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#80066 by CraigMaxim
Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:57 am
Swine flu could infect half of U.S., panel estimates

August 25, 2009 By ROB STEIN
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON
- Swine flu could infect half the U.S. population this fall and winter, hospitalizing up to 1.8 million people and causing as many as 90,000 deaths - more than double the number that occur in an average flu season, according to an estimate from a presidential panel.

The virus could cause symptoms in 60 million to 120 million people, more than half of whom might seek medical attention, the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology estimated. The numbers were given in an 86-page report to the White House assessing the government's response to the first influenza pandemic in 41 years.

Although most cases probably would be mild, up to 300,000 people could require intensive care, which could tie up ICU beds in some parts of the country at the peak of the outbreak, the council said.

"This is going to be fairly serious," said Harold Varmus of New York's Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, who co-chairs the 21-member council. "It's going to stress every aspect of our health system."

The estimates, released Monday, were the first specific numbers by experts on the possible impact of the pandemic in the United States. The "plausible scenario" is based on previous pandemics, especially the 1957-58 Asian flu, and how the swine flu behaved in the United States this spring and during the Southern Hemisphere's winter over the past few months, said Mark Lipsitch of the Harvard School of Public Health. He helped prepare the estimate.

"They are not a prediction, but they are a possibility," he said, noting the estimates are based on assumptions, including that the virus will not mutate into a more dangerous form or infect more older people.

"If it turned out to affect a lot more adults, the severity would be a lot worse," Lipsitch said.

While the seasonal flu causes about 36,000 deaths and 200,000 hospitalizations each year, the lack of immunity to the swine flu virus probably will lead to many more people becoming infected and possibly dying - as many as 90,000, the council said. And while most deaths during a typical flu season are among the elderly, swine flu is more likely to kill children and young adults, the panel said.

The report's primary purpose is to help guide planning to protect the public and improve the government's response to the outbreak. For example, it was estimated the outbreak could peak in mid-October, so the panel urged expediting the availability of a vaccine.

The panel also recommended clarifying how antiviral drugs should be used to fight the pandemic, speeding a decision about whether to approve intravenous antivirals in case they are needed, and improving the system for tracking the spread of the new virus.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:43 am
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#80072 by ratsass
Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:01 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:And while most deaths during a typical flu season are among the elderly, swine flu is more likely to kill children and young adults, the panel said.


FINALLY! A reason to be happy about being middle aged. :)

#80163 by Hayden King
Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:52 pm
The Swine Flu has DNA from swine/avian/human flu strain's... not gonna happen naturally!
Swine Flu is "much" less dangerous and contagious than the common flu!
Donald Rumsfeld (major shareholder in pharma co producing vaccine) is at it again trying to sell a useless vaccine through the government; he did this the first time as well and the vaccine killed more people than the actual flu did!
you won't catch me taking any vaccine!!!

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#80164 by Whitesel
Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:02 pm
Yeah.... they hyped up the 76 birdflu to scare everyone into taking an untested vaccine and Rummsfeild made a fortune...he takes great pride in controlling the media and govt at the expense of other's lives to make him and his little cronies fortunes... I wonder how long it will be until they force us all to get a vaccine using their typical fear monger tactics to quickly change laws without question, nothing surprises me anymore. After 40 years of being on this Earth I have found..nothing is truely what it seems to be.

#80168 by gbheil
Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:37 pm
They want to sell us two seprate vaccines.
They will require them by law for our children to go to public school.
Obama is in bed with the big pharmacutical corps.
Same old sh*t. Different Day.

#80172 by philbymon
Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:44 pm
Every time my grandson coughs or sneezes I yell "SWINE FLU!!!!"

HE laughs, but sometimes I get these funny looks, like when I say stuff like "C'mere, ya lil bastid." Some ppl just "don't know what love is," to quote Randy Newman.

I guess I'm gonna hafta quit doing that...

:mrgreen: :roll: :shock: 8) :wink: :? :P :) :o :D :lol: :P :twisted:

#80176 by gbheil
Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:58 pm
Why? If it works for your relationship, screw what everyone else thinks.

#80191 by CraigMaxim
Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:37 pm
Hayden,

I suspect the same. That is not natural. But I imagine you are thinking it is government produced, whereas an act of terrorism seems more plausible to me.

I could imagine some terrorists laughing their asses off, as they mixed human strains of the Flu with "Bird Flu" (American Eagle?) and Swine Flu (Insult to Jews?) as a f*ck you to the American - Israeli relationship.

And it is not likely to be hype. If it is possible that twice as many deaths will occur than with a normal Flu, then it would appear to be more dangerous potentially.

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#80193 by Hayden King
Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:41 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:Hayden,

I suspect the same. That is not natural. But I imagine you are thinking it is government produced, whereas an act of terrorism seems more plausible to me.

I could imagine some terrorists laughing their asses off, as they mixed human strains of the Flu with "Bird Flu" (American Eagle?) and Swine Flu (Insult to Jews?) as a f*ck you to the American - Israeli relationship.

And it is not likely to be hype. If it is possible that twice as many deaths will occur than with a normal Flu, then it would appear to be more dangerous potentially.

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our government are the terrorist!

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#80195 by CraigMaxim
Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:48 pm
Hayden King wrote:


our government are the terrorist!




Yeah, not for this though.

Some elements of the government are capable of some nasty sh*t, but unleashing a potential pandemic? I don't think so. They have families and kids too. No one can control where it goes, and how it is contracted. No one could be sure whether it became resistant to whatever drugs they tried to use. Biological stuff that is contageous, is not like dropping napalm on a single geographical spot and having that be the end of it.

Just not plausible.

If another government was doing it to US, that is plausible. We are geographically isolated from much of the world. They could deny entry from our country to theirs to seal the threat off somewhat. But who would take that risk? Only nutty terrorists that think Allah will somehow protect them from the same illness.

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#80212 by fisherman bob
Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:53 am
sanshouheil wrote:They want to sell us two seprate vaccines.
They will require them by law for our children to go to public school.
Obama is in bed with the big pharmacutical corps.
Same old sh*t. Different Day.

Hope Things Change...

#80214 by philbymon
Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:06 am
My goodness this stuff cracks me up!

C'mon! There are dangerous pandemics every 100 yrs or so that kill millions. It's NATURE's way. Be thankful if you live through it, but don't look to your gov't to either save you or infect you...it's god, if you will, what does it. I can't keep playing the blame game all the time anymore.

We've been due for a mass reduction in our world's population for awhile. I only hope we all live through it with no hugely ill effects.

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