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#89796 by Southernboy
Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:33 pm
on Craig`s behalf I have been fighting those SOB`S now for the better part of 20 yrs. Let me tell you only good one is a dead one. I have seen our own interpiturs turn on us and plant explosive`s in trashganistan & Iraq . I`m thankfull the SOB did`nt get deployed with my old Div 4th cuz he could`a done more damage over there & Thanx to Kim the Cop his Muslim ass won`t be yelling allah Ackbar anymore. Pic up the koran read it to them we are the infadels. If you`re not Muslim or won`t convert tis their job to kill you in the name of Allah. I`m Agnostic so I could`nt really give a rat`s ass. Lost too many friends to this crap religion. There was a before Moses,Buddist`s b4 that,Dalilalma & so on.
You people want to put your hands in the arms of god KNOCK YOURSELFS OUT! Let`s talk rock-n-roll
Southernboy

#89797 by Southernboy
Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:36 pm
Craig check your profile mail & myspace bro
Southernboy

#89805 by philbymon
Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:58 pm
LOL

We have a long & fine history of applying that statement to various ppl we don't like, don't we, sb?

"The only good injun's a dead injun!" Same for gooks or Germans or Russians or illegals or what have you.

The fact remains that we are holding the countries of Iraq & Afganistan hostage until they give up to us their militant factions. We also won't go away until they decide to live as we do.

I'd be using any & all tactics against a greater power if I were in their shoes, too. What would you do if they suddenly took control of the US & forced their ways on us? Would you be more likely to follow the prescribed program, or would you fight back with your guns, your homemade bombs, & everything else you have to return your country to your own rule?

The only difference between a patriot & a terrorist is what side you're on, & if you think their attacks are unprovoked, you know nothing of the history of our relations with these ppl.

#89832 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:07 pm
Phil,

Stop painting Muslim countries as "victims".

Why aren't you in Massachusetts? Your views are more appropriate to liberal extremists, or highschool students who have no clue about world history, because they don't teach them much about it, except that... "America is bad... America is no different than any other country..."

Learn some history.

Islam has expanded worldwide primarily through VIOLENCE.

Did you look up ANY of the genocides and holocausts I mentioned, at the hands of Islamic nations?

You think that you are making a rational argument.

I would compare it to this...

"Homosexuals are no more likely to molest children than anyone else."

THAT IS RATIONAL

But your argument is this...

"Pedophiles are no more likely to molest children than anyone else."

NOT RATIONAL

Some things are the way they are BY THEIR VERY NATURE.

Read some. Learn a little more about REAL HISTORY and not the ultra-liberal recreation of it.

I've provided you plenty of information. Sorry, but you're just being stupid, and think it is actually "open mindedness" or "politically correct".

It is like having your daughter date a member of a biker gang, and thinking everyone will be nice to you, if you are nice to them.

Yeah. Good luck with that.

Some parts of the world DO NOT work that way.

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#89835 by ColorsFade
Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:13 pm
philbymon wrote:
I'd be using any & all tactics against a greater power if I were in their shoes, too. What would you do if they suddenly took control of the US & forced their ways on us? Would you be more likely to follow the prescribed program, or would you fight back with your guns, your homemade bombs, & everything else you have to return your country to your own rule?


This is the core of the problem.

As my mum used to say (and still does): treat others as you want to be treated.

This is a simple, basic human thing. It is action --> reaction. If Muslims invaded us by force and started shoving the Koran down our throats, I'd be the first guy making IED's with the hopes of inflicting enough damage that they'd just go home.

#89841 by philbymon
Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:30 pm
Ah, Craig. Keep talking. The more you say on the matter, the more obvious your racism.

You simply refuse to believe that they are capable of good.

If I looked at things as you do, not being a christian, I would automatically think that all christians are an incestuous, warlike, lying & thieving ppl who have nothing good to offer the world.

There have been no coordinated Islamic attempts to take over the world in a thousand years or so. Get a frikken GRIP, man!

