General Music Chat

The sound man wasn't the problem with the mic dynamics, though. When she needs to sing with a lower volume, she needs to "kiss the mic," or get in as close as she can. This may have been a problem for him all along.

When singing loudly, one needs to back off the mic, then lean in for the quieter vocals, in order to keep everything at a steady volume, which, imho, is what she should be working toward.

This is but one of the things she will learn from a good vocal coach.

Looks like she has gotten some good musicians to work with, & that's a very good thing.

I'll check out the profile music later, when I have more time.

The sound man wasn't the problem with the mic dynamics, though. When she needs to sing with a lower volume, she needs to "kiss the mic," or get in as close as she can. This may have been a problem for him all along.

When singing loudly, one needs to back off the mic, then lean in for the quieter vocals, in order to keep everything at a steady volume, which, imho, is what she should be working toward.

This is but one of the things she will learn from a good vocal coach.

Looks like she has gotten some good musicians to work with, & that's a very good thing.

I'll check out the profile music later, when I have more time.

Thanks, Phil. I'll mention it to her.

Well I just checked it out...first off...the girl in the picture and the girl that was singing don't even look the same. Struck me as odd.

It's not a bad song, it just reminds me of every other strum, strum, strum tune that's out there. Her voice is pretty good, but she's better when not trying to play the guitar...that's the guitar player's job that really wasn't doing that much.

I wouldn't call it country as much as a crossover like Alanis Morrisette and her voice has that certain kind of character at times. Other than this, I really don't know what else to say to remain in a positive light.

I am grumpy, pragmatic, realistic and hardworking.

And I detest country music..really.

Not sure what you were listening to, but my daughter's genre is not country....it's pop/alternative, although a couple of her songs could be considered "country-pop cross-over" - although that wasn't intentional.

But I tried to be honest with you and somewhat positive.

EPIC FAIL.

Bitterness? LOL I am always bitter until I am done doing what I am to do.
I am bitter on the way up. I am bitter as I wait to play. I am bitter halfway through. I am bitter wheeling and dealing with scum owners. I am bitter as I negotiate with sound guys who look like they'd rather be drinking it up. I'm bitter as my stomach churns AGAIN!

I sit on it, because I know no one wants to hear it.

BUT when you act the fool, you get the deluge.
It's just like Nickelodeon, lady. DO NOT PULL THE ROPE OR STAND ON THE GREEN X.

Do I need a hug?

Do you need a left jab? lol

Oh and remember she only wants constructive criticisms (reads no negative remarks).

Maam, I sincerely hope your pride and joy does well in Music but it's filled with ups and downs.
Are you sure you and she can handle the bad as well as the good?

It takes a thick skin and not just your outer adipose layering.
If that was the case, we'd have plenty of singing walrus.

Resist pulling the rope, lady. You get much more with sugar than you ever will with vinegar

Think what you want, Capt, because you've lost your credibility as an "expert" as far as I'm concerned. Evidently I pushed your button by simplying titling my thread the way I did. I assumed any criticism was negative....whether constructive or otherwise. It's certainly the opposite of a compliment....so I was, in fact, interested in both. BUT not interested in pure hatefulness just for the sake of it.

For the record, my daughter has experienced a ton of criticism in her brief career and handles it far better than I do. This is a new solo project for her after spending the past 2.5 years in a tribute band that she started at age 13. That band released 2 albums and had more critics than fans, but still managed over 1 million hits on myspace, a video aired on MTV's TRL, and featured on ABC's Nightline, People Magazine, Cosmo Girl and other publications, including internationally.

Her new manager/producer is also her bass player and has played in two bands signed with major labels in the first half of this decade, and served as tour manager for another successful rock band. He's more excited about working with Chandler than with ANY of previous projects.

Sorry you brought out the "inner momma tiger". Yes, I'm proud of my daughter, but this is her chosen career path....not mine. I'm just trying to help and be supportive.

Well I just checked it out...first off...the girl in the picture and the girl that was singing don't even look the same. Struck me as odd.

It's not a bad song, it just reminds me of every other strum, strum, strum tune that's out there. Her voice is pretty good, but she's better when not trying to play the guitar...that's the guitar player's job that really wasn't doing that much.

I wouldn't call it country as much as a crossover like Alanis Morrisette and her voice has that certain kind of character at times. Other than this, I really don't know what else to say to remain in a positive light.

It's the same girl...her hair has just grown longer and she's put on some weight....that she is now struggling to lose.

Well I just checked it out...first off...the girl in the picture and the girl that was singing don't even look the same. Struck me as odd.

