General Music Chat

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who said anything about a messiah? I simply think you seem to be claiming to be a false one.

What a sucky job description that would be. LOL


Go back and read the post before this one. We posted at almost the same time, and I have a feeling you missed it.

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craig, your suffering is duly noted, and you would likely not be surprised to hear that I went through that same path. I started as a Catholic serving as an alter boy. A priest once told me, read the bible Mike, not just the parts they read in church. So I did. That priest left shortly after telling me that, and I later found out he left the clergy.

After reading the bible, I began to question priests, so they started asking me not to come to the churches anymore. So I moved on to each protestant faith I could find, I've studied with mormons and jehovah's witnesses, baptists, lutherans, I was an episcopal youth and music minister for several years, I looked through them all, what I couldn't see first hand, I read all the literature I could find on them. I drove a commercial truck for several years just so I could get religious perspective from all over the country and canada too.

Throughout high school, i joined clubs and started organizations through training for peer counseling. I always skipped classes when needed by someone to lean on. Wound up dropping out due to the needs of a person and joining the military, believe it or not, working closely with the chaplain on base, I even received citations for it, but I've always wound up right where I needed to be for someone when they needed my special gifts. I've always been considered insightful.

Sounds like its not that bad, right, well inside of all that I got to see human suffering, mostly at the hands of other humans, and I've seen evil like you'd never want to encounter. I've been pushed to the precipice and stood there calling out for god, and believing I received him. I have been filled with the spirit on many occasions, and I've preached to thousands of the "good news".

Throughout good and bad times, I've always continued to seek him. There has to be a closer connection was the thought that always drove me, I never understood why. On many occasions in my calling as a minister, I was in situations that required people to develop a special trust with me in order to open up, and that occasionally meant smoking marijuana. I'd heard all the things about it being the devils weed, but I also heard more believable and true sentiment from the other side of the issue. I became an advocate of marijuana as a safer alternative to alcohol and everything else out there. I was still a cross wearing, bible thumping christian then, but Genesis 1:29 always reassured me that weed was ok by god.

I then saw a show on the history channel about all the missing bible books, so I looked further into them. Many good things missing I thought, then I kept reading. Once I read all I could find, it left me questioning alot of the practices of my church.

Then one night, after a particularly stressful time helping someone, I sat down to pray and smoke a little weed.

That night I was filled with the spirit like I had never been before, to the point that I almost thought I was dying and I got frightened. I knew I didn't have a clean soul to present to god, I am human, but when the fear passed, and the extreme rushing sensation passed, and I was able to slow down what I had just experienced, I realized i had been in the presence of god. I wanted to go there again, but didn't know how I did it to begin with. Upon stumbling there again a subsequent time, I was able to get a better grasp of the situation, though it took more than a year to really understand what I was doing and how to control it. Once I had that understanding, I was able to make real contact with god. It was then he showed me the real history, and how we are all a part of him, completely his equal out of this life. He made it clear that he was not even a he, just an energy, one energy with many many voices. Each voice equal and individual.

The point is, I have been where you are and have since taken the next step. I don't have to or want to pressure you into taking this next step. I am simply saying that it is here.

If it is in your heart to truly seek god, and not just the dogma, then you will continue to converse with me I'm sure. If you ask questions, I'll give you the answers that I am given. I cannot create the link between you and the origin, that is up to you, I can only show you how to use the tools given to open that door yourself. Obviously you are a seeker. I only encounter seekers these days. Everyone I meet anymore, I am compelled to this conversation because they are spiritually thirsty. I do not disparage anyone for their beliefs, if you're happy with your relationship with god, then so be it, enjoy yourself. But if you are like me, like you craig, and many more out there, you are a seeker and will never be satisfied until you find for yourself what you seek. I have.

Mike,

Yes, we have had some similar experiences. We are both seekers.

But to me, you are a little like a kid who has begun learning chess, and someone teaches him the "Fool's Mate" and he runs around challenging everyone with it, and prides himself that he is better than the other kids. Until he plays an experienced chess player, and reality sets in.

I really don't mean this to be demeaning. Most kids never learn chess. A child learning chess is more advanced already, than those who don't even bother. But like that same child, you have far to go. And if your enthusiasm doesn't ruin you completely, you may very well get there.

