General Music Chat

In the last two months, I've actually landed in a development psycho phase - I'm coming up with medleys and melodies, rhythms, bass lines, even vocal lines, and one song that has transformed into an "epic" ( think "the wall") collusion of a repetitive, yet expansive melody that has the strength to carry over an entire concept album..

I've been just recording bits and stuff as fast as possible, without being able to find the time to develop any of it (band is working on originals too, which is part of it..)

I've NEVER had so much pouring out of me at once, it's a rather exhilarating feeling that I thought I would share. I put 60 minutes onto tape to listen in the car, assuming I'd want to scrap most of it after listening to it, yet, I just found myself singing vocal lines 8 different ways, over and over and expanding on everything. I'm addicted. I got enough work with putting things together to fill the next 10 years I think.

What a feeling.

It really IS another day in paradise!

I go thru that at times myself, ussually when the latest has broken up with me!

Its good that you are recording it. Ive gotten a little stlae myself lately, but it will come back Im sure!

60 minutes of music recorded already? Phew! That's awesome man. No small feat to write that much and love it all!

I'm jealous of your current creative outpouring. Keep on rocking.

Anywhere in particular you draw the inspiration from or has it just sort of struck you as of late?

Yes. Call it blood, call it great, Glad that creativity is reconstructing itself even if it is in such a small way. You're ok Kramer.

Each day just one more step.

Great for your Kramer

Haven't had that muse in a few years, Kramer. Squeeze every frikken note you can out of it!

60 minutes of music recorded already? Phew! That's awesome man. No small feat to write that much and love it all!

I'm jealous of your current creative outpouring. Keep on rocking.

Anywhere in particular you draw the inspiration from or has it just sort of struck you as of late?

actually 60 minutes of IDEAS, one is 3 measures (8 seconds long lol), I've already written a full song around the riff. Most of them are 1 minute melodies, and the one "concept" song I did 7 minutes and just got 2 hours worth of ideas from that lol.

I've always been a one-song-at-a-time guy, so this is really strange for me, but I can't seem to stop the flow (and I don't want to lol)

60 minutes of music recorded already? Phew! That's awesome man. No small feat to write that much and love it all!

I'm jealous of your current creative outpouring. Keep on rocking.

Anywhere in particular you draw the inspiration from or has it just sort of struck you as of late?

actually 60 minutes of IDEAS, one is 3 measures (8 seconds long lol), I've already written a full song around the riff. Most of them are 1 minute melodies, and the one "concept" song I did 7 minutes and just got 2 hours worth of ideas from that lol.

I've always been a one-song-at-a-time guy, so this is really strange for me, but I can't seem to stop the flow (and I don't want to lol)

Hey man, stick with whatever works for you. There's no right way to write a song.

60 minutes of ideas is still a lot of ideas. Keep at it man. With that much inspiration to work with it'll no doubt be a rad track.

How long do you think it'll end up?

Anywhere in particular you draw the inspiration from or has it just sort of struck you as of late?

I'm not really sure, there's some added stress lately, but also been some cleansing (acceptance that I can't change things like politics and religion, marriage issues), been just taking more of a "oh well" approach to things and not worrying so much.

Could also be that my left hand is stronger than it's been in 10+ years (just had carpal tunnel surgery last fall) and can play stuff I never dreamed I could play, even before I had CTS.. so my skills have shot thru the roof over the last few months. I'm hearing and feeling notes differently... better.. than I ever have. Just feels like everything musically is perfectly aligned and flowing.

Good times.

How long do you think it'll end up?

With me writing and arranging all of it, over the next 2 years, churning out maybe 50+ songs, and maybe being unhappy with about 10% of it, using my own history as a measuring stick. Although I honestly believe I'm writing better hooks now (which is why I like all of it, as it's mostly 60 minutes of hooks that I wrote/recorded)

Maybe wishful thinking, but that 60 minutes of ideas is already more than 25 unique song ideas, and I have more ideas/demos I haven't even ripped into mp3 off the recorder yet

Maybe all the PAIN you have been feeling, has been translated into creativity... into your being able to really get INSIDE your own emotions, and the release of them?

You always seem fatalistically negative about everything bad that happens, but as I always say... There is almost always something positive that can result, even from the worst tragedies in life!

Maybe this is your positive!




