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amen to you on that Craig, but here is the missing link that you have been looking for in that argument, and the proof is in the animal kingdom where homosexuality also exists, in animals incapable of choosing...but the missing link is that we do choose...before we choose a vessel (and many are created daily) we know what handicaps, if any, that vessel will hold. Handicaps give a different perspective on the human experience and some choose to live those lives for those experiences, same with homosexuality...these concepts, handicaps and homosexuality, did not exist when we were all energy. These are the side effects of being solid. Energies return to this earth, usually a few generations down the line within the same family, but sometimes otherwise. We come for specific experiences that we cant understand in the energy form til we've lived them in the solid form.

Free Will being the most interesting to most, since when in our energy form, we are one with the father, and therefor work as one not as an individual.

I am not saying that our lives are predetermined, and destined in any way, I merely state that we choose the vessel and all its faults or gifts and circumstances in advance. So when we complain of pains or poverty, this is the life we chose...pray on it Craig, you'll see. You are destined for great things for god, but first you must see what you've been seeing through...Its always been there, you could feel it, can feel it. Many recent signs should be ringing in your mind's eye right now. Trust your instinct, the time IS now, your role is needed. Will you accept?

before we choose a vessel (and many are created daily) we know what handicaps, if any, that vessel will hold.



Handicaps give a different perspective on the human experience and some choose to live those lives for those experiences, same with homosexuality...these concepts, handicaps and homosexuality, did not exist when we were all energy. These are the side effects of being solid. Energies return to this earth, usually a few generations down the line within the same family, but sometimes otherwise. We come for specific experiences that we cant understand in the energy form til we've lived them in the solid form.

Free Will being the most interesting to most, since when in our energy form, we are one with the father, and therefor work as one not as an individual.

Reincanation is a fallacy. We are not reincarnated. At least not in the traditonal sense. The "evidence" for reincarnation has another explanation. One I discovered many years ago. God imparts his "spark" the "breath of life" (spiritual not physical) and when He does so, it is a NEW life. Completely new, without history. Not reincarnated, not recycled in any way. It can be argued that it is not completely new, because of the ORIGINAL spark, that is of God that He imparts, but because of our physical nature, the ability to choose, the free will he allows us, it "IS" new, albeit infused with a part of God.

Reincarnation seems to make a lot of sense, when cases are discovered of children or others, who are found to have knowledge of "past lives" or the ability to speak "other languages" which they never studied for, or learned about, to their family's knowledge. And when the minute details of the testimony are found to be true, and it is clear that the child could not possibly have had pre-knowledge of this other life, then yes, reincarnation seems at first glance, a perfectly plausible explanation. It just happens to be the WRONG explanation.

Many years ago, an experiement was done with a particular type of worm. One that was cannibalistic. It was to determine whether "knowledge" could actually be passed on PHYSICALLY. Computers retain information on a hard drive. Our brains as well, STORE memory like a computer... PHYSICALLY. We know that we can RETRIEVE information at will, from a hard drive. Maybe the same could be done with a human brain? This would open the door to some exciting possibilities, like possibly simply INSTALLING the knowledge of mechanics directly into a brain, like you would load a computer program. Why would this not be possible one day, knowing that memory IS stored physically in our brains.

EXPERIMENT:

So these researches found a type of worm that was cannabilistic for this experiment. Because they would eat their own kind. The first control group, was sent through a maze. The worms found their way through the maze. Then these "experienced" worms were FED to another group of worms. And put through the same maze. The control group of worms, who had eaten the experienced worms, made it through the maze, in half the time as the group that did not have this benefit. What this indicated, was that, not only could knowledge be PASSED ON, it could actually be INGESTED and retained and understood.

I immediately realized that if PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES could be INGESTED, then most certainly they could be passed on through DNA! The discovery many years ago of the remains of a woman nicknamed "Eve" in sub saharan Africa, was found to be related, by DNA, to ALL LIVING HUMAN BEINGS. She shares DNA with all humans alive on the planet right now. This does not mean that she was the FIRST ancestor by any means, but what it does mean, is that if there were different branches at one time, they died out. Hers survived. In other words, "Eve" is in ALL OF OUR FAMILY TREES. If you go back far enough, she is a distant relative to EVERY ONE LIVING, including all those here on BandMix!

This means that the world IS A FAMILY, and OF THE SAME LINEAGE. This is wonderful and beautiful in and of itself, and gives one hope for world peace, if we could begin to internalize this truth more seriously. But for the purposes of OUR discussion on reincarnation, it has additional implications. If knowledge and experiences (memories) can be passed down through DNA, and WE ARE ALL RELATED through DNA, then it is more likely that a very distant relative of someone who lived long ago, even if they lived in France, or Timbukto, rather than a reincarnation experience, is what is occuring. It is a REAL MEMORY, but from a distant ancestor.

The people who believe they have lived previous lives, in a small way, DID LIVE THOSE LIVES, because their ancestor lived them, the memory of which is now a part of this person's DNA, and somehow, in a way we cannot recreate yet on purpose, they have momentarily TAPPED INTO those memories from a previous life. And feel them, as if they were their own.