It's not a bad song, it just reminds me of every other strum, strum, strum tune that's out there. Her voice is pretty good, but she's better when not trying to play the guitar...that's the guitar player's job that really wasn't doing that much.

I wouldn't call it country as much as a crossover like Alanis Morrisette and her voice has that certain kind of character at times. Other than this, I really don't know what else to say to remain in a positive light.

She could definitely use some guitar lessons. She's only been playing for less than 2 years.

I checked it out, was listeni.....zzzzzzzzz Sorry! Brought out the narcaleptic in me again, don't know why that hapen....zzzzzzzzz
Sh*t and again.. gotta see a doctor about thi..zzzzzzz

I checked it out, was listeni.....zzzzzzzzz Sorry! Brought out the narcaleptic in me again, don't know why that hapen....zzzzzzzzz
Sh*t and again.. gotta see a doctor about thi..zzzzzzz

LOL........guess it's not your favorite genre either? Haha!

I think at her young age she shows promise both as a vocalist and as a songwriter. Her sound live was muddy and unclear vocally. This makes for a poor sounding demo, which may/may not be the band's fault, but also the sound engineers. This can be corrected by early sound checks b4
the shows and have the manager/bassist listen out front with the sound man by the board with her voice accapello first then again with rythym instruments added to the mix. The first impresson with the first song listened to by a new listener (including the critique monsters on this site)
remember is a lasting one.

Good Luck Mom In Your Future Endeavors With Your Daughter's Music Career.

El' Peno'

Mom of Chandler,

The song-selection is pretty much the same as everything out there in popdom, so in terms of potential for making it, her song selection and delivery are not going to put her above the rest.

She has a great voice, and the music production on the samples on your profile sound good to me, but the ingredients for success are missing.

1. Songs that aren't old-hat - people have to buy your album in order to get the sound they want.

2. Artist talent - they need someone who delivers the sound in a non-ordinary way - again, they need you to sing it or they're not going to get "that sound/passion/persona/presence".

What I heard on your profile isn't bad - quite good actually - it's just that I can turn to any pop-station and the get the same thing, with a slight twist that differentiates each one by just a smidgeon.

Now, add a rubber chicken squeek toy to the mix, and then maybe you'll get my attention!

Best to ya.
Chris

Listening to "Solo" - Nice enough Cyrus-type of melody. Well produced, I must say.

I still maintain that she needs to be exposed to more music. I remember saying something like that when we were talking before. She's in danger of becoming too predictable, & she needs to be shaken up a bit, imho.

She's very good at what she does. Don't get me wrong on that, but she could easily become pigeon-holed in an area where she cannot escape, & fans are fickle as audience tastes change. She needs more education in music, especially in the area of other styles.

Get her to do something bluesy, or funky, or progressive. These songs are all coming from her heart, I'm sure, but she is going to need a larger musical vocabulary rather soon, to keep from becoming labelled a Cyrus-clone or somesuch.

I know that she's still very young, but by getting her to push herself outside her comfort zone, she'll be forced to expand both her song-writing AND her vocal skills.

Vocally, she seems to stay in one register almost exclusively, save for her falsetto (which comes across as being weak when she doesn't use the mic properly - sorry to keep mentioning that, but it's so very important!). I'd like to hear her really belt something out loud, or give me a few high notes that weren't falsetto, with full power, or give a little rasp or growl in something, just to show that she can, if for no other reason. Gimme some real emotion, rather than the prettiness, ya know? Sometimes the way the note is delivered is much more important than even being in key. (I'm sure that some ppl will argue against that thought, but I'll stand by it.)

I realize that I've only heard a few tunes from her. Maybe she's already doing all that, but I'm not seeing it so far, & I'd hate to see her become a one-trick pony.

She didn't write the bass line...

Don't worry. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

A bass line is not copyrighted, unless it is a solo work.

Yes, I Concur-

Only The Vocal Melody and Song Lyrics are publishable royalties under ASCAP, SESAC and BMI and copywriteable. Every other composition part bass lines, drum riffs, guitar leads etc...) fall only under licensing royalties when performed.

EL Peno'

Hey Jalopeno! How ya been?

Yeah, you can't copyright chord progressions or bass lines or drum riffs.

HOWDY M.O.C.N.

I seem to be suffering dejavu.
Have we been here before ??

I also my be suffering oldtimers disease.
Are these new / different recordings??

She has a pleasant voice though the style really does not reach out and grab me.

I have to wonder if she took FOREVERMORE sang it with some gravel in her voice and some more emotion if it would not fair better as a ROCK tune ??

At any rate: Best wishes to her and yourself.