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#77772 by Kramerguy
Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:08 pm
Someone on a blog posted this rant, and I just felt inspired to share it, it mirrors my feelings, beliefs, dis-beliefs, etc.. have a read, feel free to debate any points made in it-

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I'd respect Obama a lot more is he would just come out and tell us all the unvarnished, blunt truth----that as President, aside from his powers as Commander-in-Chief, he is quite powerless to get anything done of any substance in terms of healthcare, jobs, foreclosures, the economy, sending jobs overseas, immigration policy, education, etc.

And I'm not so sure he is really Commander-in-Chief. It seems as if the Commanders on the ground are calling the shots, not Obama.

Corporations run the nation. Money equals power. Those who have the most money to throw at Congressmen, Senators and Presidential candidates, get the legislation they need to enrich themselves to the tune of millions and billions.

Also, attacking another nation is the "war business". It generates revenue and profits, quarterly results, equity, assets, dividends, etc. So, in effect, Obama, and any President is the CEO of the War Corporation (especially since so much of war has now been outsourced to sub-contractors).

I think Obama CAN have a lot of power, but he chooses not too, for reasons that are hazy to figure out.

He's definitely not a George Washington who put his own life on the line over and over, and then as President, reluctantly served, only to help establish the nation.

He's definitely not a Abraham Lincoln, who led a simple life and endured many more hardships and personal sufferings than Obama ever has.

He's definitely not an FDR, nor an LBJ (excluding LBJ's Vietnam debacle).

We've been proposing single payer universal healthcare since Teddy Roosevelt. To see Obama elected on the basis that he was the most liberal Senator in the Senate and one who would likely push for a single payer plan (even though he never really admitted he would), and now to see him waffling about a "public option" is quite disheartening.

Afterall, if not now------when? Is not 50 million to 70 million with no heatlh insurance enough? Is not 22,000 deaths due to insurance denials or insurance obstacles to coverage, not enough deaths?

Premiums at $500 a month, and $1200 a month, and $1800 a month, and $2000 a month, not enough to take form ordinary folks salaries?

Is not 750,000 bankruptcies for medical bills a year not enough?

Is spending $3 trillion on the Iraq debacle not shocking enough?

Does it not perturb Obama that we are still spending $15 billion on destroying Iraq? And having young Americans die for basically no good reason?

I may be wrong but he seems to be turing his back on the very people that voted for him, and those 2 million who weeps and cried with joy at his inauguration.

Rather than a call to greatness with great visions of what American can be and should be and a determination on his part to make it so, he seems to be cozying up to the very crowd that wants him to fail, and to the Corporations that just want to continue to milk the system dry, at the expense of consumers, workers, taxpayers and the common man.

I dont know what a human life is worth, or what a perfect heatlh system should cost the nation, but I do know that spending $3 trillion on trying to fight a non-war in Iraq that was started on lies, deceit and deception on the part of pres Bush, is absurd, and a disgrace.

I do know that throwing $800 billion at Wall Street Banks to unfreeze the credit markets which to this day are still frozen, has turned out to be a sham. Those CEO's should be living in the backs of their cars, not in million dollar mansions, after destroying their companies.

If all the waste and killing and destruction and devastation and injuries and disabilities that $3 trillion bought us in Iraq, then a few trillion over ten years to have every man, woman, and child in America to have free healthcare for life (paid for with a fair and equitable general tax on all individuals and businesses) would seem like a freakin' bargain.

In one week we give almost a trillion to Wall Steet for "credit problems"; but we cant muster the will to spend a trillion over ten years to give 300 million people, full coverage health care.

I dont really give a sh*t anymore what single payer healthcare costs. Let's get it first, and then figure out how much it will cost. Thats how we launch and authorize and fight wars. We do it first. Then we just hide the final bill in a mishmash of off-budget expenditures paid for with borrowed money from China.

I'm getting nauseous again.

