ago, didn't we?

"OUT OF ALL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS, ONLY FOX REPRESENTS THE CONSITUTION..."


Yeah, the right to say anything they want to, & present it as "truth."

"...FREEDOM..."

uh huh - the freedom to lie to the public, & call it fact, & our fine Supreme Court says it's okay, too, cuz, after all, the news is merely "entertainment, isn't it! Long live free speech!

"...and GOD and if you have a problem with any of those items, leave the country please, because this here, AMERICA, we bow to the GOD of LOVE and if you can't seem to do that please go to Canada or China"

Yet another of those anti-American sentiments from the uneducated, unwashed masses of moronic idealists. George Washington & Thomas Jefferson did their very best to keep that sort of thing out of American politics, sir, among others. Why can't the "modern conservative" do the same? Because there is NOTHING "conservative" about them! They are religious fanatical radicals who have no place in any secular gov't.

We've been moving in this direction ever since we elected every Rep conservative's favorite preacher president - Jimmy Carter. Reagan opened the doors of the White House to every televangelist out there, & I could see the pandering the Rep party was doing even then, in their quest to keep us divided over all the stupid petty issues, so that we'd fail to see the selling out of our country to foreign corporate interests...but you go, boy! Keep your blinders on! Keep missing how they've been cloaking it in the guise of "American values," in "god's country," & ignore what your favorite thieves do to us all.

It's gotten to the point that all I can do is laugh at these ppl...cuz if I allow my emotions free rein, I'd be just like them, although in complete opposition...

"Why do you think Glenn Beck has been Number 1 in TV ratings and in book sales since he started back in early 2008? Because he is a liar? Or because hes spreading hateful messages?"

Where the hell did you get that idea? #1? LOL

Btw, Fox does NOT represent conservative values. They spout them, but what they are FOR is profits for their owners, some of which are foreign moslems, btw, & the rest of it is purely for corporate interests, like all the OTHER "news" shows in the USA. They are certainly NOT to be trusted for REAL news, for this reason, al;one.

#136447 by Hayden King
Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:20 am
f you get your information from ANY national (state) media outlet, and for the most part local as well... well your only being taught how to think... or more appropriately not to think.
Your certainly not getting the truth or any info that is useful... at least not for you.

Even the new so called corporate/government free totally public interest TV station LINK TV consistently spews propaganda for the globalist's agenda.

Go online and dig for the truth while you still can. Dig deep. Just because it looks and sounds legit doesn't mean it is... keep digging!

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#136461 by Dewy
Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:39 am
how could they be bias in their own show? Doesn't make any sence.


For one how can you graduate high school and misspell "Sense"... how can you have a spell checker on your browser and misspell... never mind, next point.

They are biased on their own show because they only present THEIR view point... do you even know what biased means?


You see, in America, you have the freedom to say what you think and if what you are thinking rings true with many many people, well, you got yourself a Job! And a high paying one at that.

Yeah, its called Capitalism... i.e. you can sell soda's that make people fat and get filthy rich no matter how many people die of obesity. You say if your thoughts "Ring True" not have truth in them.

I love how people "understand" Glenn and his ilk are not news casters and still think they are telling the truth and not polishing a turd and selling it as chocolate. Doesn't matter, they are eating it up and buying more.

BUT i do know this country was founded as a REPUBLIC and NOT a democrazy.

Really? We'll ignore your misspelling of democracy for a second and look it up.
Republicans and other democracy detractors point to the U.S. Constitution and bits of history, and say, "See, the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution gave us a Republic. They believed democracies were dangerous and unworkable."

On that, they are partly right, but they fail to mention that democracies and republics overlap. They are not opposites. And they fail to account for the history of American government since 1788, much less the debates that took place in America prior to 1788, when the U.S. Constitution was substituted for the Articles of Confederation.

Democracy means rule of the people. The two most common forms of democracy are direct democracy and representative democracy. In direct democracy everyone takes part in making a decision, as in a town meeting or a referendum. The specific rules may vary: perhaps everyone must agree, perhaps there must be consensus, perhaps a mere majority is required to make a decision. The other, better known form of democracy is a representative democracy. People elect representative to make decisions or laws. Again, specifics vary greatly.

http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html
So who needs to go back to school?

Again, I am SHAMAN, it is my DUTY to understand my reality

WHA?! Never mind... You need to have another mushroom and go back to your Fox programming.

ONLY FOX REPRESENTS THE CONSITUTION, FREEDOM, and GOD and if you have a problem with any of those items, leave the country please, because this here, AMERICA, we bow to the GOD of LOVE and if you can't seem to do that please go to Canada or China

Umm no. How about the founding fathers put protections in place to keep Shaman and other religious idiots from ruining the nation. You need a lesson in Humility (All God's offer those teachings in their books, how did you miss yours?) and a lesson in history about America and freedom from religious persecution. Bow to whomever you please, but refrain from thinking its YOUR country and everyone who disagrees with you should leave.

Just curious, if you don't like us having freedom of choice, why don't you leave... maybe go to Pakistan where they have laws to execute people who Blaspheme against the local leading religion.

BBC is a lot better than most US news stations because of course, its world news, more stuff happens in the world then in say the town of hicksville, Alabama.

Sure BBC is pretty decent, no dispute there... but there are LOTS of news sources, even here in "Hicksville, Alabama" that give world news... damn sure ain't Fox. Fox gives THEIR VIEWS not World News.

Also I'm playing in a Psychedelic Post-Rock band as a Rhythem Guitarist, hit me up
Hit you up for what? What ever you are smoking? Ohh, its RHYTHM Guitarist by the way... jeez, do you even know what spell check is? Its that red line under the funny looking words. BEFORE YOU POST Right click the word with the red line under it and you get options to make you look like less of an idiot.

What is a Psychedelic Post anyway? Ohh it was the rant you made, gotcha.

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