You are dealing with a very advanced player.

The deep knowledge I possess, I rarely share publicly, and have pretty much never shared in depth online. But I do share on a personal level, one on one, with those who are seeking, and those who are ready to grow beyond their comfort zone. I have always known that much of what I know will be shared on a very large scale one day, but the time has never been right for that. I feel it is getting very close now however. The main reason I have not shared many things publicly, is because God hasn't made that way for me yet. It has been almost excrutiating, to know what I know, and not really be allowed to reveal it on a large scale, but God is God. He knows the times and the seasons. It has been a 40 year course for me. A path of training. But that day is coming soon. There are only a few years left.

You have a reasonable heart, but you are still naive, and too quick to make improper judgements, that lead you down back alleys.

You have me pegged as some sort of traditional fundamental bible thumper, who is imprisoned by tradition and regimented cultural beliefs.

You can ask Sans, and he will assure you, that I am ANYTHING but a normal Christian. He probably wonders sometimes if I even deserve to call myself a Christian.

You on the other hand, are FREE.

Free from tradition. Free from the evil church leaders who have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. Free from the outdated and ill-conceived Bible.

But you are NOT free.

You act like most people do. Going to one extreme, getting disappointed, and fleeing to the other extreme in response. This is not maturity. It is naivety. It is how most people in the world react, until they have matured. And many never do.

The recent elections are a perfect example. Taking us from one extreme (Bush) to another (Obama). We've paid a price for one, and we'll pay worse for this new extreme. Sadly, most Democrats only believe in conspiracy theories when it involves conservatives, or they would be very concerned, with the number of radicals, communists and the like, that Obama has brought into positions as Csars. Some were avowed communists. Others have been violent radicals in groups that today, would be called terroristic. One has even championed allowing animals to testify in court. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP! - I don't think most democrats signed up for giving equal status UNDER THE LAW and IN COURTROOMS, to animals.

But similarly, going from one extreme to another, has caused you to throw out the baby with the bathwater. You have already basically discarded a book, The Bible, that you never fully understood.

Because someone has advanced to algebra, does not mean that textbooks teaching basic mathematics, no longer have value, and should be rejected. One is based on the other. They are steps to a higher plain.

I haven't shared much of what God has shown me PERSONALLY, because it is powerful, both spiritually and intellectually, and some people who are not ready for it, realize much of the truth of it, but rather than elevate them, it defeats them spiritually, because it means a change in life. They have gotten comfortable with the culture they belong to. If they suddenly found an advanced form of their faith, and it contradicts some, or even much, of what they share with their pastor and congregations on a daily basis, what would that mean to them?

Do they remain in that church and stay silent? Does this mean they know more, in many ways, than the pastor of their own church does, who studied in seminary? How is that possible they wonder? They are limited in their own knowledge. They go to the pastor for the heavy or complicated stuff. He's studied the New Testament in the original Greek, how could I suddenly know things he doesn't? Maybe this is a test from satan? What should I do? Then maybe they DO take the chance and get a meeting with their pastor. Who then tells them YES, you are being tested. These things have been worked out already by great men like Calvin, St. Augustine, Spurgeon and so on.

What service is provided, giving truths such as these to devoted congregants, in whom it merely becomes a series of doubts they then struggle with, maybe even separating them from faith altogether?

The fact remains, that as outdated as almost all churches are today, theologically, they are still COMMUNITIES OF BELIEVERS who do good in the world, who strengthen one another in a moral lifestyle, who do good works, and try to raise their children to become good people.

It is a delicate matter.

It will unfold at God's choosing. Not mine, and not yours.

What you should understand, is that much of the Bible is still misunderstood, even by the greatest of theologians. When the time is right for higher understanding, and it is. Then like mathematics, you do not malign the earlier textbooks, you honor them, you explain them further, you allow them to be what they are, a stepping stone AWAY from a more primitive truth, and simultaneously, a stepping stone TOWARD a higher truth. If I were to teach algebra to someone, I would be able to open the earlier textbook, and BEGIN THERE, to prove to them, how the higher math, is a part of, and related to, the more advanced math. If you cannot show a faithful and KNOWLEDGEABLE Christian, THROUGH THE BIBLE, the foundations of what you are now trying to bring them, and PROVE IT THERE FIRST, in the sacred and God inspired book, that they honor and revere. You have LOST before beginning.

