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#89374 by Rev Mike
Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:52 pm
Ryan_Strain wrote:
Rev Mike wrote:...nope, I'm not going anywhere...


Damn...So much for Bandmix...It's ruined


You keep making my point for me...thanks









press

#89375 by Ryan_Strain
Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:57 pm
You act like people care? You're not even saying anything! You're just sitting back saying "YOU'RE WRONG....AND YOU'RE WRONG...AND YOU'RE WRONG"

I feel really sorry for you, Mike.

Craig Maxim just owned you. Now, be a good little dog and run away with your tail between your legs.

#89376 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:02 pm
Ryan_Strain wrote:
Rev Mike wrote:Ryan, way to prove my point with your metal comment...


I've already reported you to the admins, and I suggest everyone else do it as well.



He'll just come back as Marie Antoinette.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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#89377 by Rev Mike
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:02 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:Mike,

There are plenty of Musical Artists here.

But you are merely a Bullsh*t Artist.

You make it up as you go along, when you get caught.

This was not a ruse, designed to teach us something. You are a charlatan that's all. I smelled your bullsh*t when you first came on here as a "concert promoter" remember that? Phil jumped all over me at the time, while simultaneously giving you his contact info, for the opportunity you supposedly offered.

I checked you out, and found out that you were nothing but a small time soundman/dj who gets paid $500 bucks a weekend or whatever it was, to put a small PA in a club for dance music. You had no more than 2 clubs at the time, and you were in the middle of a lawsuit with one club.

Which reminds me...

LMAO... You were also a RECORD PRODUCER then too!

AHHHHH HA HA HA HHHHHAAAAAA!!!

And I called you out for all that.

And did I read correctly, that you ripped off one of our BandMixers for $10,000 dollars? You should be in jail, not continuing to run your scams here. You have balls, I'll say that.

I had warned everyone about you then.

Now, you have realized that one of the best rip-offs of all time, is RELIGION!

“Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous, if a man really wanted to make a million dollars, he would start a religion.”
---- L. Ron Hubbard (Science Fiction Author and later Founder of Scientology)


So, you set yourself up there to, as some shaman or leader to the naive marks underneath you. One can only guess, how many of them you have tried to rip off.

You need some psychiatric help, AND some spiritual help.

Wait till you discover what you have done to your soul through all this. You are a vampire (no offense Etu ;-) )

Stop ripping people off, Stop lying to others.

Stop lying to YOURSELF.

Don't come back as President of the USA, or King of Persia.

Change your heart, and make payments to restore the $10,000 bucks you ripped off, with your false promises.

Let me tell you something, very seriously...

In this economic climate. One of your victims is just going to slash your throat next time. Seriously. Ministers are robbing banks. Real ministers with NO PREVIOUS POLICE RECORDS.

The world is chaning spiritually. Going through birth pangs.

You will find Karma enacted quicker than you ever dreamed in this climate.

Watch yourself!

.



I ripped no one off you moonie piece of sh*t. I was ripped off for 16000 dollars by my former partner in my recording studio and record label, and am currently involved in a lawsuit about that. All public record I might add. I am not spouting lies, I simply made up a story NO MORE REDICULOUS than your own, yet at least I admitted it was a story and you make my point. If you are some global god messanger, why is it you are such a f**k ing fake loser? Everything you hype about is sh*t you wrote about yourself. Nobody on this planet gives a sh*t about craig maxim more than craig maxim, and based on the teachings of Jesus, you would be one who Jesus would not know.

Keep spouting your slanderous lies about me you big f**k ing phony, and I'll keep laughing at you. I don't have any "marks" underneath me, I have shown several people what I know, but since then they go about their lives and learn on their own. Believe what you want craiggo, the fact remains, you are the one from the cult, you are the one who claims to be "globally" important to christianity (and mean it), and you are the one who is making up lies about me. I know who I am and those who know me know who I am, and it is as irrelevant as YOU what anyone on here that I don't know thinks of me. So keep spewing your godliness craig, and I'll keep enraging people with my words...funny how the two muslim extremists in NYC screaming their terrorist mumbo jumbo are met with less hatred than I am here...so now craig, since you have borne false witness against me, sat in judgement over me, tell me again how you are god's favorite son...

#89378 by Rev Mike
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Ryan_Strain wrote:You act like people care? You're not even saying anything! You're just sitting back saying "YOU'RE WRONG....AND YOU'RE WRONG...AND YOU'RE WRONG"

I feel really sorry for you, Mike.

