General Music Chat

Karaoke replaced alot of live venues. This may do something similar, or it may just take the place of Karaoke in places it already exists?

But John,

You are right. You have to find a way to adapt, no matter what new thing comes along. And if someone's band is bringing the people, that's all the club cares about at the end of the day. You'll get work somewhere.

But there is one particular benefit of these games that I have noticed. Kids are learning the classics. They know the words now to alot of Henrix and Zeppelin, AC/DC and many, many others. It is helping foster a surge in interest in Classic Rock and other genres.

I think that is a GOOD thing.

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If we teach kids that you can just mime a tune and it will account for a trash voice won't this make our goal pointless?

Never.


Rock Band is a video game. It's fun for people who enjoy it. So be it. But it will never replace real music. Are people going to be happy with recycled music for the next 100 years?

Not even.

There will always be people who want new music, and there will always be people willing to learn how to play a real instrument and craft real music. And there will always be people who appreciate the real over the carbon copy.

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Sod it I'm forgetting you guys have everything, apologies.
I'm not into Rock band, stuff it. Yes I think you could use it but I think this would only confirm what we already know.

You can play a tune without knowing anything.

I dunno mate. I've had two trades stripped through tech, however I intend to fight back.

If we teach kids that you can just mime a tune and it will account for a trash voice won't this make our goal pointless?

Chippy the places I play expect lights. Theres really nothing special about lights. We have smoke mini lasers, videos deals. We quit hauling a lot of it cause it took so long to tear down, plus I recently fired our soundman so Im doin that myself again.

What Im talking about is contest to get a crowd involved and make them want to stay there. Make it an event that people remember for one reason or another. Dont think cause you are so brilliant muscially that anyone cares. Every place I play, we can play the most complex intricate piece of music we know and people just look at you like what was that. Start off Sweet Home Alabama or Honky Tonk Women and people are on the dance floor.

One thing I think is cool about rock band is that there are a lot of songs on there that arent on the radio much. We play DP Highway Star and its on the commercials, so its introducing anew generation to things they wouldnt otherwise hear.

Chippy what is our goal?

Or what is your goal with music? My goal is to entertain people and make them feel better. If I need to put a lamp shade on my head for people that come see me to have a fun and memorable experience then Im willing to try it.

Its great to be serious about your craft and you should be, I know in a lot of post I sound like I dont care, but the reality is Ive probably forgotten more songs than most people ever learn in a lifetime of playing music. Its all a means to an end for me, and thats making someone that sees me play feel better tahn when they walked into the door. Ive probably been thru where you are now in terms of learning to play, so I can relate to where you are in all this, and I encourage you to be better, always strive to get ahead.

I wish you could come see one of the acoustic shows Im doing. We play a little of everything, last night I did King Of The Road, why cause the people sitting there tipping me knew the words and hummed thru it. I had 20 people singing this dumbass song that in a lot of ways I would rather not have played, But they got off on it and will come back. I learned it on the spot for them, dont turn your music into rocket science cause its not.

The rock band thing is here. As I said you can bitch about it or use it too your advantage. I dont know if we will, but I could see you having an hour long contest at your gigs for rock band, then your band could get up there and do the real thing. This is just an idea that someone can use. Just make sure you sound as good as the music on there!

Sod it I'm forgetting you guys have everything, apologies.
I'm not into Rock band, stuff it. Yes I think you could use it but I think this would only confirm what we already know.

You can play a tune without knowing anything.

I dunno mate. I've had two trades stripped through tech, however I intend to fight back.

If we teach kids that you can just mime a tune and it will account for a trash voice won't this make our goal pointless?

Chippy the places I play expect lights. Theres really nothing special about lights. We have smoke mini lasers, videos deals. We quit hauling a lot of it cause it took so long to tear down, plus I recently fired our soundman so Im doin that myself again.

What Im talking about is contest to get a crowd involved and make them want to stay there. Make it an event that people remember for one reason or another. Dont think cause you are so brilliant muscially that anyone cares. Every place I play, we can play the most complex intricate piece of music we know and people just look at you like what was that. Start off Sweet Home Alabama or Honky Tonk Women and people are on the dance floor.

One thing I think is cool about rock band is that there are a lot of songs on there that arent on the radio much. We play DP Highway Star and its on the commercials, so its introducing anew generation to things they wouldnt otherwise hear.

Chippy what is our goal?

Or what is your goal with music? My goal is to entertain people and make them feel better. If I need to put a lamp shade on my head for people that come see me to have a fun and memorable experience then Im willing to try it.