ANYONE who trashes the stepping stones of a FOUNDATIONAL truth, while claiming to be giving a HIGHER TRUTH, should be avoided. Because they ARE LOST and about to lead you down the path of confusion, rather than the path to a greater knowledge of God.

You need to pray more, and be very cautious, because you are making elementary mistakes on the quest for deeper spirituality and godliness.

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btw...

Just to prove the point. Christ Jesus told those who listened, that he had not come to DESTROY the law, but to FULFILL the law. Early Christians did not decide that because the veil had been lifted so much more by Jesus, than the prophets of old, that they should now just put away the Tanahk, or question it's value, or debate it's inspiration, or develop conspiracy theories around it.

No sir.

THEY KNEW, the Old Testament was inspired of God, just as the New Testament is. They BUILT UPON the former. They did not disparage it, or demean it. YOU should approach any truth YOU BELIEVE you have been given by God, in the same way!

Be very careful.

Speaking for God, is not a game.

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you are right about the time being very close, you are right about all the people in the current administration, you will understand why I giggle to myself when I say its a 1 term thing regardless of what happens in November of 2012 if you are truly enlightened as you think. I'm not the ego maniac you make me out to be, and Ive said from the beginning its all based in truth, but you are free to believe what ever you believe. You cant convince me that I need to go further because I know what I have seen with my own two eyes, heard with my own two ears...and have shared with many. Perhaps I am mistaken about you. If you feel that you have a message to get out as passionately as you explain, then its my job to tell you that sign you have been waiting for is here. Speak up and get the process started. If you are who you think you are, it will spread like the wildfires in california! Get to it now...

and I have to say, you are gravely mistaken if you think I have thrown out the bible...I have only thrown out the idea that it is the word of god it once was, perhaps when jesus taught from it, but it is not Jesus' bible, and the gospels about jesus were very obviously taylor made to maintain certain control, the ones removed were not like that.

but I rely on that book quite a bit as a basis in truth, but nothing more. There are passages in it that are very relevant, some of the correct message got through the rest of the nonsense.

Now don't you have something to say Craig?

You know, if you really are the messenger, you know you've been ignoring the signs, and that is why our paths have crossed. if you are he, you know you have to get started, it is not your time schedule you are putting off. Always remember this:

Mark 6:4

I'm told to remind you, Craig, that each individual relationship with "god" is as personal as any other friendship. There are times when we don't always share everything with every friend. Sometimes, we have completely different relationships with each friend we have and we, none of us (told to me in a scolding manner) should question the validity of any declared relationship if the seeker is sure they have found what they saught. So my apologies for questioning you, now get to it.

So my apologies for questioning you, now get to it.

Yeah brother, funny you should say that...


I don't recall if I shared this here or not, but my ex-wife had a vision of the antichrist and the last days, after we had finished traveling for 2 or 3 weeks with a group of missionaries from South America. My ex-wife is from Peru, and though her English was more limited at the time, she was asked to translate for these missionaries, on this 3 week trip throughout 3 states, while they saw various ministries here in America, and they shared their experiences starting churches in their country. What she didn't realize at first, until we were in the midst of it all, was that part of her job was going to be translating their pastor for congregations here in America.

She was terrified, because her English was poor. But the Holy Spirit would come on her, and she translated amazingly well, and would be surprised at the end, wondering where many of the English words came from, since they were not words she used herself. It was VERY spiritual, and VERY powerful, and many hearts were moved on this trip, and this enabled these missionaries to get alot of support for continuing their work of starting churches and schools in places that didn't have either.

When we got home, we felt a great sense of accomplishment, and were on a high spiritual level. She crashed, and was dead asleep, but I was too awake to go to sleep right away. Then I saw them. Two angels blowing trumpets or horns of some kind, and they began rising up through the ceiling, until they were completely out of site.

