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#578 by j88ATL
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:41 pm
So, what's up with this. I heard that the government was stopping all the p2p share sites like Morpheus, bearshare and all of them. when does that take affect??? that sucks, no more free music. Does anyone know of any alternate sites to download free music?
#579 by rhart1817
Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:52 pm
The court ruling said that Bear Share and others can be sued for infringement even though copyrighted files don't reside on the servers of the networks themselves. Remember Napster when they got shut down? The line was drawn against them because the music was on their servers. It looks like the line has been moved. The next questions is, will labels or bands sue directly, and if so, how heavy will they come down on all networks?

File sharing will not end, because the smaller bands with more talent want their music shared and heard. This might get rid of the "top 40" people, so this is actually good news for the younger less seen talent if they want to be heard.

I wonder how many of us try to get our music heard on file-sharing sites?
#580 by j88ATL
Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:22 pm
Looks like we all better be downloading like crazy while we still can. that sucks.

#581 by RMORIALLI
Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:45 am
I'm sorry guys and gals, but I totally disagree with sharing music like this. Sure, if you are a new band and want to get your music out there to be heard it is a great thing and we definitely need it for that........but what about when it starts cutting severely into your profits when you have a successful CD? I for one do not want to lose a dime because of file sharing or anything else. The music world is far too fickle to lose any money whatsoever. You may be on top this week,and next week be a memory..............it happens.......it's called "One Hit Wonders".

Lets face it...........if we DO make it, we will need every penny we make. I personally would sue if I were losing thousands of dollars per week because of it, and I think that all of you would too. It's easy to say that you wouldn't sue, but when it becomes your money that is being lost, you will change your mind and quick!

I would be willing to donate a certain number of free copies to be shared AFTER I reached a certain amount of profit off of the CD for myself and the rest of the band, and I think that would be perfectly fair to the audience. It would also create a new type of file sharing where you have to be one of the lucky ones to get a free copy........competition is good!

I am all for the whole world hearing my music, but on the radio............NOT from a pirated or shared file!


Ricco

#1540 by Formidablefoe
Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:58 pm
Well, the internet is kindaof crazy. I mean, there's no such thing as just handing in an application for work upfront anymore.

Everything's now on computer hence, internet.

About sharing music, I use to know a downloading program that takes music from the internet and saves those files no problem.

You do what you gotta do anyway

#1547 by Guest
Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:34 pm
Try "LIMEWIRE" :D

#1687 by MatthewsMusic
Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:18 pm
That's what I was going to say, Limewire still works great.

#2645 by Irminsul
Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:09 pm
I used to hold your view, RMORIALLI, but I've changed my mind on this. Mostly for pragmatic reasons.

No matter what we do, our original music/recordings are going to get out there (on the net). It's just inevitable. The trick is to get as much return to the artist as possible in the process, and that's why I agree with the copyright infringement laws in general. But, my personal experience is that the mp3's I put out for free download actually HELP my sales. I've had people order my CD's precisely because they stumbled upon a free mp3 of mine and wanted to hear more. Had that freebie not been out there, that's one sale I'd not have. It's a sum gain.

And then you have the industry giants issue. Look, the artist gets an infintessimaly small amount for any of their recordings sold - the vast majority going to production and the huge profit margins of the executives. When you see impassioned please about the evil of free music on the net, more likely than not it is a series of spread memes by the large companies who do not want one penny of their bloated returns held from their palms. It's not because of the artists' fortunes, but they will sure use that to appeal to other artists. Well, I call bullshit on them. When they can prove they have restructured album revenue in favor of the artist for once, I'll reassess my view on that one.

I appreciate you sharing your view on this, as I believe it is quite the timely topic for any musician selling their music.

#4388 by Stax
Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:26 am
I agree, Irminsul. Another point is that if I went to Wal-Mart and found, say, an old B.B. King album. How much of the 3.2 cents he would have gotten paid from that sale in 1974 (probably only up to 1977), how much would the artist get today? Answer: NADA. A bunch of suits get it and then some. Lars had WAY too many conversations with suits to actually believe that D/L-ing his music would have any kind of negative effect on the $teamroller that was/is Metallica, and I believe that if he hadn't gone that outspoken route, from that point on Metallica would have put out better stuff that played to my ears and my mind rather than my wallet. Besides, I make music that I enjoy making and intend it to be enjoyed and valued the way I enjoy and value other musician's stuff - Being respected for my passion and creativity is worth so much more, and way more satisfying than the paycheck I may compromise my talents to get.
#6857 by SDavis22
Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:37 am
j88ATL wrote:So, what's up with this. I heard that the government was stopping all the p2p share sites like Morpheus, bearshare and all of them. when does that take affect??? that sucks, no more free music. Does anyone know of any alternate sites to download free music?


If you want to make money as a musician then obviously downloading music for free is a bad thing.

But like Bob Dylan said, 'Who cares if people are downloading music for free, none of it's worth anything anyway.'

I wouldn't give a cent to these 'this is why I'm hot' idiots... (if you haven't heard it, it's yet another shitty Pop-Rap song).

#6899 by Irminsul
Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:45 pm
Stax wrote:I agree, Irminsul. Another point is that if I went to Wal-Mart and found, say, an old B.B. King album. How much of the 3.2 cents he would have gotten paid from that sale in 1974 (probably only up to 1977), how much would the artist get today? Answer: NADA. A bunch of suits get it and then some. Lars had WAY too many conversations with suits to actually believe that D/L-ing his music would have any kind of negative effect on the $teamroller that was/is Metallica, and I believe that if he hadn't gone that outspoken route, from that point on Metallica would have put out better stuff that played to my ears and my mind rather than my wallet. Besides, I make music that I enjoy making and intend it to be enjoyed and valued the way I enjoy and value other musician's stuff - Being respected for my passion and creativity is worth so much more, and way more satisfying than the paycheck I may compromise my talents to get.


And that, my friend, is why the big music industry is posting record losses. And I say to that, GOOD. They have raped musicians for decades and now thanks to the proliferation of affordable recording technology and the Indie movement, they are crying the blues at the cash register.

May it be a long, emotive crying fit :)

#8693 by mistermikev
Fri May 18, 2007 6:41 pm
Irminsul wrote:And then you have the industry giants issue. Look, the artist gets an infintessimaly small amount for any of their recordings sold - the vast majority going to production and the huge profit margins of the executives. When you see impassioned please about the evil of free music on the net, more likely than not it is a series of spread memes by the large companies who do not want one penny of their bloated returns held from their palms. It's not because of the artists' fortunes, but they will sure use that to appeal to other artists. Well, I call bullshit on them. When they can prove they have restructured album revenue in favor of the artist for once, I'll reassess my view on that one.


-so glad someone feels like I do. same thing with ticketron...
I wish the filesharing thing would burn the whole damn system down... and it will eventually...
and you will see more and more local musicians getting the recognition they desperately deserve... and the pay.

#9210 by Bytor10464
Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:41 am
Bands who make such a big stink about file sharing are obviously not in control of their own musical output. The labels need to give more money to the artists, and leave file sharing alone, because if I like an album, I'm just as likely to buy it for the liner notes, as I am the music.....so, even if I downloaded it for free, there's STILL a reason to buy the album....

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