Compare their genocides & holocausts with those outside their control, Craig. It's no different.

Hell, look at the views described above by sb - "The only good one is a dead one.' Our own "militant" society has used that slogan time & again, & has destroyed entire cultures, too.

But for you, the world is a very black & white place, isn't it? You're either for Craig's views or against him. There can never be any gray areas for you.

Go ahead, man. Declare war on the entire religion, you fool. I'd rather stand with them than to stand with you on that, though, & consider myself a better American, too. They have a right to exist. Leave 'em the hell alone.

I've given you quite a few examples of how we have been the instigators throughout our relations with them, but you refuse to see it as anything other than an American right, because we are always right & god is on our side & we have the power to take what we want, so we'll continue, no matter the cost to others. What a ridiculous stance!

Yeah, you & the WWF will do well to remember that this sort of diplomacy results in war, in retaliation, each & every time those tactics are used.

Take heed, ya Sgt Slaughter wannabe!

#89846 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:01 pm
HONOR KILLINGS IN AMERICA


DAUGHTER RUN OVER BY FATHER

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Noor Faleh Almaleki, 20 died yesterday in the hospital, after being run over by her run father two weeks ago. Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48 said that his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned “traditional Iraqi” value. He was unhappy with the way she dressed and how she resisted his rules, and he considered it an honor killing, authorities stated.

After the hit and run, Almaleki drove to Mexico and left his vehicle, then made his way to Mexico City to fly to Britain. He was denied entry into Britain and they put him back on a plane to the US.

Amal Edan Khalaf, 43 a friend of Noor Faleh’s was also injured in the hit and run and suffered serious injuries and is still in the hospital recovering. Peoria, Arizona police expect to change the aggravated assault charge to more severe charge now that Almaleki has died, and he will also be charged with aggravated assault charges for Khalaf’s injuries.

Khalaf admitted to running over his daughter over the weekend, according to Salt Lake’s Fox 13 Now. By his own admission, this was an intentional act and the reason was that his daughter had brought shame on him and his family," Stephanie Low a county prosecutor said. "This was an attempt at an honor killing," Fox 13 Now reported.


TWO DAUGHTERS MURDERED IN ALLEGED HONOR KILLING

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Almost a year after two teenage girls were found dead — allegedly executed by their father — in the back seat of a taxicab in Texas, the FBI is saying for the first time that the case may have been an "honor killing."

Sarah Said, 17, and her sister Amina, 18, were killed on New Year's Day, but for nine months authorities deflected questions about whether their father — the prime suspect and the subject of a nationwide manhunt — may have targeted them because of a perceived slight upon his honor.

The girls' great-aunt, Gail Gartrell, says the girls' Egyptian-born father killed them both because he felt they disgraced the family by dating non-Muslims and acting too Western, and she called the girls' murders an honor killing from the start.

But the FBI held off on calling it an honor killing until just recently, when it made Yaser Abdel Said the "featured fugitive" on its Web site.


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AN AMERICAN 'HONOR KILLING'

ON July 6, police say, a Pakistani named Chaudhry Rashid strangled his 25-year-old daughter San- deela Kanwal with a Bungee cord in her bedroom because she wanted to end her arranged marriage. This "honor killing" came not in Pakistan, but in Jonesboro, Ga. - a suburb 16 miles outside Atlanta.

At his arraignment, Rashid said through an Urdu interpreter that he was "not in the state of mind to talk because of the death of his daughter," but stated "I have done nothing wrong."

This is not the same as declaring innocence. His attorney, Tammy Long, explained, "My client is going through a difficult time. As you can imagine, he is distraught." Apparently, it takes a stronger man to murder his daughter without sentiment.

The national media has paid little attention to the story of Kanwal's murder, though most outlets found plenty of time to debate the cover of The New Yorker.

When a blonde girl goes missing, cable networks stop in their tracks - but when a Muslim woman is murdered by her father, there's not a ripple of sustained interest. Where's the outrage?