I have done drugs in the past that made my heart race like hell, and NO DRUG I HAVE EVER TRIED made my heart beat out of my chest like seeing what I saw did. I was afraid to look at my own chest, because for one, I couldn't take my eyes off the angels, but secondly, I was afraid that my heart was literally outside of my chest, like I could put my hand around it if I just put my hand on my chest. I mean, I thought I could be having a heart attack at first, but was immediately comforted, that everything was fine. And I felt God say "Job well done". As if the angels were a visual confirmation that God had been pleased for the sacrifices and work we had done for these missionaries from an impoverished country.

My ex-wife slept through the whole thing, and it was reminiscent of many such experiences I had read about in the Bible before, where everyone around was almost magically put to sleep, and nothing would wake them, except for one guy, who was meant to be awake, and then something spiritual occurred, that only he was meant to see. And then other experiences where people were in the presence of angels, and felt like they were going to die, and in one case, actually DID die, because it gave him a heart attack, the shock of the event he was witnessing. This is EXACTLY how that felt.

The next day, my ex-wife was in the room with me, and I was on the computer, and God gave her a vision. A vision... meaning... seeing a movie before her eyes, different scenes, and yet her eyes are open, and she is not sleeping. That kind of vision.

The vision was of the last days. She saw the antichrist, He was in a powerful position. The scene changes to his bedroom, and he is laying on the bed, with his shirt off, and surrounded by other men. He is homosexual or at least bi-sexual, but the world doesn't know this. She saw his face, hair and features very clearly. I can't remember all the things that transpired now, but it wasn't a long vision. She told me that she had received visions before, but very rarely, and when they happened, what she had seen, always occurred later. I took this VERY seriously, and asked her to tell me the vision again, while I sat down at my computer and typed everything she told me.

This was quite awhile back. 10 or 12 years ago.

I am sharing this story, because she sent me a message on MySpace several days ago.

I have not talked to her in 5 or 6 years, since a little while after we divorced. She was a VERY devout Christian, and also a worker for God. Not being Catholic, she has faced a great deal of persecution from her own family, for "betraying" the Catholic faith, and joining a more Protestant type brand of Christianity. In her own country, she was so committed to reaching people for Jesus, that she occassionaly left her house, though she was still a young girl, and would take a bus to other cities, and go preach to people on the streets, and lead them to faith in Christ. One such night, she had missed an earlier bus, and had to remain there until late at night, waiting for another one to take her home. She saw two men fighting with knives, and she ran in between them, and pointed at them and said to them sternly and seriously, with authority "You need Jesus!"

They dropped down to their knees in that very moment. BOTH OF THEM! And she began peaching to them about faith in Jesus, and in tears, they asked God for salvation, and found the Lord. This is the kind of faith she has. Being this kind of person, I always felt sure that God had brought us together for a powerful reason. And I felt this had been confirmed later, even after marriage, when I discovered how she had received her name.

We always thought it was cool, that BOTH of us had 4 names to our full name.

Even though she was from Peru and I was American.

But only AFTER marriage, did I realize that like me, her family always called her by one of her middle names, and also like me, she not only had her PERSONAL name, that the family called her by, but also her mother's name, and her grandmother's name. 3 generations in one name. Same with me. I have my personal name (one of my middle names) and my father's name and my grandfather's name. How coincidental is that? I took it as a sign at the time.

Nevertheless, she was a VERY jealous woman, enslavingly so, and though I had never cheated in any relationship I had been in, nothing could convince her of my loyalty. I assumed this would be dismissed as time went by, and she saw what a faithful partner I was. But rather than improve, the more I gave into her ridiculous demands on this, the worse she would get, to the point that I would get migrains when we went out and other people were around, cause I knew the qustions would start coming: "Why did you look at her? Did you like her?" etc... Her father's unfaithfulness to her mother, gave her a deep rooted fear of unfaithfulness and abandonment. I put up with it all, believing things would get better over time, but after 10 years it only got worse.

THEN - 9/11 HAPPENED.

