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#89286 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:17 pm
I WAS RIGHT ABOUT HASAN...

Been reading alot on this guy as alot more information is coming out finally... eyewitnesses, and this guy's own cleric, etc...

His cleric, his religious leader, has stated that Hassan confessed to his local Mosque that he... "was conflicted between his devotion to Islam and his allegiance to the U.S. military"

Other sources have stated the same now.

He had been posting on various blogs, and saying things such as, that suicde bombers are comparable to soldiers falling on grenades to protect others, because they are both "sacrificing themselves for a greater purpose" and that Americans are "agressors, and the Muslims should rise up against the agressors"

He cleared out his apartment DAYS before the shooting, and told his landlord he was being deployed on Friday (in a few days time)

Some more reports...

Major Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood terrorist shouted "Allahu Akbar!" - an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" - before opening fire on his fellow soldiers. Americans are all too familiar with this Arabic phrase, it's the same war cry that Jihadists all over the world shout before detonating their bombs.

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Soldiers who witnessed the rampage reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander.

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A cousin of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan said that he began a stricter practice of Islam after his mother died nine years ago, observing the five daily prayers and taking other aspects of the faith more seriously after a loss that affected him deeply.

"He became religious after the death of his mother. Before that he was more secular,"

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Survivors of the Fort Hood massacre described today how Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly gunned down unarmed soldiers, and then shot them again as they lay wounded on the floor.

Soldier Keara Bono survived the onslaught at Fort Hood after Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly gunned down unarmed soldiers, and then shot them again as they lay wounded on the floor.

Investigators believe more than 100 shots were fired from Hasan's gun in a matter of minutes. He was described as calm and methodical in his attack, pausing only to reload. Soldier Keara Bono survived the onslaught although she was wounded slightly in the back and grazed in the head.

Bono told "Good Morning America" today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up, praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn't believe it was real even when she felt her own blood, she said.

"Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that were bleeding," she said. That's when Bono realized that Hasan's rampage wasn't a drill.

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At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

They had not confirmed Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

Federal authorities seized Hasan's computer Friday during a search of his apartment in Killeen, Texas, said a U.S. military official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

His anger was noted by a classmate, who said Hasan ''viewed the war against terror'' as a ''war against Islam.''

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#89288 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:29 pm
Ya know, Craig, I dunno that I can take any of the news reports seriously on this guy, & I'll tell you why.

He's gonna end up the poster-boy for anti-moslem propaganda. He's the perfect example of "moslems gone wild," isn't he?

Ppl can be & are ordered to give less than truthful reports on military activities & events all the time, if we are to believe historical reports of Area 51, the crash at Roswell, Mi Lai massacre, etc etc etc.

In any case, whether it's true or not, whether you're right or wrong, your initial reactions still displayed your prejudice, Craig.

If it IS, indeed, true, then it shows how really stupid his superior officers were, more than anything else, too. What kind of IDIOT would want to redeploy a man who obviously feels so strongly for the enemy? WHY would they be so naive to think that he could be forced to act in ways that oppose his deeply-felt beliefs?

Yep, if it IS true (which I still question), this means that our military is being run in some cases by very stupid ppl. Perhaps there should be a restructuring of the military, to remove those morons from posts of any power over others, eh?

What a complete clusterf*ck, no matter what the real truth is!

While we're on this subject, how would any of us handle things if we were in his situation, where the military was doing things that we perceived were against our religion? How would we react if we were bullied by our fellow soldiers because of our religious affilliation, or our birthright?

Just something to think about...

#89291 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:40 pm
Phil,

These reports are from his family and clerics dude, and eyewitnesses. The military is NOT going to have them lie about this. If they did, it would be to lie in the OTHER DIRECTION. They don't want local "good ole" boys going to their local Mosque and shooting the place up. Plus, there are other practicing Muslims in the military.

They want this to go away.

If the shooter had been killed by ANOTHER Muslim soldier, that would have been IDEAL for them, because then you have one who is the hero to the rest of us, and it would have taken some heat off this. But as it is, it was a female off-duty cop who was the hero. She nailed his ass, and it looked like she might die at first, but she survived, and reports are, that he, the shooter was paralyzed from the shots.

She hit him like 4 times. Which is good, considering that this guy apparently shot off more than 100 rounds in a matter of almost seconds. Reports are, that he used a type of non-military handguns that are refered to on the street as "Cop Killers" because of their tremendous firepower. I haven't seen yet if anyone knows WHEN he purchased the weapons, but it is clear this was a PREMEDITATED event.

Kudos to the girl that laid him out!

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#89292 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:43 pm
Ah! So "they" will use this as yet another excuse to take away our handguns!

There's ALWAYS a hidden agenda, man!

#89293 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:45 pm
philbymon wrote:Ah! So "they" will use this as yet another excuse to take away our handguns!

There's ALWAYS a hidden agenda, man!



Yes!

I agree with you on that one.

THAT is the kind of sh*t they will use this for.

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#89295 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:50 pm
Yes, I'm a cynical, cynical man, & it helps, these days!

Ya know, I think it would be a REALLY good idea for them to pretend that he really died & went to heaven, when he wakes up. Then the thing to do would be to parade 72 scantilly-clad young women around his hospital bed, & leave him yearning to be able to move & enjoy them, but he's paralyzed...then it would show him the hell he's really earned!

#89399 by gbheil
Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:52 pm
No where in the Koran does it specify that the virgins will be female. :lol:

Best I remember from my readings years ago anyways.

Butt, then again, he may not mind.

I'll throw em my handgun when it's empty. :P

#89405 by Ryan_Strain
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:06 pm
sanshouheil wrote:No where in the Koran does it specify that the virgins will be female. :lol:


I think it was Family Guy, where the terrorist blew himself up, then he went to "Heaven" and there were 70 virgin nerds playing World of Warcraft, hahaha

#89409 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:33 pm
Actually, there is no reference to 72 virgins for a moslem warrior anywhere in the Koran. That was an offer made by some BS'ing Imam or Ayahtollah, someone much more recent. I dunno howhe came up with 72, or virgins, for that matter...

#89415 by Starfish Scott
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:39 pm
There's a tune in there, "72 virgins"..

#89421 by gbheil
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:44 pm
72 virgins with 144 testicles...... aint my idea .... of heaven.........

#89422 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:47 pm
Ah, I get it now! 72 virgins = a gross of titties!

#89447 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:21 am
I allready offered, we can piss off so many people we will be dead in a year.
#89637 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm
Sen. Joe Lieberman calls Fort Hood massacre a 'terrorist' act


Sen. Joe Lieberman called the Fort Hood massacre an act of "Islamist extremism" - even as top Army brass warned Sunday against guessing at a motive, fearing backlash against Muslim soldiers.

"There are very, very strong warning signs here that Dr. Hasan had become an Islamist extremist and, therefore, that this was a terrorist act," Lieberman (I-Conn) told Fox News on Sunday.

"If the reports that we're receiving of various statements he made, acts he took are valid, he had turned to Islamist extremism."



READ MORE HERE:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_top_army_official_fears_retaliation_on_muslim_soldiers_in_wake_of_ft_hood_massac.html

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