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#98112 by gbheil
Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:18 pm
Harsh?

How about a dose of real?

I don't leave things of value in my vehicle. Why tempt fate?


Do any of you ?? ( If so where are you parked ) LOL

Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, don't expect me to cry over spilled brains.

When I do stupid sh*t, I pay the consequences. That's how it is.
I expect no less from everyone else.

#98113 by Starfish Scott
Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:19 pm
This reminds me of the story someone told about the priceless guitar in the blanket that got ripped off while they were in the music store.

"don't leave anything in your car you can't afford to replace"

#98148 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:29 pm
It seems very odd to me that everyones comments here are all about the victim being stupid and wrong. This is an example I think of how anesthetized the general public is to the level of crime that happens to those all around us at all levels of life. You know he had very tinted windows and a built in security system in the high dollar vehicle. With no merchandise in the vehicle that system was trusted to protect the vihicle itself. He did nothing wrong. He's the VICTIM. NOT the problem. We've all had something stolen from us, don't you remember how it felt. It Sucks. That gun in the mouth coment just startles me about what you claim to be and what you are REALLY all about. I think many of all of your coments here are reflective of a bigger problem that has spread across the country in regards to crime. Cant you see how you suport the criminal by blameing and jumping on the victim emmediatly and pointing out his actions that saposedly caused the crime to happen. He bought merchandise, he drove to another store, he locked it and went into another store, he came out and it was Stolen From Him Period. A wise man said to me once "Always think before you act, Dont act before you think".

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#98153 by philbymon
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:39 pm
Correction - he was driving around with $1 MILLION worth of stuff in his CAR! It wasn't all something that he'd just bought. Some of it was a christmas present.

If HE'd thought before he'd acted, he'd still have his stuff.

Yeah, it's a damned shame that you can't drive around with a $500,000 car & feel safe about what's in it. If he'd had an adequate security system activated in the damned thing, chances are this wouldn't have happened, either.

You're right. Forethought is very important!

I don't know anywhere on the planet where ppl can feel safe with thier goods hanging out.

Yes, those responsible should be caught & punished, but this guy's stupidity, or lack of forethought, if you prefer, had a LOT to do with this crime, wouldn't you say?

#98157 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:47 pm
I would say that everyone should be able expect a certain level of security and safety in this world we live in, especially in this Country. There are preditors that we exist with, that shouldn't have the advantage of having the people around their victims, suport their actions by blameing their victims instead of them. What a perk.

#98160 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:53 pm
phil you have to agree that the gun in the mouth coment was very reflective of an attitude that every man for himself is the way he lives his life. How could someone who says something like that have any compassion for others.

#98161 by CraigMaxim
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:54 pm


Klugmo, it's always good to be reminded of the things you mention.. but NO ONE here is denying that a crime took place, and that there was a real criminal, that perpetrated it.

You are also right, that society has become anesthetized to such things in some ways, but you are also a little wrong here. Until all of mankind lives like brothers and sisters, in love, as a family... then survival and self-preservation will always be a necessity in life.

HE WAS FOOLISH to leave that amount of merchandise in a vehicle unattended.

But, we aren't fools here. We read the news. Crime happens to every one of us, or someone we know. What are "WE" going to do about it? That is the question.

Knowing the risk, and the possibility for being a victim, HE WAS partly responsible for his own loss. There is a mother, near me in Jacksonville Florida, who had to identify her daughter after she was found in a GARBAGE DUMP in Georgia. She let her small daughter walk to school every morning. It was with her sister, so there were normally two of them... but still. She has the rest of her life now, to regret NOT TAKING PRECAUTIONS that may have avoided this tragedy. Like bringing her to school herself, or having a neighbor do it. I DO blame the mother, as well as the criminal. I also blame the city of Jacksonville, who in cost saving measures, stopped transporting kids who live within ONE MILE of their schools. ONE MILE IS A LONG DAMN WALK when you are a child, and ALOT can happen.

How do you feel about adults who DO NOT put safety locks on their guns, or lock them in gun cabinets, and their kid, against parental instructions, go get the gun and shoot themselves or someone else? Is the parent partly responsible, even though it was the teenager that shot the firearm?

It is the actions of the criminals that deserve the most scorn.

But seriously... is it really wrong to call someone a DUMBASS for taking what was OBVIOUSLY an ill-advised and unnecessary risk?

It's also sad when someone dies from mountain-climbing, but it is not surprising. When you take a HUGE RISK you may very well pay, a HUGE PRICE.

Usher is finding that out about now, since he had obviously forgotten what the streets in the real world are like.

#98162 by philbymon
Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:54 pm
Yes, in an ideal world, that's quite true, Klugmo. If there was a cop on every street corner watching us, this may not have happened. Or maybe there needs to be security cameras everywhere.

I dunno. Ppl are ppl, no matter where you go, & there are gonna be the reprobates, the thieves, the liars & posers & less-than-sincere, in every area you may decide to go.