She was out of the country at the time, getting dental work done in Peru, and I woke up after the first plane had hit, and I turned on the news. I saw the first tower smoking, but all that was known was that a plane had hit the building, but no one knew why yet. As I watched the amazing scene, it happened... the second plane hit the other tower, I was dumfounded to be sitting there watching this live on TV. After that one, there was no doubt what was happening. Then another plane hit the Pentagon, and a fourth plane went down in a field, and all air traffic across the country was grounded for the first time in our nation's history, and EVERYONE remembers what they were feeling at the time. It felt to me, like the world was falling apart. That for all we knew, this was only the beginning. Who knew if more was to come? I started realizing that I could very well die anytime for all I knew. Maybe a bomb would be set off in Atlanta next? No one knew what this would mean at the time. I started thinking of my mortality much more seriously.

In doing that, I realized that I could not go on any longer in that kind of relationship. I told God, that if I was wrong for this decision, I was sorry, but I couldn't live out the rest of my life like that, when for all I knew, the rest of my life, may only be months or days? I thought about asking her to get counseling, but I realized that my own effects from this relationship's bad side, were so severe, that I would probably get headaches for the rest of my life, just from walking into the WalMart. But I also knew, that if I was NOT in the relationship, I wouldn't feel that way. I felt 10 years had been a sufficient investment, in giving her the time to mend her ways. And I thought of it like an abused dog. If someone abuses a dog for many years. Even when that dog is turned over to a loving family, when the new owners raised their hand to pet him, he would still flinch, in fear, just as an old reaction. My life felt that way. That even if she agreed to counseling, I would have to FLINCH for the rest of my life. And I didn't want to live the rest of my life that way. Especially after 9/11

So, we divorced and I remarried later, and time has gone by, and even though the demise of that relationship was not really my fault, I always feel guilty to hurt anyone. I assumed she probably just hated me, even now. But when I think of her from time to time, I always think in God's direction, and have wished for her, happiness, and to remain the fighter for God that she was.

Well, as I said...

She contacted me a few days ago.

When I answered her message, she was surprised and didn't think I would ever want to talk to her again. I told her that I felt bad about everything that had happened, but in my heart I always wished her well. Then I asked her if she remembered having the vision about the anti-christ, that she had seen in the past. She said "Yes, but I didn't think you believed me." - I corrected her, and said, "You forgot that I wrote it word for word in the computer?" and then she said "Oh, that's right!" And then she said, "Well you remember that it was Russia's Putin I had seen!"

WOW!!!

How had I forgotten that?

Then I remembered that after she had this vision, maybe a year or two later, we were watching the News, and a new President had been elected in Russia... Vladimir Putin!!! And when she saw him, she nearly choked on her food and shouted out "That's him!! That's him Craig!!! That's the man I saw in the vision... the antichrist!!!!"


Now, when she had seen the vision originally, no one here really knew who Putin was. I had never seen him before, and neither had she!

SO FAST FORWARD:

I told her in my message back: "I forgot that it was Putin you had seen!"

And she responded: "Well I didn't, and I have been keeping an eye on him over the years, ever since. Even though he is not President anymore, he is still the power in Russia!"

I remembered that part of her vision, about this man being homosexual and keeping it from the world, and then I thought... "Wow, this guy Putin has been running around recently letting the Russian media take pics and videos of him without a shirt on, riding on horseback, etc... Like he is proud of his physique, showing off, etc.. Not exactly world leader behavior, you know?"

And my ex-wife wrote:

"You know he's not married don't you?"

Nope. I didn't really know that. I didn't think about his personal life, cause I had forgotten, he was the one she saw in her vision.

She said to me:

"The dollar is going to suffer soon, and go down in value, and the power is going to the East, and the world is about to change in a bad way! It is the time Craig. It is the time!"

She also said:

"You have so much talent Craig... In the brain, and in music. You are God's gift to the world... you need to hurry! The time is running out!"

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you are right about the time being very close, you are right about all the people in the current administration, you will understand why I giggle to myself when I say its a 1 term thing regardless of what happens in November of 2012

Yes, you are right about the single administration.