Maybe it's muted because we've grown reluctant to pass judgment on other culture's customs - but multiculturalism hits a crossroads when honor killings come to America.

The United Nations estimates that the world sees 5,000 honor killings a year - overwhelmingly in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa, but increasingly among Muslim immigrant communities in Europe.



WOMEN KILL THEIR HUSBANDS IN "HONOR KILLINGS" TOO!

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A soft-spoken Muslim woman tried to slit her Staten Island husband's throat as he slept - enraged that he made her eat pork and wear sexy skirts, officials said.

"It's time for you to die!" screamed Rabia Sarwar as she pounced on hubby Sheikh Naseem, sources said.

He woke early Wednesday to find her straddling his chest and hacking at his neck with a knife.

The burly 41-year-old, a teacher at Susan Wagner High School, overpowered the pretty petite Sarwar, 37, and grabbed the weapon.

The two have only been together for five months. For Nasseem, it was his third try after his first two marriages failed. The Pakistani-born Naseem was not a practicing Muslim but sought a traditional wife; their pairing was arranged through family friends.

"Being that he didn't do very well the first two times, he thought he would try a woman of his own culture," one of Naseem's ex-wives told the Daily News on condition that she not be identified.

"She is very soft-spoken, very low-key," the woman said. "I would not have dreamed anything like this would happen."

But authorities said she was furious that Naseem stayed so Western: "She's a very devout Muslim and she felt that he got her to marry him under false pretenses," a source said. "He doesn't really observe any of the traditions of Islam. She says he forced her to eat pork and wear short skirts."

She also claimed that his favorite author is Salman Rushdie, reviled by devout Muslims after writing the prophet-bashing "The Satanic Verses."

Sarwar was released on $25,000 bail after being arraigned yesterday on attempted murder rap charges. She claimed "months of emotional abuse and duress," sources said. Cops had no record of domestic abuse complaints against Naseem.

#89847 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:05 pm
ColorsFade wrote:
If Muslims invaded us by force and started shoving the Koran down our throats, I'd be the first guy making IED's with the hopes of inflicting enough damage that they'd just go home.



Stupidity

It's not my problem until it is.

It is your problem. Get an education.

Honor Killings are on the RISE in Europe and IN AMERICA!

You and Phil are SEXISTS, and the CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ABUSES OF WOMEN, you OVERLOOK in the name of cultural diversity.

You should be ashamed of your sexism and your stupidity.

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#89848 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:07 pm
philbymon wrote:


You simply refuse to believe that they are capable of good.



Wrong. You are lying and you know you are.

You are dishonest.

You can't win this debate on facts and logic so you lie.

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#89849 by ColorsFade
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:09 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:You and Phil are SEXISTS...


How do you figure that one?

#89851 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:18 pm
philbymon wrote:
If I looked at things as you do, not being a christian, I would automatically think that all christians are an incestuous, warlike, lying & thieving ppl who have nothing good to offer the world.

There have been no coordinated Islamic attempts to take over the world in a thousand years or so. Get a frikken GRIP, man!



Phil, you didn't read anything I wrote on this apparently.

The Bangladesh Genocide I mentioned to you was in 1971

Christians have almost been run out of Jordan, which used to have a 30% Christian population. It is now down to 6% because they are LEAVING the country, due to MURDERS and ABUSES and HONOR KILLINGS of Christians in that country.

Muslim extremism is on the RISE in Jordan, and many other places for that matter, not the other way around.



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#89852 by philbymon
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:21 pm
If I were interested enough, I'm sure I could find plenty of anti-christian propaganda out there, too, Craig, under the guise of "news."

You just keep pointing to nuts & try to get me to be convinced that they're mainstream. That's simply not the case, man. Get a GRIP!

This is just more witch-hunting BS, & yeah, they do it as much as you do.

So what?

"Apparently, it takes a stronger man to murder his daughter without sentiment."

Read that over, & tell me that someone here isn't trying to give it a personal slant. That is not a news report. It's a commentary. An opinion.