I know you have a nightmare with your daughter's situation, but... I don't even have kids of my own... I may never get to have any. You have a band that seems to be working for you... My last band tried to steal all my original music, and put me out, when I wouldn't share copyright with them.... so, I don't even have a band right now.

Your life is tough. So is mine. But I can point to many positives I see in your own life. Maybe it is not as bad as it "feels". You "DO" have positives to hold onto... like this creative phase you are enjoying!

Yeah. I wrote so many songs last year it seemed like one every time I sat down at my DAW.

The bad part is that I am easily discouraged at the slightest road block Like no drums. I did record about 6 of them, but I have at least 30 more that are waiting for attention.

Glad to see it working for you too man. I've been kicking out new stuff so fast it will take a year to catch up on it. I keep telling myself I'll have my album soon. I'm glad I have something to do since work is so slow. Our cover band should be out playing again in a few weeks, and my original project is moving real good. I'm here to tell you a lot of determination will get you what you need.

And its but another day in Paradise !!!!

As much as I like the covers we do I really enjoy doing originals much better. Kramer, this is really GREAT news. Sounds like a bunch of good things coming together all at once. The best part is you're getting it recorded NOW before you forget stuff. Sounds like you have a lot of great ideas. Does your band do originals, I forget?

yeah Bob, I have 3 bands now lol, one originals/covers, the other is covers (hard rock), and the third is acoustic duo/trio covers.

Many of my ideas, I'm keeping to myself - we DO write originals together, and I certainly write stuff for that, but it's mostly indie-pop-rock, female singer.. etc.. onyl some stuff that I write fits..

My personal writing traverses ALL genres, without much sense lol.. I really let the songs write themselves as much as I just seem to filter the notes.. I'm thinking of really getting more into singing and doing a solo acoustic thing on the side. Takes a LOT of effort to sing and play though, not sure it's my calling in life.

Craig - It's not that I'm fantastically negative - it's that much like most Americans, I'm frustrated about our representatives, and that frustration has grown. It was frustration back in the 80's, more in the 90's, and then even more in the 00's.. we keep electing new people and keep getting the same results.

At what point did the french become "fantastically negative" and start stringing up the wealthy aristocrats? I feel them, I really do.. you take it in the the arse so many times.. it starts to hurt. Religion ties into that of course, as we have a bunch of zany nutbag religious leaders using their idiot-filled congregations and $$ to influence policy. I'm not talking about honest and good religious folks, I'm talking about Falwell, Wright, Olsteen, Sharpton...

THIS was not supposed to turn into a religious / political thread. but just making the point that the anger you see in my posts about life events is nothing more than myself venting, usually in topics that are already heated too; so naturally my venting seems far more angry than the reality of it all.

Back to music, I will let you know when I post some more, but .. in playing my hand close to my chest (paranoia!) I'm not posting non-copyrighted stuff anymore.. can't stand the thought of someone stealing my work !

Craig - It's not that I'm fantastically negative - it's that much like most Americans, I'm frustrated about our representatives, and that frustration has grown. It was frustration back in the 80's, more in the 90's, and then even more in the 00's..

I feel ya bro. Although the 80's were good to me, and most Americans. Finding a good paying job (or two) was child's play. Live music was still going strong. The 80's were good... for most of it anyway.

we keep electing new people and keep getting the same results.

True that!

Religion ties into that of course, as we have a bunch of zany nutbag religious leaders using their idiot-filled congregations and $$ to influence policy. I'm not talking about honest and good religious folks, I'm talking about Falwell, Wright, Olsteen, Sharpton...

I agree with you on alot of that, but "idiot filled" is not fair. Most religious Americans, are simply frightened that the values our nation held so dear, for so long, are deteriorating. They are simply going about solving it, in the wrong way... e.g. movements toward theocracy, making too big an issue out of whether it says "God" on the one dollar bill, etc...

They need to realize that reaching hearts, occurs best, from the bottom up, not the top down. You can legislate "some" morality "Don't Murder or Steal" etc... but they seem to believe you can change a heart, by passing a law. If they were to spend all those energies and finances, SERVING THE NEEDY, and WITNESSING ABOUT THEIR FAITH, the hard way... heart to heart, then passing laws would be unecessary. People's conscience's would get stronger, they would stop themselves from acts that harm themselves and others, rather than waiting on the court system to do it.

They are good people, who don't want to see their country go to hell.

That's all.