General Music Chat

http://www.hulu.com/watch/62945/before-the-music-dies

watching now...
when the teenage milli vanilli sang... I knew right away...
can you say massive pitch correction!

damn them for putting eric clapton on here!
I don't care for doyle... I feel john mayer is way better, along with a number of other good players that are unknown...
but I do agree with the point they make... stevie wonder would never get a shot these days.

this is the reason I seek guys like John Hiatt... Tom Waitts... pretty much find an ugly guy and you'll find a great song writer.

It's definitely an eye opener about clear channel and how easy it is to create a pretty young pop star. Pretty and young... an new crop ripens every day.

thing is... nobody like you or I is buying that lp, but you don't need to look hard to see what that means to the rest of the 'starving musicians' out there.

all you can do is not buy those 'one hit wonders'... seek out the great local band at the blues hall, seek out the original writers, spend money on those people... and make a point not to spend money on those acts that are only big because they've got a million dollar advertising budget.

You see my friends, mistermikev has hit on the root of the essence of free enterprise.
Support your local musical endevors.
The more the National economy goes in the toilet, the more important your local support groups will be.
Today perhaps it's just getting out to see a local act play for enjoyment.
Tomorrow it may be a dozen tax free eggs for your family.
There is much more to networking than meets the "all seeing eye".

Thanks for posting the link man.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/62945/before-the-music-dies

LMAO. What have you learned from your students?
They're full of *hit!

LOL.
Hey, great video. Thanks soo much for sharing. It's a gem.

Chris

For those Bandmixers that have read my posts on this subject over the last few years, I have repeatedly said this exact thing. It's ALL about image. Pop music today has NOTHING to do with the music. It's ALL about superficiality. Image. Hair styles. Look at Britney Spears' hot new body. From the conception of MtV to today it's all about style. Madonna is a superstar because she was one of the first huge MTV stars. Are you going to LISTEN to a Madonna CD 25 years from now? Is anybody? One of the reasons I was SO excited by the Susan Boyle phenomenon was FINALLY somebody being recognized for a spectacular singing voice. I am also hearing some much more redeeming new music. VOcals with intelligible lyrics are coming back in style. A lot of young musicians are getting into jazz. We have a budding superstar blues guitarist and singer in Kansas City who is a 20 year old WOMAN. Young people are getting more into roots music. There is hope for music. I don't think it will die. There's even a renewed interest in vinyl. People like the way music sounds on vinyl. It has an artistic quality that doesn't exist on CD's. There IS hope. People ARE getting into REAL music again. Young people especially. We have a new harmonica player who is 26 years old from Russia. That KICKS ASS. Just my two cents...

For those Bandmixers that have read my posts on this subject over the last few years, I have repeatedly said this exact thing. It's ALL about image. Pop music today has NOTHING to do with the music. It's ALL about superficiality. Image. Hair styles. Look at Britney Spears' hot new body. From the conception of MtV to today it's all about style. Madonna is a superstar because she was one of the first huge MTV stars. Are you going to LISTEN to a Madonna CD 25 years from now? Is anybody? One of the reasons I was SO excited by the Susan Boyle phenomenon was FINALLY somebody being recognized for a spectacular singing voice. I am also hearing some much more redeeming new music. VOcals with intelligible lyrics are coming back in style. A lot of young musicians are getting into jazz. We have a budding superstar blues guitarist and singer in Kansas City who is a 20 year old WOMAN. Young people are getting more into roots music. There is hope for music. I don't think it will die. There's even a renewed interest in vinyl. People like the way music sounds on vinyl. It has an artistic quality that doesn't exist on CD's. There IS hope. People ARE getting into REAL music again. Young people especially. We have a new harmonica player who is 26 years old from Russia. That KICKS ASS. Just my two cents...

Fisherman, your $.02 is priceless...the more we change the more we remain the same...or at least we should remain the same. I have not seen the documentary yet because my computer is acting possessed.

I teach my students how to play classical by "forcing" them to listen to Aretha Franklin. They have to push themselves to the limits before anything piece can be considered performance level. Beethoven would have adored Aretha.

Pavaoroti (spelling?) not only adored Aretha Franklin but cried tears of joy when she subbed for him a number of years ago (Grammy awards show?) and SANG OPERA. I never would have imagined Aretha an opera singer. It's hard for me to imagine Aretha being as popular as she is today if she had tried to make it famous after the MTV era started. Nor would it have been possible for Janis Joplin to make it big after the MTV era started. Video DID ruin the music business, BUT I surmise real music is making a comeback. The superficiality fad I believe may FINALLY coming to a gradual end. Maybe even now I can make it big (well at least get some gigs at Kansas City area's worst dives...)

I thought, after seeing the results of it all, that it was obvious, even before I saw the vid...

Real music will never die. There will always be true audiophiles that know real music from what the media force feeds us. But real music will never know the popularity that it had before the media and mass music business started cranking out hits and "superstars" for the money. The number of real music audiophiles may be the same as it was years ago, but considering the increase in overall population, the percentage of audiophiles is decreasing. Yes, real music will never die, but neither will money grubbing marketeers of "pop" music.

I completely agree. Sadly (at least here in the UK) the saturation coverage of such marketeers is getting worse with more television hours than is healthy devoted to pop wannabees. As long as there are discerning and intelligent listeners, good music won't die out but the dwindling number of these people, along with the general dumbing down of the population, is cause for concern.

We shall educate them with our Axes !!!!

Pavaoroti (spelling?) not only adored Aretha Franklin but cried tears of joy when she subbed for him a number of years ago (Grammy awards show?) and SANG OPERA. I never would have imagined Aretha an opera singer. It's hard for me to imagine Aretha being as popular as she is today if she had tried to make it famous after the MTV era started. Nor would it have been possible for Janis Joplin to make it big after the MTV era started. Video DID ruin the music business, BUT I surmise real music is making a comeback. The superficiality fad I believe may FINALLY coming to a gradual end. Maybe even now I can make it big (well at least get some gigs at Kansas City area's worst dives...)

I remember when Aretha sang Opera. You never know what our industry might ask of us and I remember how proud I was of her when she did that. Now the reason I use Aretha Franklin as a role model is because I had a music teacher that did that to me. He told me to stop playing my the "numbers" and begin to play with soul...you know like Aretha Franklin. There is no way, you can perform badly when you are trying to immitate this woman.

Once I was a special guest in a music appreciation class in a highschool.This school was primarily was for at risk teens. I decided to play some Celtic music which went well. Then a kid said "Yeah, That was nice but you can't play hip hop." "What do you mean, I can't play hip hop." "Ican play anything!" So he plugged in his Ipod or whatever it was he had, into the computer and music began playing and I played along with it. Guess who was the coolest in the school.

Also like Ratsass says, real music will always exist. What's going to happen 20 years from now, the "commercialized music " around today will be extinct ... especially the music that uses re-mixes of music from back-in-the-day.