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#76937 by The Writer
Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:45 pm
What's wrong with just learning to groove with the music? It's not playing by ear really, but dancing with the keyboards. Sort of like putting your self in a trance-not psychodelic :lol: but definating touching the zone. And if you happen to sound like the song (dandy, Swell. and with a bag of chips).
I realize that the more technique, and theory you have, also the wider the musical territory at your disposal, and the faster one keys in to a song. But whatever happened to the solo of rampant disregard of "damn the torpedos" and full speed ahead.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Don't get me wrong, I want to learn the ism's and the do'ims, but I also don't want to put a halt to my creations, in doing so. Is there a fine medium?
#76942 by RGMixProject
Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:03 pm
The Writer wrote:What's wrong with just learning to groove with the music? It's not playing by ear really, but dancing with the keyboards. Sort of like putting your self in a trance-not psychodelic :lol: but definating touching the zone. And if you happen to sound like the song (dandy, Swell. and with a bag of chips).
I realize that the more technique, and theory you have, also the wider the musical territory at your disposal, and the faster one keys in to a song. But whatever happened to the solo of rampant disregard of "damn the torpedos" and full speed ahead.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Don't get me wrong, I want to learn the ism's and the do'ims, but I also don't want to put a halt to my creations, in doing so. Is there a fine medium?


Some people hear things as they is and some people hear things as they are.

Some people can't hear and some people don't wanna hear.

Is there a fine medium? Nope :idea:

#77007 by The Writer
Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:56 pm
Sounds like a mixture ofDuke Ellington with dash of John Kennedy.
Thanks
As they say in Norway-Boba-de-bing and a Boba-de boo

#77008 by The Writer
Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:06 pm
But, I have to disagree with you RG. Send me anything, and I' bet you I can put my musically uneducated, and ignorant ass into it, within a week. I've never done thing like this, and I'm talking about using my keyboardsand my God given talent...none parameters except a week. Length or complexity doen't matter. All that matters is that it fits fits fluently-zones in, and of course reasonable lengh throughou the song. Are yoiu game?

#77013 by RGMixProject
Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:47 pm
The Writer wrote:But, I have to disagree with you RG. Send me anything, and I' bet you I can put my musically uneducated, and ignorant ass into it, within a week. I've never done thing like this, and I'm talking about using my keyboardsand my God given talent...none parameters except a week. Length or complexity doen't matter. All that matters is that it fits fits fluently-zones in, and of course reasonable lengh throughou the song. Are yoiu game?


Sure, just go to my web site and leave a message with your email.

#77014 by The Writer
Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:55 pm
Thanks. I'll get crackin.
#77226 by Black57
Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:32 am
The Writer wrote:What's wrong with just learning to groove with the music? It's not playing by ear really, but dancing with the keyboards. Sort of like putting your self in a trance-not psychodelic :lol: but definating touching the zone. And if you happen to sound like the song (dandy, Swell. and with a bag of chips).
I realize that the more technique, and theory you have, also the wider the musical territory at your disposal, and the faster one keys in to a song. But whatever happened to the solo of rampant disregard of "damn the torpedos" and full speed ahead.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Don't get me wrong, I want to learn the ism's and the do'ims, but I also don't want to put a halt to my creations, in doing so. Is there a fine medium?


This may sound silly but you must use the "force" Luke. Music should be approached by sight. You should be able to see the beat as well as hear it. That being said, allow theory to help you get to that achivement. Theory isn't the key, it is the door- grasshopper. Get the key so that you can open the door. I wonder what the musical artists did back-in-the-day before theory? My guess is that the used theory much less back in those days. Learning theory is great but the time must come when you must wave good bye to theory and rely on your own expansive imagination.

#77353 by Whitesel
Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:06 pm
I call it "Tapping into the musical ether" Some people might call it inspiration from God. One friend used to say it was the energy from Ghosts of dead musicians, I guess you could even call it "the Musical Force" :)

It's when you let your mind relax and tap into this "zone". You can play things far beyond your ability without even trying, play on stage without even thinking of the song you are playing or come up with great song ideas by just jamming. Not sure exactly what you would call it, never thought about it too much, I just do it on occasion.

