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Tell you what, Craig. Have your wife talk to my childhood friend, Pam. She died when I was 15. I knew it before I was told, cuz I had a bout with some odd sorta ESP thingie that I cannot explain. It's been bugging me for nearly 40 years.

I'd like to know if I really saw what I think I saw, & if it really was as I remember it all.

I'd like to know some other stuff, too, that only Pam would know. She'll know what I'm talking about.

PROVE it to me. Gimme some facts.

Tell you what, Craig. Have your wife talk to my childhood friend, Pam. She died when I was 15.

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

We'd need to be with you. I've never seen her do this without being with someone. And from what I know about my own experiences, and also through the prism of my own beliefs and understanding, is that THEY have to be connected here still for some reason. In other words, you know, that I believe that only what is "of God" in us, returns to the source and is therefore eternal. I don't believe in "cities" of concrete or gold, or any other mineral. We join God for eternity. If someone has no unfinished business, I don't know that they are, geez... "available"? If they have broken the bounds of Earth and time and space, and they have fully migrated to another dimension, and God has no other purpose for bringing them "their Earthly personality" back, then for all I know, they remain a part of God for all eternity. The "form" we understood that person to be, may never come back again.

I'm gonna tell her about this though, and see what she has to say about it.


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knew it before I was told, cuz I had a bout with some odd sorta ESP thingie that I cannot explain. It's been bugging me for nearly 40 years.

So ESP is real... just not surviving death?

You know that sounds silly, right?

Should I third degree you for evidence as well?

I'd like to know if I really saw what I think I saw, & if it really was as I remember it all.

I don't think she can do something like that, when this is not a family relationship, or something connected in love, that would last... 40 years, you said?

But if you had foreknowledge of her death, what is the problem? Are you thinking you had a false memory? That you made-up "knowing before" unconsciously or something?

PROVE it to me. Gimme some facts.

You don't deal well in facts for this kind of thing though.

You will make up anything, follow any path... ANYTHING ELSE, but that there is truly a life after this life.

I'm being really sincere with you, and intending no offense at all. I just really am afraid that NOTHING will satisfy you, when you have your mind made up NOT TO ACCEPT IT.

You challenged me on alot of things I have said and claims I have made... hell... almost everything I have ever said, you challenged me on. When I talked about having been interviewed by the major media, a book written about my life, and so many other things... you asked for proof. I provided the proof, then you said you wouldn't bother wasting your time to check. It took me quite awhile to run down all those links, and then you just blew it off, and said you didn't care to examine the proof.

And when you made me out to be ridiculous, when I told you that I have a gift, for some reason, for looking at pictures of people and often, knowing alot about them, just from a picture... You dismissed that as foolishness too. And then I did just that for a new member here, from a state I have never been to. And in fact, this may mean nothing to you, but dumbass that I am, I'll say it anyway... "I actually thought to myself..."I'm taking a HUGE risk if I post all this info on this guy, because 1) some people lie to THEMSELVES. And he could say it wasn't true, just because he really didn't believe some of it was true about himself, and... 2) some people would not like a stranger hitting that close to home, and I thought... he could just say it wasn't true, because he wouldn't want to be that personal, on a forum, where he doesn't know anyone.

But the minute I thought those things... God told me not to worry. That this guy was going to be honest about himself.

I TRUSTED GOD PHIL.

This probably seems ridiculous to you, but step outside your predetermined ideas for a moment. Just a moment. This right here... is one of the reasons that living a more spiritually oriented life is so valuable. In the first place, how could I know that much stuff about someone on the other side of the country, whom I've never met? This is a spiritual thing going on. Then secondly, I decided not to post it, because it was too risky for the reasons I mentioned. If this person were to deny that any of those things applied to him, how would that look? It doesn't matter if I look like a fool personally, but what if that was all the evidence you (or someone else) needed, to continue to deny that there is a God, or an after life, that we are spiritual beings.... I would be CRUSHED if God were to show me one day, that the best chance you had, of finding a more spiritual nature, believing in an afterlife, etc... was ruined by ME!!! Do you know what a burden that would be? The responsibility that would carry?

So, I wasn;t going to post it.

God told me... "Don't worry... He'll tell the truth"

AND I BELIEVED WHAT GOD TOLD ME!