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Vlad the Impailer, Vlad the Horrible, Vlad the Putin ( )... all the EVIL Vlad's that are bringing the world to an end!!!

Vlad the Impailer, Vlad the Horrible, Vlad the Putin ( )... all the EVIL Vlad's that are bringing the world to an end!!!

LOL

Vlad the Putin!

LMAO!

He is capable of alot of evil.

But he is a good economics student!

The Russian economy has transformed. He cut unemployment in half, increased GDP by 72%. And average monthly salaries in Russia went from $80 to $640 a seven fold increase.

What economic policies did he pursue?

A Flat Income Tax, set at 13%

And he lowered taxes on business profits.


Let the people who are employed keep more of their money, and they have more money to buy things from businesses.

Let the businesses keep more of their profits, and they have more money to go out and create new businesses.

When new businesses are created, they need workers.

Unemployment goes down.

Common sense works in Russia.

But the current administration doesn't believe common sense will work in America I guess?


Russia becomes more like we used to be and succeeds economically, while we pursue being more like they used to be.

Breadlines and Borsch Soup anyone?

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a flat tax may work in russia, but it really would not work here in the US> right now, the wealthiest 10% of Americans pay 90% of income taxes. While the poorest 40% pay no income taxes at all (speaking only of federal income tax, not medicare tax and not social security tax) in fact as many as 25% of americans recieve an Earned Income Credit for which they get refunds for money they didn't even pay. A family of 5 can get a refund of almost 5000 dollars plus what was actually withheld. A flat tax could not work in the US because there is no equal distribution of funds. Putin made it successful because NO ONE in russia had any money, so a flat tax was fair and balanced. you would have to balance everyone out in the US before initiating that.

I want to see LOWER taxes for middle class Americans. Middle Class Americans pay around 25% in income tax. This is OBSCENE!!

Income tax should be ILLEGAL in the first place.

Income is NOT A PROFIT, it is a BARTER, a TRADE.

You are trading WORK for MONEY.

An equal exchange. There is no profit.

How do you tax.... WORK?

It may be that a flat sales tax is a better solution, and then we can end income tax altogether.

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I agree Craig, the tax shouldn't be there, but it is a constitutional amendment that put it there, you'd need a constitutional amendment to repeal it. Good luck finding a 75% majority.

Middle class pay 35%, is a more accurate figure, because the bar has been lowered for the income guidelines to be considered middle class. Then the Upper Class pay 40%, the lowest income families receive refunds of monies they didn't pay. Ok, these numbers dont add up at all...this only accounts for 75%...oh thats right, the richest 10% of the country pay only 25%, less than the middle class, and who bears the burden of the ones who get refunds in excess of what they paid? betcha it also becomes the middle class burden.

There is no sense to any of it, thats why it takes thousands of lawyers to draw up tax code.

but don't be too dismayed, it wont last much longer. Nothing will

Craig I hope you continue to follow my blog, I think there is something there that would interest you.

Craig I hope you continue to follow my blog, I think there is something there that would interest you.

When I was a young adult, I thought I was a very good person. When my wife divorced me, I was forced to accept that I wasn't the person I thought I was... all the time, and where it mattered most.

It changed my life.

I have been able to say "I was wrong" ever since, without any difficulty. I also began the work of making myself into the person I thought I was then, and the person I one day hope to become.

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Craig, I was wondering if you are an activist within your local news forums, as I am? I am frequently posting and debating in the forums about things I feel passionate about. They don't always post my replies, but if I keep on topic, they will. I am starting to see alot of support in the forums as apposed to the oposition of months ago. I would like to invite you to join our discussions, infact, anyone can feel free to join the discussions. We are at WSAZ dot com, just pick an article that you feel you want to comment on and go for it, you can search for me by Rev Mike and find the articles I've commented on, inspiring religious debate and reform debate of all kinds, some very intelligent debate mixed in among all the idiots who must live in a bubble inside their heads because their comments are SO stupid...my goodness, if you are an educated adult, why do you act so childish and naive in a public forum? Anyway, hope to see you in the forums there...more appropriate place than this music sight for debate on news issues anyway...

Gee, kids! Have you considered Eckenkar? It teaches that ALL religions are right & "true," & that your reward in the next life is the one you choose in this one.

There are 7 levels of existence that your soul must go through. This one is ruled by "Satan," if you will, which supposedly explains the wars, the frustrations, the death of a child, the "unfairness of it all," etc...

When you live through your 7 levels successfully, hopefully without having to repeat too many times in any given area, you are ready for "enlightenment,"whatever the heck that is in their minds...& all will be well.

At least that's the gist of it that I got...

There are a myriad religions out there, & they make a lot of sense to the individuals involved...I just can't seem to accept the judeo-christian-islamic views, myself.