I'm not the ego maniac you make me out to be,

I was mistaken. You are not an egomaniac. You are on a higher spiritual plane than those around you, so you haven't had many peers to challenge you, to help you stay on track and help push you further. Consequently, you are a leader, and excited and brimming with enthusiasm. You are also tapped into good and well-meaning spiritual forces surrounding you, and they are giving you insights into many things. This combination multiplies the excitement and is a confirmation that you are on the right track, but because you are the leader of many in your circle, and you have not had many peers and particularly, have not had a more advanced soul to mentor you when needed, you have been on your own in many ways, and while you feel a tremendous sense of responsibility to those who look up to you, because there is not someone tangible to help keep you in check, you drift a little. You entertain ideas that seem right, but may be a little off, or on other occassions you take things to a conclusion that seems obvious, when it wasn't meant to go that far. We all need a sounding board, and we all need someone worthy of guiding us and keeping us in check.

But you are not an egomaniac. I am understanding you better, and you are understanding me better. While you are far away in miles, there is no such barrier in spirit. As you know, we are surrounded by spiritual forces, but we also have a spiritual "environment" (for lack of a better term) that is unique to each of us. I would liken it physically, to driving in a car on a hot summer's day down the highway, and while it is scortchingly hot outside the car windows, inside the car, it is whatever temperature the air has been set at. It is cooler. And it goes where you go, because you are surrounded by the air, and it is confined to the car. And similarly, all the other vehicles on the road no matter which direction they are traveling in, have their windows up, and their own atmosphere they are traveling with. Little bubbles of cool air, everyone is surrounded by, going wherever they are going. Our spiritual world is like that. The spirits of God that he places around us, as well as individuals we have had strong relationships with on Earth, usually family members, but sometimes friends or spirits that are aiding us because of our missions or purposes, all these, while unique and individual in one sense, also form a unified cohesive WHOLE, which collectively, is our spiritual world, or our spiritual atmosphere. They are like the cool air surrounding us in the car, and going where we go. They are there to support us, and to protect us, and when necessary to inform and guide us.

We have reached a level of communication that has caused them to communicate independently of the physical you and me. And now that they are more familiar, they are making us more familiar. As a result, I understand you better, and you me. This is likely to increase, because our paths have crossed for a reason, and I perceive it is not merely for a few days or weeks or even months. I can't know how long right now, but we have some things to give one another, and it will last longer than only a few months. It will take more time than that.

God is a MASTER of time. And He rarely sends someone to help another, without the receiver of that help, not having something that the giver needs as well. In other words, one person has a need, but so does the other, and rather than waste precious time, he will connect the two people that can answer ONE ANOTHER'S needs, so that two problems (or more) are being solved simultaneously. I have experienced this so many times throughout my life, that now, when I help someone, I actually LOOK with heart wide open, to see what it is I should be learning or receivng from them as well.

You cant convince me that I need to go further because I know what I have seen with my own two eyes, heard with my own two ears...and have shared with many.

We ALL need to go further. It is the growth process. You will continue to grow, or should, as long as you remain in the physical world. When you shed your physical shell, the parts of you that were of God, will return to God. You will rejoin the source, never to be separated. As the Bible says "NOTHING can separate us from the love of God" this is because GOD IS LOVE, and whatever was of God's love in us, will no longer have ANY separation from the source of that love. There is no separation now, technically, because there is no separation from the source, but in a body, you have a physical nature as well, which IS ALLOWED independence, so that the parts of you that are godly, are ALWAYS relating to God and connected to love, but because you are human still, you have the ability to allow other things into your being, things that are NOT connected to God's love.

God doesn't relate to these parts. Which is why and how, the Bible says, quite correctly, that there is no sin in the presence of God. It is also why the Bible teaches that we must empty ourselves of SELF. The more empty the cup, the more the cup can be filled with God's love... with God Himself. For that matter, it is also how the "church" can be the "body of Christ". A body is a single entity, it is inseperable. Spiritual filled believers, are filled with God. And God is one being, even when seemingly separated among millions of believers. It is the SAME GOD in each of us, and that God is one, and consequently WE ARE ONE. One body. The church. Not a building. A living breathing organism, all filled with the degree or the amount of God's love that we allow there to be, by emptying the selfishness of self, and allowing in, the unselfish love of God.

Perhaps I am mistaken about you.

You were. And so was I.

