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#83345 by TheCaptain
Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:57 pm
doodes, the venom actually squirted out of the monitor ONTO my keyboard!?

I demand reparations....

#83347 by Sir Jamsalot
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:09 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:
Chris4Blues wrote:
Craig, I didn't say I undercut your argument. I said Craig undercut Craig's argument.



Chris,

How do I undercut my own argument when I agree that human involvement can lead to error in anything? I agree that this is always a possibliity whether in religion or science or any other field?



Because in so doing, you can't call it (Creation is a myth) a fact, which is what you continue to do. You can believe it to be true, which is fine, but at least change your language a little to reflect your admission that there is a possibility in human error (this includes your own in believing a man-written account concerning the falsehood of 6 day Creation).

Instead of saying it like "it is the case that Creation is a myth", show that you're willing to take into consideration that you may be mistaken by phrasing it like "based on what I have researched, I am led to the conclusion that it is a myth". At that point, a rational discussion can take place where the other side is not dismissed at the outset, which is pretty insulting.

regards,
Chris

#83350 by Chippy
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:13 pm
Then you should not be touching it with you're hand should you!

celticpiping wrote:doodes, the venom actually squirted out of the monitor ONTO my keyboard!?

I demand reparations....

#83353 by BobdoB
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:26 pm
Chippy wrote:Yes it is.
I don't frankly know how long I will be here? I mean this forum OF COURSE!
To be honest however scrutinizing every simplex means that we want to find something and that something has long since passed.

I'd rather just be, or try to be a good person. Saved a cats life last week which made me feel good. Been a heck load of situations where folks need help and others would just stand back and watch, (Sometimes). Peeps don't like a burden. I'm one now as it happens.

You get the message right?

My message is in my music and that is where it will stay really. I'm NOT a big person. I am a believer in humanity though sometimes I really fear for us all.

So BobdoB
What do you play? :D
We've been here before, all of us.

BobdoB wrote: Its in there.


I get the message. I am happy with my journey, and so are you. Wish everyone was. Keep the message in your muic, that is the way to be.

I play guitar, bass, and keyboard. Tried drums, but cant keep time on them, I can keep time on the others, lol. I put up a few new tracks on my profile. Let me know what you think. The first two were improvised on my new sythn, and the last was played on the synth, but isn't new, its older.

#83367 by philbymon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:59 pm
Craig - YOU are my hobby. Bashing you makes me feel very happy & fulfilled. Being called a "bad father," or anything else, by the likes of your cowardly self, is an honor, due to your lack of any real substance. If you'd like to come up to WV to discuss it further, in person, I know a nice quiet peaceful place where we can be totally alone to take care of our differences, just like kids in the schoolyard, since that's how you seem to want to play.

You still haven't gotten any "growth" done, have you? I didn't really expect you to. A grown man would know better than to berate someone for over however many pages you please before you give in to peer pressure to stfu. But, I guess, we all have our little growth cycles, don't we?

And I have as new hobby - calling you out on your stupidity. It's a fun one, too!
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Chris - I've been keeping a little file on ol' "Glutes" ever since he returned with this on July 11 -
CraigMaxim wrote:Hello everyone!

I missed you guys... except for Phil of coourse! ;-)

Just kidding, even missed Phil...
Craig Maxim
http://www.myspace.com/craigmaxim


I remember what an idjit he was last time he was here, & the circumstances under which he left (which were eerily similar to this, so I guess his claims of how he "grows" aren't exactly true, either!).

It seemed from the beginning of his return that he wanted to pick up where we left off, so I'll gladly accomodate him.
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BobdoB - I am not a christian, & I have no desire to be christ-like. When I see a disturbing influence, I'll likely point it out. If it's laughable, I'm gonna laugh at it. It's just one of the wonders that is me...lol

Note that I don't seem to have problems with anyone else in the forums...but then, neither does Paul...hmmm...there DOES seem to be a common thread of a problem, though, doesn't there?

...I wonder what it could be...

#83380 by neanderpaul
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:38 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:
neanderpaul wrote:

If the bible had to list everything that wasn't allowed how big would the bible be?


If the Bible had to list everything that WAS allowed how big would the Bible be?



66 books actually.

#83381 by 420freedom
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:40 pm
lol,Craig,you called George Carlin material "safe"??,seriously?,how completely wrong of you,isn't the whole "point" of the bible to make people feel safe,and give them the false hope of ascending into an imaginary place in the sky?

how many people have seen these banned movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4

#83382 by philbymon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:51 pm
Glutes - I didn't chime in until you'd had 20 posts under your verbosely HUGE belt, & didn't begin to attack you until you'd hit 22, when you started your post saying "Bullsh*t" in answer to Paul. Over 15 of those posts were unnecessarilly long & boring, & several were far from "friendly." Go look yourself.

I think I was more than tolerant.