Craig Maxim just owned you. Now, be a good little dog and run away with your tail between your legs.


how many times does everyone think I can press this same key on the board and get the same note?


press

#89379 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Ryan_Strain wrote:
I feel really sorry for you, Mike.




That's the Christian part of him saying that Mike.

See? He's not such a bad Christian after all.

:wink:

.

#89380 by philbymon
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:04 pm
I've found that conversations about religion invariably end up with one person telling another that he is wrong about something, which, in my mind, is a ridiculous thing to say. One person's belief is sinply that - a BELIEF. It cannot be a proven fact, therefore it relies on the individual's faith to sustain that belief.

To tell someone that their belief is wrong is tantamount to telling them that their entire belief system is wrong. It is rude to do so, & nothing but bad feelings are accomplished by it.

I have had many times in my life that I was seeking out a new path for myself, spiritually. These times were always, of course, dark periods in my life, cuz when things are going well, why fix 'em, right?

I found that there are any number of ppl out there who are perfectly willing to "help you" to find their answers, but damned few who would allow you to find your own without their input, or the input of leaders in their religion. Funny thing is, the pushier these ppl are in offering their help, the more they have at stake themselves, & it's usually because of their desire to control you in some way, or to see you as controlled as they are.

I've found that the more rules any given religion has, the less value it has to me. I dunno if that makes much sense to you, but it does to me.

I'm not just talking moral rules of conduct, either. I'm talking rules of religion, like being unable to paint a picture of how you perceive your god to look, or using the name in vain, stuff like that. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that there could be anything I could do that would offend a true all-powerful god, short of destroying that which he has made, or trying to. If I should wish to use different rituals than the norm, I would think that that god would appreciate my creativity, which was a gift from him, as well as accept the fact that I would honor him in any way at all, like dancing under a full moon naked, or chanting, or whatever I may choose. All these differences seem like stupid arguments in semantics to me, & I will never be swayed by those well-meaning folk with such strict attitudes about what I should think or say or do to please my god.

I HAVE been given free thought for a reason. It is my belief that a big part of that reason is to find my own way to that creator, whose bosom I left at birth, & to better myself throughout this life. To do anything less would be to dishonor his effort in my very creation.

Eh, it's my belief, not yours, & I would never be one to push it on you in any way. But it's out there for you to pick apart, & show me the error of my ways, & to scold me for, &/or to simply laugh at. Just don't expect any great changes in my way of thinking to arise from anything that you, a mere mortal like me, would say. I listen to my inner voices on these issues, & I've been assured that my path is the correct one for me.

#89381 by Crip2Nite
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:06 pm
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#89384 by Rev Mike
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:09 pm
Very well said Phil...

#89385 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:09 pm
Philly!!!!

Very nicely said. I probably agree with more than 90% of what you said!

Enjoyed that!



philbymon wrote:I've found that conversations about religion invariably end up with one person telling another that he is wrong about something, which, in my mind, is a ridiculous thing to say. One person's belief is sinply that - a BELIEF. It cannot be a proven fact, therefore it relies on the individual's faith to sustain that belief.

To tell someone that their belief is wrong is tantamount to telling them that their entire belief system is wrong. It is rude to do so, & nothing but bad feelings are accomplished by it.

I have had many times in my life that I was seeking out a new path for myself, spiritually. These times were always, of course, dark periods in my life, cuz when things are going well, why fix 'em, right?

I found that there are any number of ppl out there who are perfectly willing to "help you" to find their answers, but damned few who would allow you to find your own without their input, or the input of leaders in their religion. Funny thing is, the pushier these ppl are in offering their help, the more they have at stake themselves, & it's usually because of their desire to control you in some way, or to see you as controlled as they are.

I've found that the more rules any given religion has, the less value it has to me. I dunno if that makes much sense to you, but it does to me.

I'm not just talking moral rules of conduct, either. I'm talking rules of religion, like being unable to paint a picture of how you perceive your god to look, or using the name in vain, stuff like that. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that there could be anything I could do that would offend a true all-powerful god, short of destroying that which he has made, or trying to. If I should wish to use different rituals than the norm, I would think that that god would appreciate my creativity, which was a gift from him, as well as accept the fact that I would honor him in any way at all, like dancing under a full moon naked, or chanting, or whatever I may choose. All these differences seem like stupid arguments in semantics to me, & I will never be swayed by those well-meaning folk with such strict attitudes about what I should think or say or do to please my god.