Now, the point here, is not how I look, or that I had to prove something to you right now for some unknown reason... But Phil... If -IF- God is real, and AVAILABLE, and really does communicated with us... Do you know how much easier life is, just from that alone? That you have proven to yourself that THERE IS some higher force... WITH A PLAN!!! And he can warn you of dangers, or tell you to go to a certain place, and you find out there were all these opportunities there... or you can simply be comforted, that you have a home with a being of perfect love... no matter what happens in this world... you know that there is a reason for it, and that this world is a blink of an eye, and an eternity surrounded by love, would be sufficient reward, for ANYTHING this short lifespan has to dish out at us.

Just to know there is a reason.

It's not that I am proselytizing, because I don't have a religion to give you a sign-up card for. But yes, in my heart of hearts, I REALLY do want those who do not have these things, to be able to have them if they want them. In other words, in all the suffering I have endured in life, and it's been ALOT... I am always comforted... just KNOWING... makes the journey a little easier, a little more comforting. I do want everyone to know what is available to them, that this life is more than random mutations, begun for no understandable purpose and for no particular reason.

What kind of life is that?

In any event... as He ALWAYS does... God kept His word to me, and this brother was honest, that I was pretty dead on, and had hit it right.

And then Mary.

I don't know why I had a vision of her at that funeral, But I did. And she confirmed the details of it.

I have already shared a few others here too, like my wife talking to my uncle, and my aunt confirming every detail, and even confirming one particular detail that NO ONE BUT MY AUNT and HER HUSBAND KNEW! My aunt did not tell my wife she had given her husband a box recently... My uncle told her that. He was the only OTHER person that knew. He watched my aunt, put it under his body. She confirmed these things, and filled in the details, of what my uncle meant by "tell her thank you, for the box!"

Yes, you weren't there to see that one.

But you saw the picture one. And you saw the funeral one.

You weren't there, but you read the testimonies.

You know that I have never met either of those people in person.

My whole life has been this way Phil.

Why would God show me something to come in a funeral of people I have never met? Why would He tell me to go ahead and post the picture comments, and promise me that that brother would be honest about himself, and ADMIT and POST THAT????

Could it be that God wants VERY MUCH for people here, to know how REAL He is, and that he cares enough, to be involved here, and that he hopes everyone will believe and call to him, and develop a relationship with Him, if one is lacking, or else strengthen one even stronger?

I have a strong heart for you.

In spite of all you have said to me, and sometimes really really offensively personally, degrading me publicly.

What I want you to know above all else is... I'm not THAT good of a person Phil. I love you in spite of all that, though you want nothing to do with it, because HE LOVES YOU.

I feel His love for you.

It's what made me keep trying.

I would have given up otherwise.

God told me about you a very long time ago. That he's been after you for a long long while, and you've wanted nothing to do with it.

But it's made you cynical and angry, and it ruins the relationships in your life, as a result. There's something in your past, that you are sooooo angry about, something about YOU, that you won't leave that door open long enough. You toy with it, but then stop yourself cold. It never lasts long, and you are back to business as usual.

God told me He forgives you (I mean JUST NOW) and Loves you. Not because you rejected him, but something else... something worse.

You don't think you are worthy, but He says you are.

Forgive yourself.

Forgive others.

Let God in.

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Well, you didn't ream me yet for all that, so...


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I spoke to my wife about your friend Pam.

It was kind of weird, cause I wondered if you were playing a game, setting me up or something, but when I told her what you said, and I got to this part... "He said it's been bothering him for 40 years..."

We both felt chills go through us at the same time.

So, I think you're being honest and there's something really sad here.

She said she really needs to know the person usually, and even then, she can't promise anything, because if the person wasn't close to the deceased, or if they are closed off to the possiility of contact, she says that can affect whether anyone is around them. She said she really needs to know the person a little, and even then, she has to "open herself up" which she says makes her physically ill sometimes.

I asked her if it would help if she talked to you on the phone, and whether she would be willing to do that.

She said she would.

Do you want me to send you our number?

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Sure, Craig. I never said that there isn't life after death or that ppl cannot communicate with them, though, for the record. I just find it suspicious that you have visions & your wife is a medium os something, when I haven't heard a prediction yet.

Sure, Craig. I never said that there isn't life after death or that ppl cannot communicate with them, though, for the record.

I don't recall you "saying" that, but it seems like you challenge the concept unmercifully. It's good to test things, but seriously, you have seen some pretty heady stuff happening, and I have shared some a few major ones, some of which have no real rational explanation, other than the conclusion that THER IS something beyond, and WE CAN "sometimes" even communicate with a spirit which has transcended this life.

