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Actually there would be a lot more peace if no one practiced religion. More people have died in the name of religion than for anything else. I don't give a crap what you believe, just don't pretend that you know you're right or that you can 'save' me. No one can 'prove' that they know the answer, unless God herself appears and sets us all straight.

I hope she appears as alanis morrisette like in the movie, Dogma! lol

Actually there would be a lot more peace if no one practiced religion. More people have died in the name of religion than for anything else. I don't give a crap what you believe, just don't pretend that you know you're right or that you can 'save' me. No one can 'prove' that they know the answer, unless God herself appears and sets us all straight.

I hope she appears as alanis morrisette like in the movie, Dogma! lol

That would be pretty great, wouldn't it Rev?!

Actually there would be a lot more peace if no one practiced religion. More people have died in the name of religion than for anything else. I don't give a crap what you believe, just don't pretend that you know you're right or that you can 'save' me. No one can 'prove' that they know the answer, unless God herself appears and sets us all straight.

Yep, I also lean towards the agnostic / buddism (philosophical) line of thinking. Not only have millions perished in the name of religions, but those religions themselves were more often than not condoning and performing torture and murder themselves, while at the same time preaching about peace and understanding.

Many others preach about non-believers of their specific religions being heathens, infidels, or a hundred other slanders that mean someone needs to die.

Meanwhile, NOT ONE of them can offer scientific, viable, or even logical proof that their religion is the correct (factual) one, or that they have anything to offer, other than "faith" and "hope"..

Sorry, but I'm one of those "poop in one hand and hope in the other" kind of thinkers.

NOW, all that being said.. I'm all for world peace, ending war, oppression, racism, etc.. So much for religious types having a monopoly on morality.

Actually there would be a lot more peace if no one practiced religion. More people have died in the name of religion than for anything else. I don't give a crap what you believe, just don't pretend that you know you're right or that you can 'save' me. No one can 'prove' that they know the answer, unless God herself appears and sets us all straight.

I read your post, and I agree with pretty much everything you wrote Jimmy. Wars with religion, "saving" people from spiritual damnation, "proving" a religion is right.

I think that if you have a system of beliefs that is right for you, be it religious, agnostic, atheistic, or whatever, then you're all the better for it. Our spiritual beliefs are part of what makes each of us special and unique. They moves us and make us better people, and that makes our beliefs right to each of us.

Yes, people have been killed in the name of "religion". Wrong religions.

People who have killed in the name of God were not real Christians.

The REAL Christians don't need to kill, because Jesus was the last sacrifice we needed.

And God HAS come down to set us all straight, you just refused to accept it.

More people have died in the name of religion than for anything else..

This is an anti-religion fallacy.

I've already shown this is not true.

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Mr Ryan Strain, you dont need no back up.
You nailed it on your first post.

Remeber my young entusiastic friend.
Spread the seed, you dont have to hammer it into the ground.
Just spread the seed.

Mr Ryan Strain, you dont need no back up.
You nailed it on your first post.

Remeber my young entusiastic friend.
Spread the seed, you dont have to hammer it into the ground.
Just spread the seed.

True...

I'll shut up now

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Ryan, when someone calls what you believe into question, it is your right to voice your opinion, don't be down if you are a solo voice in the argument, I understand how that feels, happens to me alot, but it doesn't stop me, though I am more often threatened with physical violence by christians than all the other religions in the world combined...and I have to wonder why a peace-love-based religion is the most outspokenly vicious?

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I am not saying we are all gods, I am saying we are all part of god.

and as for legality issues of my marijuana for spiritual use, I would like to address that during alcohol prohibition the christians went nuts and sued the government, and won, and were allowed to have up to 1 gallon of wine in their home at any given time throughout the duration of prohibition...needless to say america got very "religious" during prohibition as wine sales went up 100 times their norm, all you had to do to get a gallon of wine a day was be christian...

I find it interesting that Christians preach tolerance and acceptance, respect, etc..

Yet, most will claim the USA is a "Christian Nation"...

Although, as scummy as most of out fore-fathers were, their #1 priorities were freedom of religion (which includes freedom FROM religion), freedom of speech, one's ability to pursue happiness as they see fit, and the right to defend themselves from tyranny.

I just don't see any of that taking priority anymore, except in the fairy tales they keep repeating to us, as if we have any reason to believe it, other than because they say it's so.

Reality tells a far, far, different story.

I find it interesting that Christians preach tolerance and acceptance, respect, etc..

Yet, most will claim the USA is a "Christian Nation"...

Although, as scummy as most of out fore-fathers were, their #1 priorities were freedom of religion (which includes freedom FROM religion), freedom of speech, one's ability to pursue happiness as they see fit, and the right to defend themselves from tyranny.

I just don't see any of that taking priority anymore, except in the fairy tales they keep repeating to us, as if we have any reason to believe it, other than because they say it's so.

Reality tells a far, far, different story.

Well said

Mike I do believe that you get back what you put out You and I haven't been putting anything good toward each other, thus leaving no room for either of us to receive anything good from each other. I have ( between joust's) thought that I am wrong for continuing this. I offer a truce and a ground zero; I sure can't claim to have it all together myself and considering one of my main motto's " we are only qualified to judge our own self" I have no right to judge, but always an opportunity to build rather than tear down!


As for religion; I grew up in a fire and brimstone religion. By the age of 7 I was already convinced that I was lowly scum; I often acted accordingly.
I heard about God continuously, but I never any God in anything. If you want my trust don't tell me that you are "right with God" or that I need Jesus or God to see the beauty in life. Everything I saw in them was ugly, twisted and dank.

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