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#78826 by Chippy
Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:13 pm
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm
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#78828 by CraigMaxim
Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:40 pm
Chippy,

"God Speed" is not the same as "God's Speed". It has nothing to do with speed really. It is a Middle English term meaning "May God help you prosper"

And that is a blessing I certainly appreciate!

Thank you Sans! :-)

And thanks to your wife, cause God knows I need some encouragement today. My copyrighted music has been removed TWICE now, from my old band's new page, and once from the little home studio we recorded at. Now the studio dude has uploaded them again, using a third-party player. which UPSETTINGLY allows for FREE DOWNLOADS as well. I have an attorney in Florida who is going to help me with this.

The "engineer" of the home studio, now claims that I do not own the copyrights to MY OWN MUSIC since he says he was never paid for the studio time.

This is ludicrous because his recording of a song, has NOTHING to do with OWNERSHIP of the song. He has every right to WITHHOLD the MASTERS until payment is made, but this DOES NOT give him copyright to the songs themselves. And he still needs my permission to copy, distribute or sell MY MUSIC!

So, it's neverending.

They are possessed or something.

They f*cked up royally with their little plot, and obviously they can't write songs worth a sh*t or they wouldn't keep trying to steal MINE! And they are just pissed because they f*cked over the best thing musically, that had ever happened to them.

So Sans, thanks to you and your wife both, cause I needed a pick me up today!

#78829 by CraigMaxim
Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:49 pm
Chippy,

Why apply a different standard to the subject of the divine, than to any other topic? It's just a conversation. People share their ideas. And there are MANY different ideas. Personally, I like it when people discuss their religion or anything else with me. I learn alot from it. Sometimes it revises my beliefs, and other times it doesn't. But it is MY choice what I believe, and YOUR choice what you believe. But the more information, the more informed the decision becomes. That can't be a bad thing right?
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#78831 by HowlinJ
Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:10 am
Craig,
Not only have I become an admirer of your music abilities over the last several months, but I've come to like the way you think as well. :wink:
John

#78835 by CraigMaxim
Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:21 am
HowlinJ wrote:Craig,
Not only have I become an admirer of your music abilities over the last several months, but I've come to like the way you think as well. :wink:
John



Thank you John. I think that means more to me than appreciation of my music. Thank you brother! :-)

#78858 by Chippy
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:20 am
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#78871 by CraigMaxim
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:41 pm
Chippy wrote:
I'd rather God be involved with making water appear for people where there is none, Warmth enough when it is really cold for someone, the signed cross upon ones chest at some ones side when they are ill, not before taking a kick in a football game.


Well, I certainly understand your position. And I think you make a good point. Prayer for the welfare of others, is certainly more serious than praying for the outcome of a football game. I'm not even sure that it is reasonable to pray for one side or another to win a GAME. But to be fair, if someone believes God should be a central part of their lives, then it is not wrong to have the heart to include God in EVERY aspect of one's life... even games. Perhaps a better prayer is "God, help me to do my best in this competition today, and to show good character in all my actions on the field. And please protect both teams in health and safety."


Chippy wrote:Just like PolitRockets I try to steer clear of Religion too.


Me too! :-D

Chippy wrote:I only have to open a paper to see man killing man in the name of some prophet or God.


Oops... lost me on this one. I was kind of with you on the first two!

But this last one will never be a reasonable argument intellectually, as it's purpose is biased and is not about facts or logic. The proof of this, is that no one applies this "standard" to any other subject, only God or religion.

For example...

Jilted lovers kill their former partners all the time. Is anyone saying that this is the fault of "love"? Or do they place blame on the INDIVIDUAL for his actions? The individual of course.

Parents get ejected and even arrested, for their unsportsmanlike and even criminal conduct at their child's soccer games. Is this the fault of soccer, or is the INDIVIDUAL responsible for his own actions?

Suicides increase dramatically around Christmas time. Is this the fault of a Holiday? Should Christmas be illegal? Or this an issue related to whatever an individual is dealing with themselves?

And...

Not that you made this point, but MANY do... Blaming God for everything bad that happens in life. I see this all the time. In fact, I commented someone's status message on my MySpace friend's list the other day, because some guy left a status update that said:

"My friend has a brain tumor. He is a good person. What kind of God would allow this? There is no God!"

I commented this message with...

"No offense intended, but can I ask... How are you sure this was God's doing? How are you sure God is personally responsible for this? Imagine if you had a close friend, and you decided that it must have been this friend who was responsible for doing something that hurt you. So you turned your back on this friend and never spoke with them again. Decades passed, and then you discover that it actually WAS NOT your friend who was responsible for the infraction, and it turned out that you blamed someone who was actually innocent, and lost decades of relationship with that person as a result. Wouldn't that be tragic? When you are going to end a relationship over something, it is pretty important to be really, really sure, you are placing blame in the right place. Just something to think about."


And Chippy, not that this is your heart, but...


It's been my experience, that people are far more quick to BLAME God when things don't seem to be going the way they believe they should. And far less quick to THANK God for when things do seem to be going the way they want them to. Not only that, but interestingly, VERY OFTEN the same people who BLAME GOD for the bad things in their own lives, then thank THEMSELVES and praise THEMSELVES when they realize good things in their lives. In other words... If some success comes to my life, then I AM RESPONSIBLE, but if some failure comes to my life, then GOD IS RESPONSIBLE!