It would have been a better story, though, if he were one of those gang-banger rappists, eh? Then there would have been some sort of justice about it all, even though it was a crime. LOL!

Yeah, the gun-in-the mouth coment was a lil over-the-top, I must admit. Still, I can't help but think that Usher contributed to this crime by being unprepared & neglectful of his property.

#98164 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:02 pm
I don't know the answer guys. I was just upset with the gun in the mouth thing. That upset me because of where it was coming from and previous claims I had read there.

#98166 by CraigMaxim
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:02 pm
KLUGMO wrote:phil you have to agree that the gun in the mouth coment was very reflective of an attitude that every man for himself is the way he lives his life. How could someone who says something like that have any compassion for others.



Sans suffers a little, but only a little, in the compassion department.

But don't forget that he is a NURSE and a damn good one, and he risks his own job at times, to LOOK OUT for patients, rather than the family's sometimes selfish interests, and the hospitals usually selfish interests. In putting himself at risk, to do what is RIGHT for others, he is showing a GREAT DEAL OF COMPASSION! Much more than his off-color comments would suggest.

And as to those comments....

Guess what?

They are not really directed at others, as they are to HIMSELF!

Even he doesn't realize this most of the time.

My heart tells me, that Sans is mad at SANS!

HE HAS F*CKED UP IN LIFE before, from HIS OWN STUPIDITY!

He is unconsciously JUDGING HIMSELF!

You have him pegged all wrong!

When it came down to it. He would risk his life to save yours. That heart is inside him, and when that moment of truth came, HE WOULD DO IT without batting an eye.

God knows what he is, under all the crusty exterior.

It's friggin marshmallows in there.... MELTED ONES!

:-)

#98167 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:05 pm
OK----NUFF SAID

#98168 by KLUGMO
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:09 pm
mY DOG IS STAREING AT ME AND i'VE got to go take for a run because I've neglected him all week. He's a choc lab and I am his whole world. Back later and thanks for the insight------ bro.

#98170 by CraigMaxim
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:17 pm
KLUGMO wrote:I don't know the answer guys. I was just upset with the gun in the mouth thing.



But your heart is in the right place Klugmo!

THE WORLD "IS" F*CKED UP!

AND WE DO BLAME VICTIMS SOMETIMES!


The solution is LOVE.

And the church that should BEST EMBODY that love, the Church that Christ Himself founded.... unfortunately, is often more interested in politics, and choosing the right color carpet for the sanctuary, than LOVING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS!

Ryan, was literally PRAISING 110,000 DEATHS in Haiti, as if God had done that to them. Sans makes this same mistake on occasion, and SEVERAL fundamental Christians on here, almost sang a song one day, about how terrible a burning hell is, and that others deserve their fate there, for eternity, because they made a salvation prayer, and some other poor sap, did not.

That's not love!

The Bible has been misunderstood.

God is not some psychopathic torture lover, who keeps people alive MERELY so He can then torture them FOREVER, with no possibility of it ever ending.

THAT IS SICK!!!!

It is NOT God's heart... and I BLAME FOOLISH GREEDY ministers for this amazing error in understanding, which leads so many Christians into JUDGEMENT rather than LOVE!

How can you hate people, or think they deserve their fate, when what they have done was WITHOUT GOD IN THEIR HEARTS!

How could GOD HIMSELF judge them by sending them to an eternal hell, that "burns" but doesn't "burn things up"?

Of course they sin. Of course they commit crimes. Of course they hurt others, and are selfish pricks!

What else should they be?

God is not in their hearts, showing them the difference, guiding them, filling them up with love.

Without God, it is a miracle that EVERYONE doesn't just kill each other for entertainment.

We CANNOT be surprised that people without God commit sins. We should EXPECT it, and we should NOT judge them because of it, without FIRST offering love, and trying to bring them to God's throne.

It is God's love in you, that shows each of us, how HARMFUL selfish, sinful acts are. Without that love, it is FAR MORE DIFFICULT for THEM to see that. And we get judgemental about it with them? It's wrong. And I make the same mistake too often.

It's like judging a blind person for not being able to see whether something is red or green. He's FRIGGIN' BLIND PEOPLE!!! Of course he doesn't SEE the difference between red and green. He has a DEFICIENCY, which ENSURES that reality.

Same for the LOST who are missing God in their lives.

They are SPIRITUALLY BLIND!

They cannot see either, and have a clear defect preventing them from it!

The difference is, that defect is readily curable... NOW!!!

Unlike the physically blind, who may have to wait 20 or 30 more years, before modern science and tecnology can cure their handicap.


#98172 by philbymon
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:23 pm
Is it not a sin to tempt your fellow man with your worldly goods hangin' out, free for the taking?

If not, it oughtta be!

:lol:

#98185 by CraigMaxim
Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:40 pm
philbymon wrote:Is it not a sin to tempt your fellow man with your worldly goods hangin' out, free for the taking?

If not, it oughtta be!

:lol:



LOL

And sorry everyone, but I also got a kick out of Sans asking where everybody's cars were!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!

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