5,000 honor killings a year, huh? Okay, that's terrible. Now tell me how many sicko christians there are out there killing in the name of their god. Oh, sorry! I forgot - you have no interest in that, cuz you're an a jihad against islam!

C'mon, man! That last one doesn't even belong there! Her hubby forced her to do things contrary to her faith! Things like you do every day. That'd be tantamount to a woman's hubby forcing her sexually, if you wanna look at it that way. She was "ruined" by him. Forced into doing things against her faith by a "moderate!"

Christ on a crutch, Craig! Have you nothing better to do than look for only those examples that prove your questionable & bigotted statements about this religion?

There are nutsos in every faith, but the judeo/christian/moslem ones are the very worst in the world for this, I'll agree...as long as you lump them all together, cuz there ain't one any better than the rest when it comes to atrocity.

#89853 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:28 pm
ColorsFade wrote:
CraigMaxim wrote:You and Phil are SEXISTS...


How do you figure that one?



Because Islam is a religion that condones HONOR KILLINGS, particularly of WOMEN, and they often practice GENITAL MUTILATION of women, as a CONTROL FACTOR. Grown daughters LIVING IN AMERICA that JUST WANT TO BE LIKE NORMAL AMERICANS fear being MURDERED by their own fathers. Look at the recent Ohio case, where a church provided sanctuary for a girl who feared just that, claiming her parents threatened her with an honor killing.

The state seems to believe this is REALISTIC threat far more than you and Phil, because the judge REFEUSES to send the daughter home.

In the name of "cultural diversity" you and Phil, instead become SEXISTS, because you condone the subjugation, degredation, mutilation, imprisonment, torture and MURDER of "WOMEN", because it is their "culture" or "religion" to be that way.

Let' deny BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, so I can bash America and claim I am elevated and culturally open and aware.

It's not YOUR daughter or wife after all. Right?

Stroke your dick on the alter of political correctness all you want.

Men who condone abuse of women are PUSSIES.

Nothing more.

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#89854 by philbymon
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:30 pm
My, how the rhetoric changes when you cannot convince someone of your view, ya fascist!

You're a bigot, Craig. Admit it & let's move on, shall we?

I'm a sexist.

There, I said it - does that help?

#89858 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:40 pm
philbymon wrote:
You just keep pointing to nuts & try to get me to be convinced that they're mainstream. That's simply not the case, man. Get a GRIP!


No,,, YOU get a f*cking grip!

I have known more Muslims from different countries, on a personal level, than you will EVER KNOW. And plenty of them are your "moderates" and quite honestly, you don't know sh*t, where this subject is concerned.

I've watched Arabic TV with them, where the "news" anchor, tells MILLIONS of Arabs that Israel knew about 9/11 beforehand and never warned America about it. Their proof? There were NO JEWS in the Twin Towers when the planes hit.

THEY BELIEVE NONSENSE SUCH AS THAT.

Their Imams and News Anchors told them so. It must be true.

My friends I was with, BELIEVED THIS.

I asked them... "You don't really believe that do you?"

"Of course I do Craig... You don't understand that Israel would do anything to keep American support. They are liars and ungodly!!!! They knew this was going to happen, and they warned each other to stay out of the twin towers!!"

THIS IS IRRATIONALITY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!

Combine that with the fact that 80% of Muslims in Muslim countries are ILLITERATE. Go look up the word "Illiterate", and you have a RECIPE FOR DISASTER.

What your ivory tower ignorance does not understand, is that the "moderates" among Muslims are NOT AS MODERATE as you think.

Privately MANY OF THEM HATE AMERICA, and HATE WHAT WE STAND FOR!

They will smile in YOUR FACE Phil, and tell you they love this country, but I am telling you, that like Hasan, when it comes down to it, MORE OF THEM THAN YOU THINK... will turn, and will defend Islam first.

Of course they will.

What is American citizenship compared to ETERNAL DAMNATION IN HELL!

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