Somehow, for many people, God seems to be nothing more than some kind of "bad luck charm" who is available merely to be blamed for anything unfortunate that occurs.

In an EXTREMELY limited way, I can personally understand how it feels to give so much to someone, out of love and compassion, and with the best of motives, only to have that same person turn on me and then blame me for his own actions.

The bad apple in my former band is a prime example. This guy in essence stole the band I formed, and the name of the band that I had created. He actually tried to claim, that trademarking the band name in his own personal name alone, and doing so behind my back, was somehow in the best interest of the entire band!

He had forgotten...

I hired this guy moments after his first audition. I know this shocked him at the time, because he didn't play very well at that audition. But I saw enough to know that he was competent, and I knew he was playing on music (my originals) that he didn't know, and after learning the songs would be much better. What I saw, was that he enjoyed the songs very much, and was getting into the music. OK, so, he didn't play amazingly. He felt the music... the rest would come. I hired him. He was so excited. His MySpace page had claimed that he was not able to get out of the "garage" in over 8 years time.

Not only did he get out of the garage with me, but I took this band from the practice room, to playing gigs in 3 states, a finished demo from the studio, that eventually was played on 5 different radio stations, two of which we were interviewed on, as well as them playing the demos on air. Imagine... he had not been able to get onstage with a band in 8 years time, and in the first 6 months with me, he was sitting in a radio station being interviewed live, on air, to many thousands of people.

He also forgot...

When I found out that his forte was Southern Rock, and that was what he played best, I made that our primary genre. Yes, I actually centered our entire genre around Southern Rock to minimize his weaknesses and help him shine better.

Later I found out that his son was residing in Illinois, whereas we were in Gerogia. The boy's mom had died, and he was being raised by some close friends of hers. The father, my guitarist, had decided that they could provide for his son better, financially, than he could, so he let them raise his son, and he visited him every few years. I found out that he had not seen his son in 4 years or something, and I told him he should go visit his son. He said that he would love to see his son, but his car would never make that trip. I told him I would drive him up there. He said "To Illinois? You're gonna drive me all the way to Illinois and back, just so I can see my son?" - I said... "Sure I will." - And he teared up a little, and said that none of his "so-called" friends, that he had known for many years, had ever offered such a thing, and here I was, he said, even though we had known each other for only a matter of months, offering to drive him from Georgia to Illinois and back, to see his son. He said he was very moved by the gesture.

Well, there are dozens of examples of my generosity toward this guy, and yet HE IS THE ONE, that stole everything I worked 8 hours a day for.

And he blames.... ME!!!

I wonder just how often God does the same thing. Gives and gives and gives again, only to have the objects of His love, turn their hearts against Him and then blame Him for their separation?

I know how painful it is to endure this, even once. He effectively endures it millions and millions of times over, and continues to love, in spite of it.

Wow!

To have a heart like that...

Wow!

#78908 by Chippy
Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:50 pm
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#78923 by gbheil
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:14 pm
God in the Holy Spirit is in every moment of my life, when I do well and when I do evil.
It would be easier for me to not breath than to ignore God in my life.
Am I forcing anyone to breath? Do I shove breath down anyone's throat?
(except when I am running a Code)
No Sir.

See the tag line below.

#78927 by Chippy
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:29 pm
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#78929 by gbheil
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:38 pm
I saw you apology Chippy and ignored it.
I was not and am not offended, therefore I felt you have no need to apologise.
Believe me when I say that you are not alone in your feelings towards religion, as anything organised by man will fail.
Way too many "religious people" are simply users and usurpers of the the truth that is the Gospel. And as a sinner it is expressly difficult for me to not be the same.

In short.
We're cool. :wink:

#78932 by Chippy
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:44 pm
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#78934 by gbheil
Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:47 pm
LOL I could list a few time when BOOBS made me stupid. :oops:

#78937 by CraigMaxim
Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:14 pm
Boobs?

Now you're speaking Crip's religion! LOL

See? All religions can't be bad! ha ha


But Chippy,

Just as Sans said. Humans are always humans. They make humanly mistakes. And there are MANY wolves in sheep's clothing. Jesus said to be harmless as doves but wise as serpents. If the process of finding truth were easy, it wouldn't be worth much. We value most, what we invest in most. When there is little investment, there is little value in it to us. Truth has been a lifelong pursuit for me. Uncovering it has cost me a great deal throughout my life, but is a paltry sum, in what it has gained for me in my soul. But it wasn't easy. And it is a neverending pursuit.

It's YOUR own search for truth, not theirs!

Think of it like college recruiters. You know you want that education, and there are no shortage of recruiters willing to take your money. Some of these colleges are scams, and others are going to provide you with a good education. It is YOUR task to listen to the recruiters and then do your own research to decide who is sincerely offering what you are looking for.

A good heart leads one to trust without question. But this is also naive and dangerous. God, as revealed through the Bible, and in my own personal experience, has no problem with us questioning everything, even Him. He gave us a brain to think with. Why would He NOT want us to use it?

Be harmless as a dove.

Be wise as a serpent.

The charlatans do far more harm to themselves in the end, then they cause for others. The concept of The Golden Rule, is found in all the world's greatest religions for a reason. Karma is real.

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