I HAVE been given free thought for a reason. It is my belief that a big part of that reason is to find my own way to that creator, whose bosom I left at birth, & to better myself throughout this life. To do anything less would be to dishonor his effort in my very creation.

Eh, it's my belief, not yours, & I would never be one to push it on you in any way. But it's out there for you to pick apart, & show me the error of my ways, & to scold me for, &/or to simply laugh at. Just don't expect any great changes in my way of thinking to arise from anything that you, a mere mortal like me, would say. I listen to my inner voices on these issues, & I've been assured that my path is the correct one for me.

#89387 by Rev Mike
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:18 pm
Crip2Nite wrote:
Rev Mike wrote:
Crip2Nite wrote:I guess I rant because when I read from an asshole such as yourself, I wanna beat the ever iiving sh¡t outta you! I just hate your freakin guts and I haven't even met you... I haven't had those feelings ever about anyone online... You're just a freakin' retard who's got diarrhea of the mouth and you honestly don't belong on a musicians site.... call me fuKT up with issues but I would take pleasure in seeing you slowly disemboweled in front of me as I make the first cut! :twisted:

ANALYZE THAT ONE REVEREND DIKLICKER!


Well, at least that is honest...I dont have to analyze it, I know exactly why you feel such hate to me, but I'd rather not devulge that.

Ryan, way to prove my point with your metal comment...

Crip, choose to hate me if thats what you need, but you know what it is that you really hate...you just dont want to open that can of worms...


Please enlighten me as .... honestly.... I'm clueless on this one :roll:

Let's see:

I hated my adoptive mom
my ex wife
you
my opiate addiction
my childhood
my boss
a few ex band members
my job
most club owners

just a few for now....

If you could personally let me know why I have such extreme hatred whereas it would be of a positive result to me even if it means opening up that "can of worms" that I'm pretty sure every human being on the planet has it would probably help me to understand your scathing and evil intended remarks you make to many individuals on this site since you signed on even though you claim the title " Reverend" maybe....just maybe, not only I, but others would have a different opinion of people such as yourself....



Again, have whatever opinion of me you wish. You hate because you were bred to hate, you loath the self you don't even know, you find release in your music and I came along and stomped on that release...which is probably the easiest way to set you off because music has been the only thing real to you that has never directly caused you pain. Truth be told, Kerry, you could unleash that hate into your music and probably make gold, but you don't know how, so you find a focal point and unleash on it. I'm glad to be it if you wish, but since you can shake my hand and smile and not feel that same hate, obviously the outlet is faulty. I take the title reverend because I can, I am legally ordained, and that is the secular name given to the ordained.

I have simply said from the beginning that I have found a way to communicate with god that I believe works best for me (yes, that is obviously paraphrasing) but all along I've also been honest. I haven't lied, I'm not out to control anyone. I just know how to push peoples buttons, I can sense emotion and I can manipulate it. Deny it if you wish, but you and ryan and even craig are proof. I have many "psychic" abilities since I found my path in religion, I make a decent living communicating with the dead now more than I am in the music business, but I still help with organizing events, I still perform, and I still have a couple bands I manage. When I recover my losses from my former partner, I think I may retire from music and focus on the medium work...who knows...

keep hating me if you wish, it REALLY only raises YOUR blood pressure.

#89394 by Ryan_Strain
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:33 pm
Rev Mike wrote: I have found a way to communicate with god that I believe works best for me


:arrow:

Rev Mike wrote:you moonie piece of sh*t


Rev Mike wrote:why is it you are such a f**k ing fake loser?


Rev Mike wrote:Nobody on this planet gives a sh*t about craig maxim more than craig maxim


Rev Mike wrote:you big f**k ing phony


Is that how you talk to God?

#89396 by Crip2Nite
Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:55 pm
Rev Mike wrote:
Crip2Nite wrote:
Rev Mike wrote:
Crip2Nite wrote:I guess I rant because when I read from an asshole such as yourself, I wanna beat the ever iiving sh¡t outta you! I just hate your freakin guts and I haven't even met you... I haven't had those feelings ever about anyone online... You're just a freakin' retard who's got diarrhea of the mouth and you honestly don't belong on a musicians site.... call me fuKT up with issues but I would take pleasure in seeing you slowly disemboweled in front of me as I make the first cut! :twisted:

ANALYZE THAT ONE REVEREND DIKLICKER!


Well, at least that is honest...I dont have to analyze it, I know exactly why you feel such hate to me, but I'd rather not devulge that.

Ryan, way to prove my point with your metal comment...

Crip, choose to hate me if thats what you need, but you know what it is that you really hate...you just dont want to open that can of worms...


