General Music Chat

Well, JW, you're just going to have to put some of your solo stuff up on here when you get the time, so's we can all put on our judgemental robes and give our Bandmixal critiques.

I know I'm chiming in kinda late on this, but I do quite a few solo gigs and there are some basic lessons I've learned.

1. NEVER talk politics. EVER!
2. ONLY joke about sex in very general terms or when talking about yourself.
3. Know your audience. Example - If you're playing in a Navy bar, don't talk about drugs. At all. You can sing about drugs, but don't talk about them.

With that said, JW, this kinda crap happens and all you can do is learn from it, take the high road (no pun intended) and move on. Keep rockin'.

Thanks THB

It is what it is.

Thanks for your input, I know to never talk politics or religion with anyone, those subjects have always been touchy with anyone.

In my band our singer does most of the interaction with the crowd, so Im still learning that side of things. I have to watch what to say no drugs, no politics and no religion. So that pretty much leaves sex, maybe drinking too.

LOL

All we talk and sing about is the love of Christ.

It's all about the venue !!

Gee sounds like she "jumped to a conclusion".

Imagine that, others can actually jump to conclusions BESIDES you JW? lol

How that's shoe feel, now that it's stapled to your head?

Next time make sure that filter between your brain and your mouth is engaged, unless you just don't give a fat sh*t.

That'd be me.

I just don't fing care unless what you are doing affects your performance.
Otherwise I just keep my trap shut as it can attract flies and morons, not specifically in that order.

Thanks for the input Capt I'll keep that in mind.

Have a Great Weekend

Capt. You are soooo coool. Do you have an online course for that smoothness and class you exude. Maybe a 12 part webinar is in order!

Capt. You are soooo coool. Do you have an online course for that smoothness and class you exude. Maybe a 12 part webinar is in order!

3. Know your audience. Example - If you're playing in a Navy bar, don't talk about drugs. At all. You can sing about drugs, but don't talk about them.

um. why? I mean, why the Navy in particular?

A followup, the venue that I was playing in has offered me Tuesday nights to do as I please and wants me anytime that I can on a weekend.

I was going to go down the road to another venue that had interest in me and play on mondays since Dorothy kept monday nights. I would be in direct competition if I did that or I can play tuesdays. What would the consensus be here on what night to play. Im just curious what others would do?

I plan on continueing these gigs for a while cause I am developing some original material for another cd in the future. Im thinking of doing a barebones acoustic with vocals type deal, Forget overdubbing, click tracks all that crap just go in with a guitar and lay it down. This gig helps me flesh out these songs, plus I take an electric and get great practice on cover material and building my vocals back up. Its a real challenge to go into a venue all alone and try to keep people interested for a couple of hours. In bands you can rely on the group to carry you thru but this is totally different. I think any singer guitarist should try this for a while just as a chellenge. For me one gig like this is worth 100 practices. You find out immediately if you are making impact with people or not.

Thanks for all the input on this thread.

Getting kicked out of a gig was very humbling for me, Ive only once before been kicked out of a group and that was eons ago for drinking too much. I was giving 100% in this situation and got the axe, oh well life moves on. I guess as long as we keep moving forward musically then we are doing what we should be doing.

C-YA

Put the pot head out of business with your show / compitition.
I doubt she is intellegent enough to learn from it. But we can always hope.
Compitition is good. Having a choice of whom to hear play is even better.
Thats my 0.02

While it might be fun to compete with her on the same night, it seems that the original venue has some respect for you, & some appreciation as well.

I dunno...which one pays better?

This experience really bugs the crap out of you, doesn't it, JW? It's a damned shame that it happened, but really - can you let it go? I'm not trying to be an asshole here. When things get stuck in someone, it can tend to be pretty unhealthy. I'm also not saying that you're harping on the subject - I guess that statement might look like that, but it isn't what I mean. What I'm saying is that your feelings are staying wrapped up in this little incident (& if you step back & look, it IS "little" although it might sting & hurt your self image, & that sure isn't fun), & wouldn't it be better just to let the crazy bitch go without more thought?

After all, do you really think that she's losing any sleep over it? Do you think she's giving it any further thought at all?

You inadvertantly stepped on her toes without even realizing it. She retaliated by chopping off your foot. She didn't have the maturity to look at what went down in a reasonable fashion. Crazy ppl are the worst, cuz no matter now you try, you can't figure out where you went so wrong, or why they act like they do.

You can choose to let it continue to bug you, or you can choose to stay busy until it passes. You are quite the busy type of guy, so it should be relatuvely easy for you to move on without getting into a pissing contest with her, or hurting the venue that seems to like you.

All things being equal - pay & effort & all, I would prolly play the same venue on a different night, as long as there is no way that you hafta interact with her further. Are you using the same house equipment? That could spell trouble. I wouldn't compete against the house if I could avoid it, cuz that could cause ill feelings with those innocent ppl. Don't let her craziness spill over into YOUR life, in other words.

Damn! I took a long time to say all of that, didn't I? I've been reading too many religious threads!

Philby, your right maybe I am dwelling on this too much. But really Im just askng this site for guidance, I thought thats what it was for and also Im sure other people have experienced this same situation and dont want to talk about it.

Next week Im going in the same room on tuesday night. They have house equipment, but I also carry my own, no biggie a couple of monitors and a pa head. She told me that all she was going to do was tell people there was scheduling problem. So it would look pretty stupid on both of us if I showed up down the street the very next week on the same night. So for the rest of the month Im going to take tuesdays at the same room so I dont bump on her, and Im going to cultivate the friendship with the other room to get back playing mondays like I had originally planned. I have already let all this go, I just like to write my thoughts out and look at them from the third person to see if Im being a jerk, or delusional as Capt likes to call me for some reason. ha ha

Thats my plan and thats the way Im going to work it. Ive always believed you make your plan and work your plan. These gigs money wise dont pay enough to matter at either venue cause mon and tues are off nights. Its a tourist area. The nights I play there I go up to a condo I have access to sit on the balcony a couple of hours practise or write tunes. Ive been trying to get myself in some sort of creative cycle, when Im home other things always get in the way. This way whatever day I pick is devoted to playing music. No excuses.

I hope that my post encourage someone on here to get off thier butt and start playing music. Its so easy to get on here and spend hours and hours not producing anything, but getting angry cause someone slams something you say. When you could use the time and energy to be doing something to further your music.

Just do it!

That's a very good way to handle it, JW!

At least she didn't try to get you black-balled at that venue.

I think it's good that you aren't gonna turn it into something else by competing or whatever.

You're a smart cookie, man.

I've been working on my own stuff, little by little, & I'm seeing some small improvements. Went to another open mic last night, but my vox weren't really up for much. This time of year, like spring, causes some prob's with my voice, over the lastr cpl of yrs. I REALLY need to stop that smoking stuff, I think...gonna really hafta work hard on that...maybe that e-cig Crip's using will help...

Hey, JW - thanks for taking my ramblings in the spirit they were offered, & you're quite right - this is a good place to think out loud & get valuable feedback. I love this joint.

lol I love it when the anger is merely thinly veiled.

Take all experience(s), filter out what you think helps in the scenario at hand and use it.

Don't waste your time by being upset by anyone or anything. It's just siphoning off your energy for non-productive behavior(s).

It's mind over matter, as in "I don't mind and she don't matter".

The only part you screwed up was to say what you did over the mic. Live and learn.