I would think it has to do with using a part of your brain differently, like how an idiot savant uses his brain differently to be able to play perfect classical pieces with never taking a single lesson and just hearing a musical score once. Even some of the best trained musicians will never play as well as some of these idiot savants that never practice or had a single lesson in their life.

You can definitely get a "high" from it. In a way I think it is some sort of "force" .

Just like when some people enter a room and they have a way of giving of "bad vibes or negative energy" You can redirect this "good musicical Vibe" to people you are around and get their minds to tune into it as well.

I've even used this "energy" to affect other people I'm playing with to bring them into the same "zone" and used it to get crowds "in tune" to what we were playing.

I would imagine great artists have the ability to tune into this at will, and musical idiot savants have this ability too much, making it impossible to function in other parts of their life.

#77360 by AirViking
Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:46 pm
Whitesel wrote:I call it "Tapping into the musical ether" Some people might call it inspiration from God. One friend used to say it was the energy from Ghosts of dead musicians, I guess you could even call it "the Musical Force" :)

It's when you let your mind relax and tap into this "zone". You can play things far beyond your ability without even trying, play on stage without even thinking of the song you are playing or come up with great song ideas by just jamming. Not sure exactly what you would call it, never thought about it too much, I just do it on occasion.

I would think it has to do with using a part of your brain differently, like how an idiot savant uses his brain differently to be able to play perfect classical pieces with never taking a single lesson and just hearing a musical score once. Even some of the best trained musicians will never play as well as some of these idiot savants that never practice or had a single lesson in their life.

You can definitely get a "high" from it. In a way I think it is some sort of "force" .

Just like when some people enter a room and they have a way of giving of "bad vibes or negative energy" You can redirect this "good musicical Vibe" to people you are around and get their minds to tune into it as well.

I've even used this "energy" to affect other people I'm playing with to bring them into the same "zone" and used it to get crowds "in tune" to what we were playing.

I would imagine great artists have the ability to tune into this at will, and musical idiot savants have this ability too much, making it impossible to function in other parts of their life.


I think im one of those idiots hahaha.
Im glad to see there are people willing to say what theyt think regardless of others opinions still. I like this post.
#77403 by HowlinJ
Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:04 am
The Writer wrote:What's wrong with just learning to groove with the music? It's not playing by ear really, but dancing with the keyboards. Sort of like putting your self in a trance-not psychodelic :lol: but definating touching the zone. And if you happen to sound like the song (dandy, Swell. and with a bag of chips).
I realize that the more technique, and theory you have, also the wider the musical territory at your disposal, and the faster one keys in to a song. But whatever happened to the solo of rampant disregard of "damn the torpedos" and full speed ahead.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Don't get me wrong, I want to learn the ism's and the do'ims, but I also don't want to put a halt to my creations, in doing so. Is there a fine medium?


Writer,

In my part of Penn's Woods, what you,re describing is called "JAMMIN"
Some may argue that to pull out all the stops and go with the flow is something that should be avoided until the time that one has developed "THE CHOPS"

however....

It's hard to define when that time may be, so , grab a handful of keys and "RIP 'ER UP!"

The "FINE MEDIUM" is UNDEFINED!.

You may produce annoying noise, or a work of genius.
In any event, NOTHING happens unless you DO IT!

(hey....friggin' around with the capital button is kinda' fun!)

later
Howlin'

#77407 by Whitesel
Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:31 am
Maybe I got a little too deep on that one...yeah...just call it Jammin'! ;)

#77469 by dan445
Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:25 pm
I like to go by the numbers when recording ( which might be why I don't care about a lot of studio work) but when we play out, people want to hear our hearts and soul. The rest of the band need to hear trademark licks but there are always room to jam.

#79663 by Starfish Scott
Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:45 pm
My pencil is floating.. lol
#85030 by Class Cat
Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:18 pm
:cry: Not everyone receives the same thing the same way. :(

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