I am your biggest fan, Glutes. Keep 'em coming so I have something to do!!!!

#83384 by neanderpaul
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:02 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:I think it is a terribly petty thing to divide churches over.


I think it's sad too. If people hadn't tried to add that to the church then the church leaders wouldn't had had to stand up for the truth by showing the design in scripture then the people who wanted to add to the design would not have left.

It is a symptom to me, of what is WRONG with modern Christianity.

CraigMaxim wrote:But your culture, and your position, demand that you obey this new prohibition and division, so you won't be swayed. I get that.


Actually Ephesians 5:19 and Colossians 3:16 command me to sing so I know it's pleasing. You're right I won't be swayed from following the bible.

You won't be swayed into believing the bible is our clear and only guide.

I said twice that that was our impasse.

CraigMaxim wrote:Can we drop it now?


That's what I suggested but it's hard for either of us to stop. I want you to follow scripture. And you want to say I'm a legalist for following scripture.

CraigMaxim wrote:I tried my best, and I failed.


You and I both

CraigMaxim wrote:It doesn't make you a bad person, and it doesn't make me a satanic influence. God has bigger things on His mind than our discussion.


Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
That's of course me too.

I will continue to follow God's will in his God breathed word and that will not mean I love rules. That means I love God and want to please him.

Your rainbow argument is ridiculous. That is putting limits on God. He can do things and prove things however he sees fit.

If you were right in the heart and ready to learn as you say scripture would convict you. All you spout is opinion. No scriptures are used.

#83385 by neanderpaul
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:07 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:
neanderpaul wrote:


Second, you never heard me say "we" are right and all of Christianity is wrong. That is just another common slander.



It is a fact, not slander.


Yep it's slander. You said that I said we are the only ones going to heaven. Not only did I not say it but the church I worship with never said it.


CraigMaxim wrote: You would not need to split a denomination, and form a new denomination, if ALL OTHERS were not wrong. If any other church were RIGHT, you could have joined them, and not split the Body of Christ, YET AGAIN with a new denomination.

Surely you can't argue that point?


Obviously I can and already have.
1. We are an autonomous church. (the only scriptural kind of church is autonomous)
2. No splits have happened
3. We follow the guide in the new testament of examples and commands for the worship of God in Christ's church
4. That means there are no divisions or denomination - we are not a denomination
5. We are only Christians
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#83387 by Prevost82
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:08 pm
God ... I need more popcorn and beer :D ... this has been great entertainment :shock:

Great debating Phil ... remind me not to pick a fight with you :x ... well maybe I could hold my own with a food fight :)

#83388 by neanderpaul
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:10 pm
Food fight!!??? Woo hoo! :lol:

#83391 by philbymon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:26 pm
It's easy to fight with someone who gives you so much ammunition, Prevost. Just peruse any of his posts - he defends himself more than anyone I ever met (cuz he has to), & in doing so, gives us all way too much personal info to hit him over the head with. While he's giving you all that ammo, he's also lowering his shields until they're completely gone.

He's really too easy.

Try to pick a fight with anyone else in here, & you might have a problem.

Note his attack on my fatherhood. That was from a discussion we had over a yr ago, where we eventually agreed to disagree, & actually complimented each other for our parental attributes. He had to go there to hit me with anything, cuz he had nothing else, & it was a dead issue that he'd already complimented me on, so it was totally moot, & couldn't hit home at all.

He's really a terrible amateur at debating, & worse at the insult game, but that's only because he always has so much at stake - his own ego. It's always a fatal flaw.

Just like all of his arguments, it all comes down to Glutes - how informed he is, how smart he is, how many ppl admire him, all of the fantastic experiences he's had, etc etc etc ad infinitum...That's the easiest target in the world, but he hasn't learned that, yet, cuz he's oh so wrapped up in his next sentence, & his own glory.

I found it quite amusing that I was the only one who answered his post about his juvie thingie. That says a whole lot about how many ppl in here are into Glutes, doesn't it? He sees his popularity crumbling again, so he'll prolly turn up the pressure until we gather together & gang up on him, & then he'll claim that I've poisoned everyone's mind against him, cuz his ego won't let him see that it's Glutes that causes ppl to avoid Glutes.

Eh...some ppl just CAN'T learn from their mistakes.

But posting all of this is probably the kindest thing I could ever do for him, even though he'll get his ass on his shoulder again & argue about how wrong I am. Now that I've said that, it won't happen right away, but it's coming, I assure you, cuz he just can't stand to have his ego deflated by an opponent. You'd think he'd have gotten used to it by now.

LOL

#83392 by Sir Jamsalot
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:27 pm
Chris4Blues lobs a squirrel sandwich into the crowd, then runs :lol:

#83394 by philbymon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:29 pm
Hey! This is way too small to feed us all! You tryin' to stir sh*t up again, Chris, ya booger?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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