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OCASSIONAL BAD NOTES ,CAN THEY BE FIXED?

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#86058 by real live music
Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:47 pm
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A DEVICE I HEARD OF THAT CAN TAKE AN

SOUR NOTE AND BEFORE IT COMES OUT OF THE SPEAKERS THIS DEVICE

CAN BASICALLY CORRECT THE TONE TO MAKE IT BE IN TUNE! SO WHERE

DO YA GET THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ? CAN IT REALLY ALTER NOTES!


:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: DOES IT WORK FOR VOCALS AND GUITAR

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: ANYONE THAT KNOWS PLEASE RESPOND!

OR CONTACT ME ON BANDMIX. REAL LIVE MUSIC , MISSION BROTHERS!

#86066 by RhythmMan
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:14 pm
My software will let me change the pitch of an entire song.
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But - you're better off learning to play and sing every note correctly.
If you do it wrong - try it again.
If you do it wrong, again - try again.
I just call it practice . . .

#86067 by philbymon
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:20 pm
Not a fan of the pitch controllers. I suppose they can be useful, if you're Kanya West...or Ashley Simpson...or Brittney Spears...but real musos can play or sing it well, & don't need this stuff.

#86075 by gbheil
Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:34 pm
I have heard of this technology as well. Very expensive I would assume.
I am with the above listed musicians. Trust me, I make lots of mistakes being an amiture. But, play it right or play it again. In all honesty, is the only way. Otherwise might as well turn on the CD and lipsync.

#86076 by Kramerguy
Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:55 pm
you can buy those for as cheap as $200 anymore.

Called "pitch correctors". They all generally do the same thing, although range wildly in price based on features and "quality" of the masking of poor tone.

When the "effect" is set to max, you end up with a heavy synth sound, which Cher, Chris Cornell, and Kanye have all used to bring this device into the forefront as a "special effect" not much different in theory than using a bullhorn for vocals (as far as novelty goes).

Personally, I think it's pretty damn sad that people with no actual skill can be masked to seem like they do... Ashlee Simpson is the textbook example of this.

I have no respect for people who use them.

#86078 by Starfish Scott
Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:18 pm
It's a cheat!

#86098 by HowlinJ
Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:52 pm
Capt. Scott wrote:It's a cheat!


I gotta agree with the Capt. on this one.

I seen this thing on TV. Tyson the astronomer ,who has a science show on PBS, did a show on them a while back.
IMO, If you need one to sing in key, it's time to pursue some other interest. :roll:

HJ

#86103 by gbheil
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:07 pm
It's like using a machine to sink basketballs or swat home runs.
Why bother to even play the guitar if a computer program can make any note on the fretboard the "right note".
Oh the humanity. :lol:

#86106 by 1collaborator
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:14 pm
Every garage band ought to have em one of those !

For another day in Paradise !!!!

#86121 by RGMixProject
Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:52 pm
The latest is the Antares AVP-1 autotune/vocal producer in the hardware format. Less than $400.00

Here's the web site

http://www.antarestech.com/

#86174 by RhythmMan
Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:39 pm
Using a pitch corrector to play or sing in key is a small step up from playing those guitar-playing video games, (which is the same as playing 'air-guitar').
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I would never consider working with anybody who used one.
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Never.
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Either you can play/sing - or you can't.
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But don't make-believe you can play or sing . . .
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Practice, instead, until you really can . . .

#86176 by jimmydanger
Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:07 pm
Allow me to play devil's advocate. These devices are very useful in certain circumstances. For example, let's say you have an important show booked, one that canceling is not an option. Now let's say your singer (or you) comes down with a bad cold that affects their ability to hit higher notes (i.e. they come out flat). Having the ability to correct these bad notes could be gig saving, if not career saving. Another example is in the recording process. Let's say you did several takes and on one of them the performance really shines except for one small passage that was sung sharp. The other takes don't have the mistake but just don't have the excitement of the take with the error. Shouldn't we as musicians have the ability to use technology to save time and money? Isn't technology like this just another tool, no different than the amps, processors and synthesizers we already use?

#86186 by ratsass
Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:27 pm
Yeah, Jimmy, I agree. Especially if the singer (with the cold) has already shown in the past that he CAN sing in tune, why not let him cheat a bit when he needs to in order to save the day. I think most people on here are just against a singer who HAS to use the device all the time because he can't hit the proper notes.
And, in the studio, same thing applies. If they have what it takes and just and a couple of bad spots on an otherwise flawless take, why spend the time and money and vocal chords on just those little glitches. If I had one of those in my studio, there are times I would use it and not even bother the artist about it, if it were only a couple of little spots. Well, I'd get the artist opinion first, of course, but try to steer him in the direction of using pitch correction instead of taking a chance on recording over the first take or recording the take on a different channel and having to copy and paste the parts which usually is a nightmare.

#86190 by philbymon
Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:33 pm
Believe it or not, I'm witchooz guys on that...but it should NOT be used with any regularity

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