Every freakin' problem we have seems to have to have a solution that requires a 1000 page piece of legislation. Who the hell sits down and writes 1000 pages? Who are these people? Where is the writing done? Who dictates it? Who makes up the exact words? I'd love to see the real process of how 1000 pages comes together that is apparentl written by 100 Senators and 450 Congressmen and the Fortune 500 represented by about 35,000 lobbyists. Oh yes, and the many hundreds or even thousands of Congressional Staff writers. Who does all this writing, and typing, and editing, and sticking in their own pet phrases, and sentences, and words that result in tens of billions of dollars teetering on the edge of knife, falling one way or the other way.

Apparently, the simple "non-negotiation" clause that declared that the Federal Government couldnt negotiate drug prices for volume discounts for taxpayers in the Medicare system, was passed by those Republican scoundrels n the dark of night, purposely excluding any Democrats. The total cost was estimated to be a windfall revenue of $750 billion over 10 years for the drug companies, over and above their regular outrageous prices. This is OUR Government at work.

I hate to even call it our Government because I dont consider it our Government. I consider it a bunch of crooks, liars, thieves, con men, opportunists, bigoted white men, elitists who can't relate to anyone not making over a million a year, heirs to great family fortunes, and assorted snakeoil salemen, along with phony religious fanatics and hipocrits.

In my mind, I try to always remember that this is not really our Government. It might as well be the Mafia or Cosa Nostra. It's corrupt to the bone, and life means nothing. Even murder mean nothing, which is what Iraq has come to symbolize----just pure murder to keep the war machine profitable.

For the life of me, I dont know why we need 25,000 nuclear bombs and why they just arent dismantled and discarded for the most part over about a six month period. No one even knows how much it costs to maintain them because it apparently is not in the regular defense budget.

Do ya think we'll ever get someone who really levels with us? And someone who has a fierce "fire in the belly" to accomplish grand and magnificent visions for the future.

The solutions to all our problems are quite simple. They just need a leader.

#77776 by gbheil
Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:20 pm
Quote:
And I'm not so sure he is really Commander-in-Chief. It seems as if the Commanders on the ground are calling the shots, not Obama.

Thank God for small favors, and HE is the ANSWER TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS !!

You know, I had to go there. :D

#77789 by AirViking
Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:15 pm
actually thats pretty on que.

Oh, and im terribly sorry for making this a politcal forum.
Dont tread on me! hahahha

#77798 by TheCaptain
Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:07 pm
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

“the foundation of the Constitution” and added, “to take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn … is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.”

Thomas Jefferson

#77802 by Sir Jamsalot
Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:06 pm
celticpiping wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

“the foundation of the Constitution” and added, “to take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn … is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.”

Thomas Jefferson


Amen!

#77860 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:34 pm
Just vote for me next time.I will hit liars and cheats over the head with Crips new Les Paul,OUCH.Carry a big stick. :)
The only real problem with our country is ENERGY...We can actually sustain these ridiculous tax rates and govt waste. We can't if it costs $100 a week or more in gas to get to work, Or $700 a month electric bills [Arizona]or $1000 a month heating bills[northeast]
You vote for me and I will open all the oil fields,put up nuclear plants,new coal plants, and once and for all buy us the time needed to develope "green power".

As far as "global warming,and ozone depletion" the answer is simple. EAT a cow,or pig.Methane production from our livestock is our #1 pollutant.
I propose diaper collection systems for all our livestock. the power generated from methane would save millions of barrels of oil a day. :)

Furthermore it seems that it has become politically correct to BASH corporations. SINCE when has it become wrong to make money in this country?
God in any language or faith never says it is wrong to prosper.[making money]
I guess the real socialists in this country are the corporations because they put more people to work than any govt could. Sometimes we don't like it but you at least have the freedom to switch jobs or.. start your own corporation.
I just don't understand this attitude that because someone has more it is O.K. steal from them and take it away.
Repeat after me, Making money is not evil. Not being allowed the opportunity to make money is very evil.
By the way my energy plans would put so many people back to work we would have to start importing workers :)

#77862 by ratsass
Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:40 pm
GONGHEAD wrote:Furthermore it seems that it has become politically correct to BASH corporations. SINCE when has it become wrong to make money in this country?


