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TED KENNEDY IS DEAD!

WHOO HOO

TED KENNEDY IS DEAD!

WHOO HOO

You're mean

Ryan,

Is that the response you want from the left, when John McCain dies? When Robert Dole dies? When Nancy Reagan dies?

Yes, I know about Chappaquiddick.

It's still in poor taste.

No, just ignorant.

Over forty-five years of service to your country, regardless of your political orientation, automatically makes you a hero.

Yes he had problems with drinking and when he was a young man it cost a young woman her life. But who among us does not have things from their past they would prefer forgotten?

Ryan,

This deserves another comment.

A little piece of advice from an old guy who knows something:

One of the best things you can possibly do, when offended by another's lack of character, is not to emulate it. When you don't show a better example, than the people you find fault in, then the fault is also in you. We then become what we despise.

Is this what you intend for yourself?

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Ryan,

This deserves another comment.

A little piece of advice from an old guy who knows something:

One of the best things you can possibly do, when offended by another's lack of character, is not to emulate it. When you don't show a better example, than the people you find fault in, then the fault is also in you. We then become what we despise.

Is this what you intend for yourself?

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Yeah, what Craig and everyone else said.

I'm with Craig on this one...well said dude! You ain't that old either...now me, I'm old!

Ryan, like the old man used to tell me, somewhat frequently as I recall...you just missed a perfect opportunity to shut-up!

That was pretty tacky, and better off left alone.

I am mean and ignorant too. Another tyrant down!
Burn Ted Burn.

This for a man who did what he thought was best for his country for over 4 decades? A sad epitaph that says much more about those who write it, making it even sadder. You may not have agreed with him on a single thing, but surely you don't think he was an actively purposely evil force in this country, do you? I believe that Mr Kennedy tried his best, not only for his constituents, but for us all, for better or worse, to the absolute best of his abilities. He had the balls to refuse to follow in his brothers' footsteps without being wimpy about it, too. He stood up to his opponents with wit, capability, & knowledge, with the beliefs that what he was doing was the right thing, day after day after day, in spite of personal attacks that would make many of us run like a frightened rabbit. I have a lot of respect for the man, in spite of the fact that I rarely agreed with him. He had class, guts, wit & charm, as well as a drive to do what he thought best for our society. No, he was no saint, but to cheer when he dies is far far less than he deserves.

How many of us can say we've done those things, ourselves? I know I can't.

I actually had his Chappaquidick episode in a song I wrote called "The Confidence Of Kings." The line went - "They say it was an accident when the car went off the bridge - But I know better." There was also a line about his brother - "When the president went down they said just one man shot him down - But I know better."

I'd still be playing that old thing, cuz it was a pretty good tune, but it's so dated I'd hafta completely rewrite it.

Ah well. Bye, Teddy. See ya next time around...

Bullshit! Lying cheating filthy bastard did only for himself.
He bears a great resposibility for all that is wrong with America today and the proliferation of evil the world over. Starting with abortion and work your way through the alphabet.
I have hated him (yes I know its wrong but it is how I feel) for more than 20 years.
He did not diserve to die of cancer, but hanged for treason.
I spit on the graves of his fathers.

The man's deceased George.

His most grievous sin was Chappaquiddick. He deserved jail time, if not a prison sentence for that episode. He got off because of his family's money and connections. Sadly, this is a tiresome story ANYWHERE someone holds power, and also, an all too common one, that the elite are not treated equally under the law.

But it ruined any chance he would ever have of becoming President. And while his life has been charmed, it has also been grievous. That family, began from organized crime money, Joe was a bootlegger during prohibition, and Joe Kennedy's organized crime connections continued well after. He used them to help get his son John elected to the Senate.

You don't have to judge that family George, because God already has. The eldest son blown up in a plane. John fills the role of eldest son then, and becomes president eventually. He is assasinated. His brother Robert seeks to fill that eldest son spot. He is assasinated. JFK's son then later dies in a plane accident. Not only has Teddy Kennedy had to live with losing all his brothers, and his brother's son, an heir apparent to the throne, but he is marked for life because of Chappaquiddick, and dies an unpleasant death from brain cancer himself, BEFORE he gets to vote for Health Care, and BEFORE he gets to have his seat filled with another Democrat of his choosing.

Now for the good...

Teddy Kennedy has some grievous sins in his life. Most powerful men do. But he has been a respected statesman for 40 years or something. He has fought for his liberal principles (sure, you and I disagree with most of those principles, but thank God in America we have both to keep each other in check) and he was respected on BOTH sides of the aisle. Like Robert Dole, he was not afraid to compromise and work with the other side to get things done that BOTH could live with.

One thing you will hear often in these next days, even from Republicans, is that HIS WORD WAS ALWAYS GOOD. Republicans TRUSTED him to keep his word to them, and he always did. Because Republicans TRUSTED him, they would OFTEN seek his help, and get it, on issues that were important to conservatives. He cooperated when he could. He compromised when necessary. He kept his word to the other members of the Senate, conservatives included.

His signature is on some of the most important legislation this country has passed, like the Civil Rights Act and MANY others. He will go down in history as one of America's great statesmen. He is to be buried in Arlington National Cemetary, a high priveledge, and one he deserved for his decades of statesmanship in the Senate.

Try and remember this, knowing what we now know about Nixon, his racism and antisemitism and his illegal use of government power to threaten journalists he didn't like, and hell, just go on down the list. All the bad we know about Nixon... how many times have you heard a conservative praise him (and maybe you have as well?) for his accomplishments, like opening diplomatic relations with China, and so on?

Those on the left, were pretty respectful, when Nixon died.

Ted Kennedy deserves the same.

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His most grevious sin was treason to the American Constitution he swore repeatedly to uphold. The blood of millions of innocent fetus are upon his hands in the name of reproductive irrisponability.
I retain the right to hold him in absolute contempt even in death, as the communist pig he was. I would no more honnor him in death than I would Hitler or Stalin.
I am not proud of the way I feel when I have hate in my heart for those whom would destroy America for their own benefit irriguardless of their "party" affiliation.
But that is the way I feel.
I may, God willing find it my heart to forgive him as a fallable man, same as I. But I will never forget the damage he has done to my Country.
Never.

The Supreme Court, and not Ted Kennedy defined the abortion issue.

And abortion is a very complex issue.

Personally I find fault on BOTH sides of that issue.

Well put Craig, And everyone else. We should be carefull at how we look at things. Great ,not great, history is being rewritten every day and not allways to make the truth clear,only time will tell. It is very easy to tell the the story a diferrent way.

In fact did he help with some moral legislation, yes. The civilrights amendments,yes. I find that pretty sad in itself that this country had to have laws passed.

As for the outrage fom some of the writers, it comes from the underlying principles that senator Kennedy followed,,,,Transfer the wealth from those that have to those that don't AND stay in office so that I can protect mine.

He was no heroe,,, He killed a young woman,,,Period.How could the American people allow him to serve out a life term on the senate, not in jail?

We The People DON'T need life time senators like this or Strom Thurmond ever again. To much power for WAY to long. 2 terms ,12 years and turn it over to the next generation. I have faith in these kids.

Seems right now ,only history will decide all of this,In the mean time may he rest in peace and may God protect his soul.
That would be the decent thing to say no matter what.

Well put Craig, And everyone else.

Thank you.

He was no heroe,,, He killed a young woman,,,Period.How could the American people allow him to serve out a life term on the senate, not in jail?

We're talking about Massachusettes here.

Seems right now ,only history will decide all of this,In the mean time may he rest in peace and may God protect his soul.
That would be the decent thing to say no matter what.

Amen to that brother!

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