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#84735 by philbymon
Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:34 pm
The only "scandal" I see is that this crazy lil person can STILL get on TV!

Who's she plookin' now?

#84748 by CraigMaxim
Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:23 am
Paleopete wrote:

And for those of you who like to say 'yeah but if it were YOUR daughter/son/brother/niece/sister'...been there, done that. My sister had one hell of a fight on her hands trying to keep me from cutting the guy into little pieces after he just tried to molest her 12 year old daughter...just tried to....



I think that proves my point. Suddenly, it's not very funny when it is someone close to us.

Black humor is fine. Keep it generic though. When the target is a real human being, and their real pain. I think that shows a lack of compassion. We or someone we care about will endure their own personal hell one day, and we would wish for some compassion when they were in the midst of it.

Isn't it only right then, to extend it to others?

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#84761 by philbymon
Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:33 am
If you're gonna air your dirty laundry, someone's bound to take a piss on it, Craig.

Her sick lil story helps no one. Her detailed accounts may well push some crazy who's stradding the line into doing similar things with someone even younger & less able to make better decisions than she claims to have made. After all, she had a 10 year affair with her rapist. THAT is the only part of her "message" that many will think about.

True or not, my living room is hardly the place to talk about this sh*t, yet there it was on my f&cking tv, & in millions if not billions of others. To help who? HER? Is it so necessary for HER mental health to sit there & blame her problems, her bad decisions, on someone who has no recourse, & may only have performed this crap in her HEAD for all we know?

I'm supposed to have compassion for this? That ain't my job. I don't have all the info, & the info that I DO have leads me to believe that she's a terminal nutcase who is perfectly willing to say anything, to do anything, that will make her life more tolerable than she herself has made it, with no regard for the cost that it may incur for the world at large.

This urge to shout & brag about one's victimhood has become so popular in today's media that no one thinks about the results of this kind of mental health approach, & it sickens me.

If she is lying, it encourages her to continue to lie, & even if she's telling the truth, it may well encourage others to follow in her attacker's footsteps to counter their own failings as human beings.

Thus, she's a stupid ass either way. Your stance is unacceptable to me, whether she's a victim of her daddy or her own mental illness. She is continuing to do harm, as she evidently has to herself & others associated with her for most of her life, only on a larger scale, now.

And as far as I'm concerned, the media promoting this "stab the dead guy" story is as bad as she is.

Targeting her with black humor is the best thing that we can do for all of those really stupid ppl out there, & it can be fun, too, as it helps you to keep things in the proper perspective.

I doubt that there any of us who haven't had situations that were traumatic in our youth. To take them all to the media is borish, & accomplishes nothing for us. So why do it? Ppl don't need attention for their victim status. They should get attention for overcoming it, & she clearly hasn't. Hide the lil twit away & treat her until she can be a contributing member of society without being a crybaby whiner who blames everything on others. She's appearing to be a perfect example to us all of a bad seed who comes from bad stock spreading her bad sh*t across the globe, thanks to her celebrity status alone (& IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT SHE EVEN EARNED THAT CELEBRITY STATUS).

I know I don't think it proper at all for my grandson to be exposed to this story at any prepubescent age, or even in his adolescence. It offends me that anyone would think it appropriate info for a budding young mind, yet there it is on a "news" program for all to see, with no word of warning to those of us who don't wish to see this sh*t. If this story belongs anywhere at all, it's in some psychology tome, or a psychiatric study, NOT on national news programs.

And If, heaven forbid, that something of this sort happen to him, I certainly would not want him to go public with his story, or to follow in any of that crazy bitch's footsteps.

So, to paraphrase the soup nazi & Frank Zappa- NO COMPASSION FOR YOU, SUZIE CREAMCHEESE!

#84777 by philbymon
Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:06 pm
Her stepmother says she made it up. How many times was she fired for being high on the job in "One Day At A Time?" 3? 5? 10? She was doing heroin on the Today show just last year, Craig, by her own admission. She also admits to shooting cocaine while she was pregnant. How often has she actually been in control of her full faculties in her life? Are YOU willing to take this strung-out wasted drug-induced memory as FACT? It bewilders me that anyone would believe it, let along put it on national TV to be aired in front of CHILDREN! I'm surprized if she believes it herself.

This is just a stupid as all of those false memories brought out by hypnosis a few years ago. Remember that? Ppl were alleging that their own parents were Satan-worshipping baby eaters & such, who raped them repeatedly, while under hypnosis. That turned out to be untrue, just like Mackenzie's drug-laden memories probably are. A whole lotta bunk.

She's what, 50 now? A little late to start getting her sh*t together. If she is, more power to her, but I can't look at her without thinking "junkie-monkey who could have killed her own child." F*ck her & her crapola, anyway. This is just another thing she's doing that's just so wrong.