If you feel that you have a message to get out as passionately as you explain, then its my job to tell you that sign you have been waiting for is here. Speak up and get the process started. If you are who you think you are, it will spread like the wildfires in california! Get to it now...

Good advice. Thank you.

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Craig, I was impulsive in my choice of words about going further, you are right, we all need to push on. For me lately, my need has been made more and more urgent. I have a specific mission, you have a specific mission. The vision of St. John showed the end of days in a 1st century vision of 1st century things, but that is because to see otherwise would not have been understood by the 1st century man. 12 churches of 12000 shall be spared the day of reckoning, 2 prophets shall stand and die before the anti-christ, but the universe is not through with them at that time, so life is restored upon them to finish thier mission. The 144000 must be safe. The end of the days of the WORD of god are upon us and the days of Enlightenment come.

For those in the know, it will be a great transformation. For those who don't believe, just watch the progression over the next 4 years, but when one repents only in fear for their life, their repentence is muted by the scream from their heart.

Well,

Checked on Putin's marital status. If he is gay, he ain't all gay. LOL

Seems he got a divorce sometime in 2008 and has kept it secretive. The Moscow tabloids reported he got the divorce with plans to marry a 24 year old gymnast.

THIS IS HER:







Here is a quote from a news article in the UK:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560278/So-Mr-Putin-nubile-24-year-old-rhythmic-gymnast.html

Mr Putin today appeared to relish being linked to a beautiful gymnast less than half his age as he gave a press conference alongside Italian leader Silvio Berlusconi - himself no stranger to allegations of womanising.
Denying the claims of a divorce and marriage plans, 55-year-old Mr Putin seemed to enjoy playing up the image of a ladies' man.
"In other publications of the same type, the names of other successful, beautiful young women from Russia are mentioned," he said. "I think it won't be unexpected if I say that I like them all - just as I like all Russian women."


He called women of his homeland "the most talented and beautiful" in the world - adding diplomatically: "If anyone can compete, it may be only Italian women."


Despite his denials, some commentators wondered whether the rumoured link with the gymnast might explain why Mr Putin suddenly posed topless for the cameras on a Siberian fishing holiday last summer.
While his muscled and hairless torso were a particular hit among female and gay voters, perhaps he was simply trying to impress his new mistress.


There is added piquancy in the fact that, despite her youth, Miss Kabaeva has recently been made an MP.
The gymnast is one of a number of young and beautiful Russian dancers and athletes who, under Mr Putin's patronage, have lately become deputies in the Duma - Russia's lower parliament.






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as is the case with light energies, we have no gender out of this life, therefore we know not homosexuality. Again, I argue that it is not an abomination as man has made it out to be, it is true, life and procreation are essential, however, when an energy comes into flesh, it comes in however it chooses, and some argue that homosexuality is a choice, well sort of...it is a choice made before we are born. It is not a sin. The choice was made by that energy not to come into this life and procreate.

Putin, a dark energy, originates from the dark that balances with the light, and they also know no sexual boundries. John Lennon, a great light energy and messanger of peace, didn't believe much in god, but had a sense of spirituality brought on by ingesting some of the sacred markers. When one ingests the sacred marker, one is tethered to the origin. When that tether is created, the elders (the ones you feel and call the holy spirit) are able to connect with you even if you dont recognize them for what they are. Many mistake this as the hand of god, the holy spirit, because it is overwhelming.

Craig, I would have to say what you experienced was standing before the council of elders, in the presence so to speak. I believe they are quite pleased you and I are connecting.

I mistakingly led you to believe that now that I am sure I have found the truth I don't continue my study of it all, and that is not the case. I learn something new every day. One of my students has recently learned how to harness her healing ability and cured a lower back pain from an old injury for a young woman who had not seen a pain free day in 12 years. She finally learned how to process the healing without taking the pain on herself. She had previously cured a knee injury and limped for weeks, poor girl. So yes, each of us who has stood in that presence learns more every day, and each of us has a specific talent and mission we came into this life with. I have, for 2 years now, been connecting with more and more of those kind of people, and now you.