Like the way you INSIST that something IS NOT A FACT, although you were wise enough (if I remember) not to "SAY" those words explicitly, but instead to say... "You cannot SAY that it is fact" Which is the logical position.

In any event, the evidence would suggest quite strongly, that IT IS A FACT, with the only caveat being, whether I am being honest about what happened or not. You've "known" me for 3 years or something, and you should have a good idea by now, that I don't lie to people.

I just find it suspicious that you have visions & your wife is a medium os something, when I haven't heard a prediction yet.

My vision of Mary's funeral is a prediction ultimately. Just not an Earth shattering one.

What an Earth shattering one?

I already gave it almost a year ago...

God told me... "The world situation will deteriorate over the NEXT # YEARS with each SUCCESSIVE YEAR being worse than the one before it. There will be MASSIVE deaths worldwide, from wars, from disease, from natural disasters."

Coincidentally, or perhaps not, this goes all the way to 2012, which is three years from when I received that revelation.

When this year started out, 2010, everyone seemed so positive, but I knew what God told me, and I believe THAT over what things "look like" for the moment.

Already there have been an escalation of terrorist attacks in in the Middle East and others, economic news is taking a turn for the worst again (employment) and we started off the year with an Earthquake in Haiti that has killed as many as 50,000 people. There was alot of other things that have occurred already, and it is only January.

It will turn as the year progresses.

We are about to enter VERY DARK days, over the next 3 years.

There's your prediction.

Wait and watch, and we'll see.

Send me an email to:

craigmaxim AT yahoo DOT com

And I will send you our number, or else go ahead and leave yours in the email.

We are going out of town to Augusta this weekend, and I think we don't get cell phone coverage there, so it may have to be TONIGHT after 10pm when she calls, or else MON, TUE, etc... sometime.

Let me know the best day or time for you brother.

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This is, by definition, bad soap opera stuff albeit interesting. lol

How come psychics aren't all millionaires? Lotto? Horses? Vegas?

I did go and actually had a sit down with George Anderson.... the things he said about members of my family were spot on... but didn't really help me much.... would've like some helpful personal advice but he only speaks to dead people...

How come psychics aren't all millionaires? Lotto? Horses? Vegas?

I've actually made that same point, maybe 12 or 15 years ago on a newsgroup, and some people actually ended up "cut and pasting" by diatribe AGAINST psychics (in general) and posting them on psychic newsgroups.

LOL

My main argument however, was NOT that is was IMPOSSIBLE, but that it was not regular or controllable, otherwise, as you rightly pointed out, why not just hit the lottery every day, and help people with the BILLIONS of dollars you could accumulate! I also pointed out, that there would be NO MORE MYSTERIES about people who lived in the past... "Who really killed Marilyn Monroe" or no "Missing Children" because the best psychics could simply talk to the dead people, and ASK THEM who killed them... where some evidence was, etc... ALL CRIMES SOLVED!


In the decade or two since, what I have discovered is that, I am right, that it is not PREDICTABLE or CONSISTENT, because of the reasons I just mentioned above.

BUT IT DOES HAPPEN!

I already KNEW this, because I myself, have some limited abilities that would be referred to as psychic in nature, although I personally believe, that GOD allows me those insights and gifts.

But as I ALWAYS say to you guys... I am not MARRIED to ANY position I hold, and for years, I have looked for any evidence that my own occasional insights were explained some other way.

In other words, it is OBVIOUS that some psychics are CON ARTISTS or People Readers and have no real psychic ability, so I was always on the hunt, if possible, to disprove this... Particularly since at that time, I had never personally talked to anyone who was dead, that I was aware of! LOL

But after marrying my wife, and her revealing to me later, that she had this gift (she thinks it's more of a curse) that changed ALOT for me. This is my wife... I know everything about her... I HAVE BEEN THERE when she has done this for people's family members.

There is NO DOUBT in my mind WHATSOEVER that this is REAL!

But you have to be cautious.

People pray on bereaved loved ones for financial gain.

I did go and actually had a sit down with George Anderson.... the things he said about members of my family were spot on... but didn't really help me much.... would've like some helpful personal advice but he only speaks to dead people...

LOL


But, seriously, that is how I would understand the main purpose to be. When loved ones pass on, they are CONNECTED to us still, from love, or maybe even other powerful emotions. Usually a relationship has to exist and some unfinished business, for them to remain connected HERE in the physical world, rather than just immediately transcend the Earthly bonds, and migrate to a completely spiritual existence, where the spirit rejoins THE SOURCE - Which is God, or course.