She wants to be the voice of the downtrodden incest victims of the world? She wants for all of us to get it out in the open & talk about it? On tv? In front of kids? In front of other mentally ill ppl who can't handle such thoughts? I think that's pretty f*cking SICK, don't you? Maybe we'll all get lucky & she'll go back on the juice & kill herself, the little sicko. No. I have zero compassion for this asshole & her campaign. For too long, she's been a useless waste of air, & to find glory in any of this just makes me wanna vomit.

As far as I'm concerned, she should be locked away for life for endangering her unborn child the way she did, which would be REALLY nice, cuz we wouldn't be hearing about this sh*t now if that had happened.

#84793 by Starfish Scott
Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:25 pm
philbymon wrote:She also admits to shooting cocaine while she was pregnant.


8 ball in the side pocket.. lol

#84797 by Miggie Lou
Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:58 pm
Her story is like some Jerry Springer sh*t ! I just don't think her father ever raped her. I think it was all consentual, what little girl gets raped by her father and thinks "hmmm maybe I'll go for seconds... Maybe thirds! Hell let's just make it a 10 year affair!" Nope, just can't seem to get a grasp on that one.

#84811 by gbheil
Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:32 pm
Thats cause your from Texas Mig.
We dont play that ! :twisted:

#84839 by fisherman bob
Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:36 am
Miggie Lou wrote:Her story is like some Jerry Springer sh*t ! I just don't think her father ever raped her. I think it was all consentual, what little girl gets raped by her father and thinks "hmmm maybe I'll go for seconds... Maybe thirds! Hell let's just make it a 10 year affair!" Nope, just can't seem to get a grasp on that one.
Put youself in the place of a very young girl and your father does this to you (I'm not saying it was done in this case). You would be SCARED TO DEATH to tell anybody about it. You also would not want to get your father in trouble. Your father is your ONLY father. Most little girls and boys LOVE their parents, no matter how vile they might be. You need to get a grasp on the mind of a very young child. They are innocent and helpless and they do not want to reveal the incest to anybody because THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO DO SO. Like I said in a previous reply to this topic, I knew a young woman who went through this very scenario. Her father was a very prominent person in the community. She lived in a very wealthy home. If she goes to the authorities her home ceases to exist. It's a very frightening experience for a young child to go through. You need to get a grasp of the reality of the situation, or perhaps take a course in Maladapted Personality. This is not a situation for people to make fun of or joke about, EVER.

#84842 by Miggie Lou
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:40 am
Alright now bob simmer down, let's not assume that I do not know any female who's ever been in that situation. Bob, unfortunatley it's more of a common problem then some people realize and I do have friends who have been the victims of incest at extremely young ages. And I can tell you that your right about the feeling they felt towards the well being of the family member who raped them. But not one of them ever made it consentual, because of "fear". Not one. So that's my take on the situation. It's ok if your take is different from mine. I don't mean this as a joke but I do live in TX and in some areas this sh*t is common. So I'm sorry if I offended you, honest :) that was not my intention. But this is a forum where you can chat freely right? Good lord I feel like I just got scolded by my dad hehe, I don't know I'f I should go clean my room or get grounded for a week :P

#84846 by philbymon
Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:25 am
19 is not a child in my book. It happens to be past the age of consent. In fact, that's in that area of age where you think you know a lot more than your parents, the age you rebel & begin to fly solo.

It's also the age at which this whole thing supposedly started.

Nope...I still don't buy it.
#84870 by Class Cat
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:06 pm
It's a society that is base, the society that will look over, incest, patricide, and anything else that leads to it. Taking drugs while pregnant, teaching young children to take drugs, it goes on and on, effectively creating a race of base. Not Bass. Don't waste the space in jails, prisons or community's, take them out, one by one, erase the Ferrel gene that creates base. They say it's unacceptable, why is it still here? We eradicate diseases, would this not be one?

#84872 by jimmydanger
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:14 pm
Right on Class Cat, but why stop there? Eradicate the illegal immigrants, liberals, blacks, jews and especially those damned musicians. But don't be surprised when you get a knock on your door someday and they take you away.
#84874 by Class Cat
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:20 pm
We have all been taken away, some know what to look for now, lol. I head to the hills of Texas and play, I can't wrap my head around the laws anymore the ones Big Brother concentrate on, I'd rather listen to Marvin Gaye, to be honest. There are only 10 rules (commandments) and they are NOT Multiple Choice, how hard can that be??

#84876 by gbheil
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:20 pm
NO and Wow, I understand that concept. You been reading Mein Kampf ?
Genetics / Eugenics, may predispose to a behavior pattern, but they do not predict. You cannot judge a man by his fathers actions.
I am all over harsh punishment for violent crime. But for the individual,
not under pretense of a delusion your somehow exercising some violent genetic trait.
Faulty, failed and damned dangerous.
That is not Science, its hate.

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