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#89651 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:03 pm
RhythmMan wrote:Hey, how about keeping this music site for music, instead of politics and religion?
:)



How many times has this come up?

LOL

You too Alan?

Are you scared too?

Wow!

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#89652 by Rev Mike
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:04 pm
RhythmMan wrote:Hey, how about keeping this music site for music, instead of politics and religion?
:)


What, healthcare doesn't affect musicians?

#89654 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:13 pm
I mean look...

Musicians usually feel a common bond with one another. So, it is easy to get to KNOW other musicians, and then it is INEVITABLE that we talk about OTHER THINGS, because of the friendships that develop.

Are we SERIOUSLY supposed to go...

"Hey everyone... let's go over here to this OTHER forum now, so I can get my FRIEND'S opinions of Healthcare and see how they perceive it, learn something I don't know about it, so I understand how it will affects me, etc...

Then if George Carlin comes up in that new forum, or Marijuana legalization or Religon or anything else... what happens? Are we supposed to go Forum-Jumping for EVERY "single-issue" item we discuss?

Do you think BandMix really wants people leaving here to go to other forums? The longer and therefore (more time consuming) threads, are the hard ones... politics... religions, etc... Does BandMix wants us spending all that time somewhere else, and therefore not have their ad-revenues stay up, through page views and click throughs?

It is usualy... A THREAD that should stay on topic people.

GET REAL and stop trying to CONTROL discussions here.

If you don't like a certain THREAD, then stay out of that thread.

Serioously.

This gets old.

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#89659 by Chippy
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:32 pm
How many people who have replied to this thread in fact have and pay for medical insurance?

Just wondering....

#89661 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:41 pm
Chippy wrote:How many people who have replied to this thread in fact have and pay for medical insurance?

Just wondering....



I have it... then I don't have it.... then I have it....

Currently, I DON'T have it!

And I am not sure it's worth paying for. I may need to understand the fine print of the plans my wife is about to get for us through work, but it APPEARS as if there is a $5000 MAXIMUM BENEFIT per year paid out. The damn policy costs around $4000.00 per year. What's the point? I don't see anything about Catastrophic coverage in there at all.

Maybe IT IS just a racket. All of it.

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#89663 by Rev Mike
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:44 pm
My wife gets insurance through work, My children through Chip, and I don't have it. Thank goodness marijuana heals alot of things, I have acid reflux but the expensive purple pill gives me some nasty side effects, I have a hiatal hernia, which when it acts up is quite painful, but worst of all I believe I've got a swollen prostate...at least I have all the written symptoms, but cant afford to go to the doctor to find out. A robust public option is my only hope for insurance in this economy. Entertainment dollars are being squeezed tightly in this financially downtrodden state, so its not easy in this industry. My wifes employer's insurance plan sucks and would go from 300 she pays just for her to 1100 to add me, and 1500 to add me and the kids. Thats more than half her monthly income. Real reform of healthcare would have to be the elimination of insurance companies (why do we need a middle man between our doctors and ourselves?) and the limiting of costs associated with medical practice. NOT eliminating the tests and services, just forcing the people in the business to cap their pricing, then we raise taxes on everyone's income and ta-da, everyone's insured, doctors bill the fed, and we pay 1/10th of what it costs now for the same care.

#89666 by gbheil
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:50 pm
Funny side note:

My wife has been offered another position with a different Home Health Corp. ( she's an RN as well for those who dont know already)
She has been vasilating back and forth the pros & cons of the job change.
Tonight she said:
" I feel like I'm on LET'S MAKE A DEAL with Monty Python"
I laughed my ass off. I know she meant Monty Hall, but she was a lot more accurate than she knows with the first statement.

Yep, Just like LET'S MAKE A DEAL with Monty Python!! LOL

#89669 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:56 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Funny side note:

My wife has been offered another position with a different Home Health Corp. ( she's an RN as well for those who dont know already)
She has been vasilating back and forth the pros & cons of the job change.
Tonight she said:
" I feel like I'm on LET'S MAKE A DEAL with Monty Python"
I laughed my ass off. I know she meant Monty Hall, but she was a lot more accurate than she knows with the first statement.

Yep, Just like LET'S MAKE A DEAL with Monty Python!! LOL



LMAO!

I actually trust Monty Python more with healthcare at this point!

:lol:
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#89675 by gbheil
Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:06 am
I asked a test prolific MD today why he orders so many diagnostics when he comes around.
He said "To keep the lawyers out of my pockets"
This is a root problem as much as anything.