Please enlighten me as .... honestly.... I'm clueless on this one :roll:

Let's see:

I hated my adoptive mom
my ex wife
you
my opiate addiction
my childhood
my boss
a few ex band members
my job
most club owners

just a few for now....

If you could personally let me know why I have such extreme hatred whereas it would be of a positive result to me even if it means opening up that "can of worms" that I'm pretty sure every human being on the planet has it would probably help me to understand your scathing and evil intended remarks you make to many individuals on this site since you signed on even though you claim the title " Reverend" maybe....just maybe, not only I, but others would have a different opinion of people such as yourself....



Again, have whatever opinion of me you wish. You hate because you were bred to hate, you loath the self you don't even know, you find release in your music and I came along and stomped on that release...which is probably the easiest way to set you off because music has been the only thing real to you that has never directly caused you pain. Truth be told, Kerry, you could unleash that hate into your music and probably make gold, but you don't know how, so you find a focal point and unleash on it. I'm glad to be it if you wish, but since you can shake my hand and smile and not feel that same hate, obviously the outlet is faulty. I take the title reverend because I can, I am legally ordained, and that is the secular name given to the ordained.

I have simply said from the beginning that I have found a way to communicate with god that I believe works best for me (yes, that is obviously paraphrasing) but all along I've also been honest. I haven't lied, I'm not out to control anyone. I just know how to push peoples buttons, I can sense emotion and I can manipulate it. Deny it if you wish, but you and ryan and even craig are proof. I have many "psychic" abilities since I found my path in religion, I make a decent living communicating with the dead now more than I am in the music business, but I still help with organizing events, I still perform, and I still have a couple bands I manage. When I recover my losses from my former partner, I think I may retire from music and focus on the medium work...who knows...

keep hating me if you wish, it REALLY only raises YOUR blood pressure.


WOW...Just Wow.... I've got rehearsal soon and I honestly need to read this a number of times before I can fully comprehend it... I hate to say it but there are a few nails hit right on the head... I was brought up very violently and I do "LOATHE" the self... Music is my only outlet and so are my painkillers and valium... helps me not to care... You've honored my last post so I will back off and really ponder this later on... Now I'm embarrassed of my actions as you somehow know something personal about me... WOW.... I'm very confused at the moment and really need to think this one out...ummmmm.... Thanks??? :?

#89401 by CraigMaxim
Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:55 pm
Crip,

Take it with a grain of salt. There is limited truth in what he has said, but it is not the TRUE PARTS of what someone like him says, it is the INTERPRETATION they provide which you have to watch out for.

Con artists are students of people.

That is why they are successful. They have some insight into people because they study them, and have learned use it to manipulate or use others. They pick up on a weakness and USE IT to get what they want, whether merely a REACTION out of someone, which makes them feel like they are PULLING THE STRINGS and therefore "superior" because of it.

His problems are so much more extreme than yours it isn't even funny.

When a supposed "guide" or "helper" prides himself on his ability to manipulate others (push buttons) and takes joy in hurting people, pissing them off, or bringing chaos, rest assured, their hearts are contemptible, dark and self-centered.

Mike... DJ, concert promoter, record producer, reverend and god... Is a user. He hurts people because it is fun. He feels superior when he can manipulate them, no matter what it does to those people personally.

You have hurt people from personal hurt and anger.

There "IS" a big difference here. You have felt out of control, when you have done things hurtful to others. He feels in COMPLETE control. The difference in motivation of hearts here, is night and day.

You don't loathe yourself in the way he suggests. You felt abandoned as a child, and then when you found your family in adulthood, you felt abandoned again. It was not what you had hoped. I had told you before, God may very well have been sparing you the fate of growing up with them, and therefore becoming like them.

You have lived in pain, it has brought anger, but you have worked to have your own family, and NOT abandon YOUR children. You have a constructive outlet, music, both for your feelings, and sense of self-worth, and God sent you a bulldog for a wife, who cares for you, and your needs, and would rip the head off anyone who tried to do something wrong to you. God blessed you. He loves you. He gave you the family that your own family would not give you.

You didn't have the childhood you wanted, but you know who you are.

Mike, hasn't even figured that out yet.

You smell bullshit a mile away, because you have been deceived in life, and you have NO TOLERANCE for those who do that to others.

.

#89407 by Crip2Nite
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:28 pm
OK rehearsal in 5 minutes... I hear ya, Craig,,,, just a lot of personal info touched and if in the future he'd be less vague, I'll take it to heart....

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