Police agencies know it is not bullsh*t however.

A VAST number of policing agencies use psychics... real ones, on a regular basis. It is much more common than we realize, and they do not always publicize that they do this... and generally the psychics, have no problem with this, because they are usually REALLY there to be of service, and find a missing child, or sadly, usually a body.

Philby, your experience was probably real,pretty scary ,huh.
How did this thread get so far off track?
anyway,BOSTON ROCKS.

I really hate debating religion.

It's an unfair debate on the best of days-

I can cite proof needed, but you can cite that you spoke to dead people and had a conversation with god... I can ask for a tape recording, but you can claim there will be nothing on it but your own voice because god wont reveal himself to me (or anyone but you)

I can question why there is so much suffering. but you can cite that god's plans are bigger than me...

Bigger than my self, town, state, country, planet, even.. no problem is so huge, including the total destruction of the planet by humans, and/or total destruction of each other, that god needs to bother revealing his "plan" to me, nor anyone else, regardless of their perceived importance is HIS grand scheme.

Forget the paradox that the serial killer was part of god's plan too, was created to do that job, and for doing what he was programmed, pre-destined to do, he gets an eternity of damnation in hell. Oh wait, that's free will...But wait, if he chooses not to kill, god has to create a new serial killer or an earthquake or something.. So does that mean we should just look the other way with Haiti, let them all suffer and die, as it's gods will? What a paradox.. oh wait, no it's not.. because your next argument is that humans are only gods image, and incapable of understanding the complexity of HIS actions. Back to circular paradoxes...

I can't even question the sanity of someone who claims to talk to god, because it's considered blasphemy- And since I can't question the conversation, I can't question the end result, for instance that GWB was told by god that Iraq had WMD's...

Look where that conversation got us-

Am I to believe that god is a bitter child with a magnifying glass playing games and frying us like ants? Did he pull the ultimate prank on us by giving us GWB for 8 idiot-filled years, resulting in pretty much the entire world hating our country, increased (possibly permanent) war, terror, fear...

I look around and all I see is followers, people who follow GWB, follow these televangelists, follow local clergy who are told by their superiors what their agenda is, and how to string the congregation along. People who are taught to argue in circles, argue the impossible, even though it's scientifically improbable, and the more obvious answer is shunned, and historically mocked and tortured.

Yeah, how exactly can I argue with that?

I could use your own arguments, of course, to try and convince you that an invisible diety exists and wants me to rape 5 year old children, and use all the same approaches, but wow, wouldn't you all consider me insane.. yet I'm just expected to believe that your god is the right one, or his god, or her god, wait.. we have over 1000 gods world-wide.. how do you know yours is the correct one? Oh yeah, cause he told you so...

Really, how can I possibly mount an honest debate against this logic. That's why it's called circular- because you get to point C and always revert back to point A, there's no way to derail the logic, even though a circular argument can be completely false.

Kramer,

Sadly, I don't think you have read an entire post of anything I have shared on here about God or Religion.

I'll just repeat one point only:

There are bad people in the world, because of free will. They choose to hurt others. But there are good people in the world, because of free will too! They CHOOSE to be good to others.

If God created you WITHOUT free will...

You would be a robot.

Do you REAAAAALLLY wish God had created you to be a robot, rather than a person?

Please answer that.

I've pretty much stayed out of this one but.

On the subject of psychics. Though I do believe we get glimpses of future and past AKA premonitions. I believe it to be the function of universal energy and our truly wondrous brain. Luminous beings are we.
Speaking with the dead ??
Communing with demons bent on misleading Gods children from the light.
If you are fool enough to open that door, don't be surprised what enters in.

If God created you WITHOUT free will...

You would be a robot.

Do you REAAAAALLLY wish God had created you to be a robot, rather than a person?

Please answer that.

I can't answer that simply because you aren't debating by the same rules. I thought I had stated that pretty clearly in my last post.

If it was arguable, or winnable, mankind wouldn't have 4000+ years of intolerance, bigotry, torture, and war to show for it.

I did read your posts that responded to me, but I haven't read every post, simply because you are way too long-winded for me. I think it might be best to just move on.. I keep telling myself not to get involved with these topics...

If it was arguable, or winnable, mankind wouldn't have 4000+ years of intolerance, bigotry, torture, and war to show for it.


Hear hear !!


Well struck.

This pearl of simple wisdom holds so true with most any discussion in the realms of religion and politics.

which is why I get so mad at myself for getting sucked into these discussions.