I don't think anyone is saying it is wrong (even for corporations) to make money. It's HOW the money is made that is in question.
If a man pulls a gun on you and takes your wallet, he's making money. But does that make it right? :)

#77863 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:47 pm
Yeah and thats exactly why you need a new Les Paul with a secret gun compartment to make that thieif think twice. Besides you might get some great new tones with some metal tucked away.HEAVY METAL :lol:

#77864 by fisherman bob
Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:53 pm
First and foremost NO healthcare legislation will succeed without MASSIVE TORT REFORM. When doctors are paying over HALF their salries in medical liability insurance it doesn't TAKE AN IDIOT to figure out THAT'S what's driving up our healthcare costs. Obama is an ATTORNEY. He does not want tort reform for one reason, and one reason only: PAYBACK. He was elected primarily with the gazillions of attorneys' dollars injected into his campaign. EVERY industry is CONTROLLED by lawyers. EVERY company has attorneys on their payroll who CONTROL everything. The money is going somewhere. It's ALL being funnelled somewhere. Where is that somewhere? Who controls the money? IT'S THE LEGAL PROFESSION. Why isn't pot legal? It's the attorneys who represent various industries who stand a chance to lose billions of dollars in revenue if pot were legalized. FOLLOW THE MONEY. The MASSIVE healthcare bill (over a thousand pages) is NOTHING BUT A GIANT LEGAL DOCUMENT intended at every page to CONTROL the money. It's all about somebody squeezing our collective testicles and NOT LETTING GO. GET IT?

#77866 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:58 pm
Man with a pen can steal more than a man with a gun. You gotta hit them both over the head with Crips new Les Paul to get their attention.

#77869 by philbymon
Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:02 pm
Goingly - I seem to remember something about a camel passing through the eye of a needle being easier than a rich guy entering heaven. If that ain't saying something in response to your last post, I dunno what is.

There is nothing wrong with making an honest buck - the operative word being "HONEST."

Therein lies the problem, especially when the corporation buys the gov't official to use to its own nefarious ends. You don't have a problem with a 15,000% markup on a patented drug that's necessary for the continuation of life? I sure do! Ppl die every year from lack of care, although the care is available, due to costs. Ppl lose their ancestral homes, their legacies to their children, their jobs & ability to work & contribute, every day in this country. Yeah, I hold the greed of the corporation, which has no soul, & few guiding controls, to task for this shameful situation.

There is a reason that it's becoming clear that we have serious problems with corporations running amok in this country - the reason being that they ARE! They buy, not one or two, but several congressmen, & make them bend to their will with campaign contributions. Do "we the people" have that kind of backing to insure that our interests are protected?

A corporation has the same rights as an individual in this country, legally speaking. Unfortunately, they have, in many cases, vast amounts of money at their disposal to insure their profits at our expense. They force their agendas into our "food pyramids" to include their unhealthy products in our diets. They sneak in the "right" to sell us unhealthy dyes in our rugs, our very clothes. They stop others from making an honest buck with healthy alternatives - can you say "only a drug can be used as a curative?"

No, due to the vast amounts of funds at their disposal, some corporations actually have MORE rights than you or I. They can buy our gov't, & make a lot of money when they do.

They can also keep other corporations from even coming into the market, with unfair laws & regulations. When was the last time you tried to start up a new company? Try it sometime. The insurance, the unfair taxes, the health guidelines will crush you if you aren't already pretty well off to start with. I love it when ppl brag about the potential we have here, when we've come damned close to erasing it, thanks to our own gov't.

#77879 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:01 pm
I know first hand. I' m getting crushed by govt regs,and taxes.Only I wont quit.Just last week I lost 4 jobs because of the cash for clunkers program.I can't I blame any of my customers its a great deal.
It was a lot of cash off my plate.... I can't compete with a govt giving away free stuff,money with my tax dollars. I can compete with a corp that has to show a profit,,,, I do it all the time.
Even when the playing field is totally against me I'm not gonna start crying,I'm just gonna call up RATSASS and have him bring his tractor over to mow my new lawn, when I become President :lol:

#77880 by ratsass
Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:02 pm
VROOM, VROOM! On my way, Glen. :)

#77885 by 1collaborator
Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:47 pm
Dont hurt any les pauls taking care of business, use a strat !


And its another day in Paradise !!!

#77889 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:07 pm
STRATS just don't have the same weight. Nothing like a couple good whacks with a good axe.

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