Trust in the seed bearing herb of genesis, and you will take your experience to the level you need to find the courage to face what you will face. Contact me, my email is on my blog.

as is the case with light energies, we have no gender out of this life, therefore we know not homosexuality. Again, I argue that it is not an abomination as man has made it out to be, it is true, life and procreation are essential, however, when an energy comes into flesh, it comes in however it chooses, and some argue that homosexuality is a choice, well sort of...it is a choice made before we are born. It is not a sin.

Don't misunderstand me on this. Whether he is homosexual (really bisexual) is not of concern to me, other than the fact that my ex-wife had a vision of this man, BEFORE we knew he was. And to see some indication of his orientation, would also be an indication that her vision was real and on target. What I had checked on at first, was to see whether he was married or not, cause she had claimed that he was NOT. It appeared that HE WAS in fact married still, and that would have lead me to believe that she was wrong, or had not invesitgated enough, and was just ASSUMING he was not married, since he is famous for not appearing in public with his wife very often. But then I found MANY sources, and from legitimate news agencies, that well-founded rumors were circulating that he was in fact DIVORCED, and had plans to marry this young gymnast. As far as I have seen, he is NOT YET remarried though. Which is interesting.

Being homosexual or not, was not listed here as some indication of his morality, or lack thereof.

I have shared my views here before, that the civil rights of homosexuals are being discriminated against, by not being extended the full legal rights of marriage that heterosexual couples receive.

We agree and disagree on this subject, but probably agree more.

Recent medical findings have lead me to conclude conclusively, that YES, people can be and ARE born homosexual. FROM BIRTH. This is an important disctinction, which takes away the judgement, that it is MERELY a lifestyle that is CHOSEN, rather than one someone is born predisposed toward. It also takes away the claim of some religious corners, that there is a "spirit of homosexuality" and that it is EVIL, and they need some kind of exorcism and they will be HEALED.

Because their propensity toward homosexual behavior is COMPLETELY physical, it CANNOT be a spiritual influence in origin, but ONLY a physically based disposition toward it.

So for all out there seeing this as a MORAL issue based on spirituality, or bad spiritual influences, forget it. That is NOT what is going on here.

The scientific findings I was speaking of, have conluded that this is an anomaly of the brain. Homosexual men, have brain patterns that are DISTINCTLY female. In other words, a homosexual male's brain, more resembles a female's brain than a typical male's. And similarly, they have discovered that a lesbian's brain patterns, more resemble that of a male's brain, than a typical female's. To take this further, when people say that, since childhood, their earliest memories, are of feeling TRAPPED in the wrong body, that they FELT female, but were in a male's body, then this is easily understood, as to the causality of it. Their brain is telling them THEY ARE of the opposite sex, that they IDENTIFY with the other sex, rather than the one their sexual organs would indicate.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT:

This does not necessarily mean it is God's doing, or God's ideal that this should be so. Not meaning to be offensive, but saying the following, only as a scientific exercise: People are also BORN with psychopathies, or born with any number of mental disorders. Did God design us to have mental disorders? In other words, while this is CLEARLY a natural phenomenon occuring, it does not mean it was the IDEAL. It could very well be an "accident" of nature. Like being born as a siamese twin, or being born with 6 toes, rather than 5. The blueprint could simply have been altered, through some natural process that we don't fully understand yet. Some people were born with one leg. If given a preference they would not have chosen to be born with one leg.

So whether it is a sin or not, is for God to decide, but when someone's brain has designed their thoughts to be like a woman's, and it is a natural phenomenon, then it may very well not be a sin. We are held accountable for what is under our control. Not what is outside of it. And just because their BODY is male, but their BRAIN is female. Which part would they be betraying in God's eyes? You know what I mean? If they force themselves to follow the design of their BODY but in doing so, they deny the design of their BRAIN. Which one was the sin? A religious person, not considering the physiology of the matter, would have them DENY their brain, and follow the make-up of their sexual organs. I am not convinced that placing someone's sexual organs OVER the make-up of their brain, is correct, or even godly? What makes us who we are more? Is a penis or a vagina really more related to our sense of self, than our brains are? Maybe for some, but for me, what I "THINK" and "FEEL" is more of who I am, than the design of my sexual organ.

One thing I KNOW of a certainty, is that God is FAR MORE CONCERNED that we are loving people, than which sex we are drawn to.

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