Nearly everything I've looked into has seemed too full of holes, or to have what seems to me to be fickle gods, if not downright evil ones. I decided decades ago to sort of go my own way in this area, & while it hasn't solved all of life's problems, I really don't think it's supposed to. There's just this sh*t that we're supposed to go through as well as we can, without hurting others if we can avoid it.

As far as prophesies are concerned, they're too often self-fulfiling, & even when they aren't, I find that there's little if anything that I can do about them, so why worry?

Phil,

You have some good points there. I am familiar with Eckankar, and there are quite a few other religions as well, which believe there are multiple paths to God, or that all religions are true or should be revered.

I tend to agree with this.

My litmus test is quite simple. Is the group doing good things. Are they teaching truths common to most religions? If they are doing good, and inspiring others to do the same, the question is then: Where does good come from, if not from God? Are they being inspired to do good by satan or by some evil force? I don't think so. Therefore, they HAVE been inspired by God. But like all things that START out good, we can overdo things, or cross lines, and forget the simple inspiration that inspired us to begin with.

Religion was supposed to be a TOOL, and not a PURPOSE.

When religion becomes the PURPOSE, it has ceased to be the tool it was meant to be.

And ultimately, we are responsible FIRST for our own spiritual lives. Our own relationship to God. A religion is merely a COMMUNITY of such believers and seekers, meant to strengthen one another, and support one another. But is starts with OURSELVES. A relationship, well, the deepest relationships ARE PERSONAL.

Think about the deepest relationships we usually have, our spouse, our children. Are your deepest personal moments with your wife, when you bring 5 friends over? Are your deepest moments with your child, happening by bringing a bowling league over to read her a bedtime story? No. She is YOUR wife. These are YOUR children. Moments of greatest intimacy are PRIVATE and EXCLUSIVE. So it is with God. So, you SHOULD, in that respect, find your own way, and work out your own relationship with God. That's the basis for a life long relationship of any kind!

Communities are important too. But it starts with the personal relationship.

And you aren't the only one having problems with the Judeo/Christian/Muslim experience, finding judgement in them.

ALL THREE RELIGIONS are rooted in Abraham, the father of ALL THREE FAITHS. And yet, we fight as if timeless enemies. This is not God's hope. And amazingly, when you look at them, through a national lense, they are ALL INTERDEPENDENT on one another. America is considered a Christian nation, because of the overwhelming percentage of population here that are Christian. And yet we depend on oil from Muslim nations to maintain a solid economy. The Muslim nations with oil, depend on a Christian nation... America, to supply them with food (they live in a widespread desert area). A Jewish nation, Israel, depends on a Christian nation to be allies, and help defend them, cause they are SURROUNDED by Muslim nations that want to destroy them. If I am not mistaken, I think I remember reading that some of the Muslim nations depend on Israel for housing and building materials as well, because though they are surrounded by sand, it is the wrong kind for making bricks. They literally have to import sand from somehwere else.

I believe God has created this interdependency. It is His way. Just as humans and animals are dependent on plants for oxygen, and plants are often dependent on animals and insects for procreation. There is an interdependency in nature itself.

This is by design.

But whether we learn the lessons of how God created and why, remains to be seen. We will learn them again. The real question is, what will it take to wake us all up?

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Gee, kids! Have you considered Eckenkar? It teaches that ALL religions are right & "true," & that your reward in the next life is the one you choose in this one.

There are 7 levels of existence that your soul must go through. This one is ruled by "Satan," if you will, which supposedly explains the wars, the frustrations, the death of a child, the "unfairness of it all," etc...

When you live through your 7 levels successfully, hopefully without having to repeat too many times in any given area, you are ready for "enlightenment,"whatever the heck that is in their minds...& all will be well.

At least that's the gist of it that I got...



There are a myriad religions out there, & they make a lot of sense to the individuals involved...I just can't seem to accept the judeo-christian-islamic views, myself.

Nearly everything I've looked into has seemed too full of holes, or to have what seems to me to be fickle gods, if not downright evil ones. I decided decades ago to sort of go my own way in this area, & while it hasn't solved all of life's problems, I really don't think it's supposed to. There's just this sh*t that we're supposed to go through as well as we can, without hurting others if we can avoid it.

As far as prophesies are concerned, they're too often self-fulfiling, & even when they aren't, I find that there's little if anything that I can do about them, so why worry?

Eckmaster Harold Klemp has astrol-projected, however, he has never left the earthly confines, he doesn't use the proper tools to see the origin. Though alot of what he teaches is the same thing I teach.

CraigMaxim"]Phil,




Are they teaching truths common to most religions?

trouble with that Craig, is, as you know, I follow gnostic christian practices which are not common to all religions and neither is Eckankar, however, there is a BASIS IN TRUTH behind it all, and that basis is easy to get to in our church, I'm sure you can feel god's presence in your own life, I always did before I found this religion, now I not only feel it, I see it, speak with it regularly, and bask in it. But again, to each his own, I am happy to show my way to anyone who wants to learn it, as are you. As long as we keep talking about it and doing the things that are common in all, at least in theory, love and do no harm, we will be fine in the end.