Its great to be serious about your craft and you should be, I know in a lot of post I sound like I dont care, but the reality is Ive probably forgotten more songs than most people ever learn in a lifetime of playing music. Its all a means to an end for me, and thats making someone that sees me play feel better tahn when they walked into the door. Ive probably been thru where you are now in terms of learning to play, so I can relate to where you are in all this, and I encourage you to be better, always strive to get ahead.

I wish you could come see one of the acoustic shows Im doing. We play a little of everything, last night I did King Of The Road, why cause the people sitting there tipping me knew the words and hummed thru it. I had 20 people singing this dumbass song that in a lot of ways I would rather not have played, But they got off on it and will come back. I learned it on the spot for them, dont turn your music into rocket science cause its not.

The rock band thing is here. As I said you can bitch about it or use it too your advantage. I dont know if we will, but I could see you having an hour long contest at your gigs for rock band, then your band could get up there and do the real thing. This is just an idea that someone can use. Just make sure you sound as good as the music on there!

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August 31, 2009

Forget karaoke . . . 'Rock Band: Bar Nights'

The 'Rock Band' franchise has taken on all comers in the home and done pretty well for itself, and now Harmonix and MTV Games are looking to branch out into your favorite bar with 'Rock Band: Bar Nights.'

The new program offers participating bars a way to host 'Rock Band' parties, complete with two guitars, drums and vocals. Bars will also get their own version of the home 'Rock Band' store, where bar owners/managers can download songs they think match their clientele, and there will be social network support via Facebook and Twitter.

If bars register before Sept. 8, they will also receive a five-song demo disc for the upcoming 'The Beatles: Rock Band' (due Sept. 9, along with remastered versions of all their CDs).

As someone who has seen many late nights at bars, I know the line separating "singing along with Journey on the jukebox" and 'Rock Band' is very, very thin. The success would really depend on the bar's ambience.

Naturally, a place that already hosts karaoke -- such as The Living Room -- would do well, especially if they could arrange the stage to be slightly elevated. Likewise, the Front Page could do it either in their new outdoor "patio" or in the non-smoking Applebee's-esque back half.

Bars (and bar-goers interested in going to 'Rock Band: Bar Nights') can find more at the program's Web site.

ROCK BAND - BAR NIGHTS: http://www.rockband.com/BarNights/

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This should come as no surprise. I mean.....some people, I think their people, listen to Rap.

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Chippy my only advice to you is get out there in the real world and just do it!

Im sorry but I dont really get where your post are coming from today. Maybe British Sarcasm, that an ole redneck like me doesnt understand.

Theres open mic nights everywhere that you can participate in. In the grand scheme of things I wish Disco had never happened, or Karaoke, or Rock Band but once they are uncorked on the world theres is nothing you can do but embrace it in some positive way. In my pa rack we have a cd player, we play the disco songs that people want to dance to that we dont play. Believe it or not we invite people to sing with us or play with us. Theres nothing like sitting back and hearing someone else play your guitar and amp w your band. So thats kind of karoake, whats next live rock band. If you could be the live backing track for a rock band contest, I think that would be cool and could set a band apart form the pack in some way, just an idea.

We at one gig did bring in a video game and play thru the projectors and screens that we have. Went over great. They were playing Grand Theft auto, the only problem they didnt want us to cut the game off. Kinda weird having a guy with a game controller standing in front of you while you are playing. Maybe we should have put up the Duck game and we could have been dodging bullets.

Thanks for the props on my gifts for music, I really appreciate it when someone says that, Ive never been good on compliments cause whether you realize it I am one of the most serious people on these forums. If I tell someone I can play something, I can play it, period. Kinda knowing something doesnt cut it in this game. I try to share whatever knowledge I have gotten from this business to people like yourself who are either just getting started or are getting restarted after a hiatus. I feel thats what these forums should be about.

I hope you have a great afternoon.

Rock On

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I think musicians whom pour so much of themselves into their craft, heart and soul, sometimes forget that at the bottom line we are entertainment.
To the masses thats just entertainment. They have no way of knowing or realising how much of ourselves may go into a three minute song. What we do is much more important to us than to the average joe who will hear us. I begin to see and understand this now that I am the one out there playing the shows, not just knocking back a cold one and watching.
It would be the same for the painter of the "masterpiece of his life"
To him it's his heart and soul. (swoon) To me it's just a few dollars of paint on a canvas. It doesnt even look like a horse I say, and he is offended beyond belief.
Let us not forget, we are the entertainment, not the holders of the last acre of wheat on the planet.

Perspective.

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