General Music Chat

Thump thump thump, another gig bites the dust.

If it werent for bad luck I'd have no luck at all, woa, dispair. and misery on me.

Our Gun Barrel City gig got canceled due to "scheduling conflicts".
Second show in a row, same excuse.
I am giving calenders for Christmas this year.
As well as free lessons on how to use one.

I love those nekkid chick calendars....

I love those nekkid chick calendars....

Somehow I don't think Sans would give out nekkid chick calendars.

That sucks George; is the scheduling problem with the band members? Usually I've had the most trouble with singers and drummers; just say "hey no problem I'll have my friend Johnny fill in for you". You'd be surprised how they can suddenly make it to the gig.

That sucks George; is the scheduling problem with the band members? Usually I've had the most trouble with singers and drummers; just say "hey no problem I'll have my friend Johnny fill in for you". You'd be surprised how they can suddenly make it to the gig.

No, he's talking about the organizers of the events themselves.

But Jimmy, that is SPOT-ON advice for the other kind of problem. They straighten up real quick when they are reminded that there ARE other musicians out there, don't they? LOL


George,

"Scheduling conflicts" are the venue-version of "The check is in the mail" a complete cover-story for them changing something.

Sometimes there really was a scheduling conflict, but more often than not, it is a cover story for...

- Someone booked your band, but a bigger guy got involved and wanted to make that decision himself, preferably with his own friend's band or someone he has heard of before.

- Some other band is willing to do the gig more cheaply.

- A better or more well-known band became available and room had to be made for them.

- The previous booking agent recently got fired or the venue itself actually changed hands, and so they are starting from scratch.


It's usually something like one of the above examples.

When you are doing paid gigs and your band has a big enough following, you should be able to convince many venues to sign a contract which guarantees your band payment in full, in the event of scheduling conflicts.

But it's happened to my old band before. It sucks not being able to play out, when you were all ready to go. But you'll have more gigs coming your way!

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Wtf are "scheduling conflicts?" Did they schedule you at the same time they scheduled a petting zoo or somesuch? I could see how cleanup could be a problem...

I never had that trouble...well...they did occasionally double-book, if that's the idea of a scheduling prob...

One of our shows for November was canceled, but with good cause. I remember when I heard about it, I thought it sounded strange. It was scheduled to be an outdoor concert at the end of November. Good luck with that. I think the event got moved to next spring.

Much better.

This happens all the time guys.

If you are scheduling a band you need to constantly follow up on gigs. If you just book it and leave it, this can happen, venue owners or booking people change and are flaky people at times looking for the biggest draw. Just follow up when you have a gig and stay on top of it and it will help keep this from happening.

Weve had 3-4 gigs mess up on us over the past couple of years and these are at venues that we have been a real good draw for us.

We are playing Halloween night and they moved another band off the night to accomadate us. The other band got in touch and I told the guy look we outdraw you guys over there and the venue wants the most money they can get. I did refer these guys to some more places to play and I think they picked up a Halloween gig to replace the one we are doing.

When we have a show somewhere I try to get in contact a couple of weeks ahead of time. I try to go over the weekend before and promote the show to the regulars where we are playing, doing this has allowed me to head off that dreaded deal where 2 groups show up for the same night. One time we actually flipped a coin to see who got the gig. So its good to always have a 2 headed coin in your pocket!

I will add if you are booked for a special event and ticket sales arent going well a lot of times promotors will pull the event, saying there is a scheduling conflict can just mean that there was not enough interest in your event.

We all need to remember that this is a business and someone has to pay the cost of an event. I used to book 4-5 band partys back in the day. We would line up some kegs of beer and charge a flat gate rate for people to get in. Mind you this was when the drinking age was 18 in my area and you really didnt have to card folks like you would have to these days. But we pulled a couple of these shows at the last minute cause there just wasnt enough interest.

Mind you business and you will stay in business.

As the story goes the Youth Group Director had us scheduled to play being unaware that two of the other Church committes had also scheduled events on the same day. I know that this happens especially in the Church as often internal communication is poor due to having well meaning amitures running multiple committes without direction from a central government.
I doubt if anyone under bid us as we told them we would do it free, but would accept an "gift" towards our mission if they so choose.
I was hopefull said "gift" would help us toward the studio.
You all know financial times are tough right now.


Besides who could rock the WORD better than us ?

Just try not to take things like this personal, keep on keepn on and things will go great!

When I played in the religious sector there were aften conflicts like this. Just learn to keep on keepn on.

Thanks John, and I will keep on. This is one of those places where I feel I can vent a bit of frustration amoungst fellow musos.
Regular type folk just dont understand like a bandsman would.