#89723 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:49 am
sanshouheil wrote:I asked a test prolific MD today why he orders so many diagnostics when he comes around.
He said "To keep the lawyers out of my pockets"
This is a root problem as much as anything.



No doubt about that.

Tort reform should be a priority.

Instead, we're gonna be fined for NOT HAVING insurance.

Putting a gun to my head and MAKING me buy insurance was not what I had in mind when I think of "Healthcare Reform"

LOL

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#89845 by PocketGroovesGSO
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:00 pm
Rev Mike wrote:I don't know how a bill can be constitutional if it REQUIRES Americans to PURCHASE health insurance!!! We cant even force parents to vaccinate their children because that is unconstitutional, so how the hell can the government say that we HAVE to BUY insurance? Its not like a car insurance, where if you don't want to buy it you don't have to drive...this is insurance that if you don't buy it you can go to jail!!! WTF


philbymon wrote:No worries - it won't pass.


I certainly hope not. I'm still all for a universal healthcare option, similar to what Canada and England have. If that kind of system works for them, why couldn't if work for America?

#90103 by Rev Mike
Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:54 am
PocketGroovesGSO wrote:
Rev Mike wrote:I don't know how a bill can be constitutional if it REQUIRES Americans to PURCHASE health insurance!!! We cant even force parents to vaccinate their children because that is unconstitutional, so how the hell can the government say that we HAVE to BUY insurance? Its not like a car insurance, where if you don't want to buy it you don't have to drive...this is insurance that if you don't buy it you can go to jail!!! WTF


philbymon wrote:No worries - it won't pass.


I certainly hope not. I'm still all for a universal healthcare option, similar to what Canada and England have. If that kind of system works for them, why couldn't if work for America?


Unfortunately, Americans have been bred to think that its only valuable if it costs a lot of money...thats why the same pill that sells for 3 dollars in England costs 78 dollars here...thats why they force generic drug companies to keep their prices within 5-10% of the name brand, so then the name brand sets the market. It is a crime to put a price on healthcare and an absolute abomination to REQUIRE its purchase! That is literally a tax on living.

#90154 by philbymon
Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:11 pm
Well said...I note that it's a sliding scale tax, too - the sicker you are, the more you pay!

Meanwhile, they keep inventing new diseases - restless leg syndrome? LMAO & gimme a break! "Long eyelash deficiency?"

I love how these drug commercials have to spend so much time warning you of their side effects that they don't even have time to tell you what the hell the drug is FOR!

Perhaps your anti-depressant isn't working hard enough, & now you feel the blahs instead of merely depressed, so you should supplement your drugs with this new one that'll triple your nipple size, grow hair on the soles of your feet, put scales on your retinas, give you the jimmy-legs, make our ears bigger, erase your blood pressure, make your breath smell like cheese, give you hammer-toes & fingers, turn your hair purple, & give you the appearance of a leper...but you'll FEEL GREAT! DO call your doctor if you get an erection lasting more than 4 hours! I'm sure he'd like to hear about it. This isn't for pregnant or nursing women, cuz it'll turn breast milk sour & raise the alcohol content. Children using this medication can become sexually active with their bicycles. Uncontrollable giggling has occured in our control group when they observed the side effects of this drug. Loofah lip syndrome can occur. If you suddenly smell bananas, you should turn yourself in to the authorities immediately, as this is a sign that you are becoming a poisonous plant. Take care when driving, because this can affect your judgement & give you hallucinations, usually involving giant chimpanzees. Changes in puberty can occur for ppl over 50. Patients who smoke should not, as they may spontaneously combust if they are near an open flame. See your doctor if you see a 20 foot stink bug, because this can be a sign that you are devolving into a puddle of premordial slime. Shuddering lips & stuttering feet have been observed by some who take this drug, & if you should feel chilly, please put on a sweater. Your internal organs can become fused and hard as cement, so you should see your doctor regularly, to keep from becoming hard-hearted. Some patients develop 2 left feet, irritable bowels, and offensive tastes in clothing. Droopy ears, poppy eyes, cracked knuckles, and hefty lungs have been reported by some patients. A few patients have reported having REALLY opposing thumbs. In other patients, the skull takes on the dimensions of a punch bowl, so if your significant other starts to fill your head with corn chips, you should stop taking this drug immediately, & see your doctor for one of our other fine products.

#90201 by Rev Mike
Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:55 pm
Philby, I laughed all the way through that until I cried realizing it is the unfortunate truth...trade your heartburn for anal seapage anyone?

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