sanshouheil wrote:Life is a gateway drug.Unfortunately it's getting increasingly difficult for anybody to experience life. We're being bombarded by so much crap, all kinds of pollution, noise, smog, water, constant advertising, people having to work two jobs just to survive financially, etc. We need time and space just to do nothing so we CAN experience life. Life ISN'T all the artificial crap we're all exposed to on a daily basis. Life IS thinking CLEARLy about who you are and what purpose you have for just existing. I can't believe LIFE happened by accident. We exist because billions of years ago just the right molecules got together by CHANCE and evolved into us? We all need TIME and SPACE to just THINK about things FREE OF ANYTHING ARTIFICIAL. LIFE has meaning. Is it pure dumb luck I'm sitting at a computer in my basement writing this? Did I evolve by dumbass luck out of some primordial ooze? I feel sorry for anybody who believes that people exist for no other reason than luck. Take a good long look at yourself in a mirror. I guarantee you have meaning. Now just go find it.
That Bob is brilliant!!! I love that Bob!!!
Life is also the ultimate drug.
We detract so much from what our minds bodies and spirits can do by injesting said drugs.
Man just get high on life for a while, you'll be an addict.
I promise!!!
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#76142 by fisherman bob
Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:31 am
Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:31 am
#76246 by ColorsFade
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:05 pm
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:05 pm
fisherman bob wrote:I feel sorry for anybody who believes that people exist for no other reason than luck.
Why? Why do you feel sorry for people who believe that?
And why do you believe that they think their lives have no meaning because of it?
Why can't life have meaning if we're the result of cosmic chance?
I happen to believe that it was just chance that we're here. And that makes our presence here - in my mind - all the more marvelous and wonderful. And I think it gives incredible significance and meaning to our lives. We're her! And we've managed to survive and advance our civilization as a collective whole; look at what we've done!
Our lives have meaning - they have the meaning that we give them! So it's all the more important that we continue to evolve as a species - that we continue to advance and share ideas and grow and learn and experience what our world has to offer.
It also makes the future incredibly exciting! We have no idea who else is out there in the cosmos; who else might have evolved out of pure chance? It's amazing to even think about that possibility!
Allow me to address this one Bob.
It's not so to down others , Colors.
Or so much to make others wrong, as some might accuse.
It's more a sense of not being able to comprehend the point of view.
I when in some settings, feel so close, so, at one, with the Creator.
Truly as a son feels for his loving father.
I cannot comprehend how anyone place in the same setting. Would not feel exactly the same way.
And my belief in God as creator, in no way deminishes the possability of the future.
I put no limit to the power of my creator.
It's not so to down others , Colors.
Or so much to make others wrong, as some might accuse.
It's more a sense of not being able to comprehend the point of view.
I when in some settings, feel so close, so, at one, with the Creator.
Truly as a son feels for his loving father.
I cannot comprehend how anyone place in the same setting. Would not feel exactly the same way.
And my belief in God as creator, in no way deminishes the possability of the future.
I put no limit to the power of my creator.
I smoked pot once,,, It was outside the territorial waters of the U.S. Oh and I didn't inhale. Anybody got some sex questions they need clarified?
Not really Dave.
I mean, try to communicate to a non musician, how it feels to create a song, then perform that song on a stage, and have people appreciate not just what you created but what it is you have performed.
It really can't be done, so much of what we confer to each other is lost to the "non musician".
I have had the same experience as a martialist.
When someone sees for themselves just how hard I would train.
"You get up at 4am just to do forms for an hour, then run five miles before breakfast" ? "Seven days a week"? "What the hell FOR !!!"
Do they comprehend the adrenalin rush or the feeling of power from doing what so few can or will. No
Not anymore than I can understand why someone would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.
I mean, try to communicate to a non musician, how it feels to create a song, then perform that song on a stage, and have people appreciate not just what you created but what it is you have performed.
It really can't be done, so much of what we confer to each other is lost to the "non musician".
I have had the same experience as a martialist.
When someone sees for themselves just how hard I would train.
"You get up at 4am just to do forms for an hour, then run five miles before breakfast" ? "Seven days a week"? "What the hell FOR !!!"
Do they comprehend the adrenalin rush or the feeling of power from doing what so few can or will. No
Not anymore than I can understand why someone would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.
#76270 by Dave Couture
Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:56 am
Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:56 am
Sorry Sans, I was just being sarcastic about this thread turning into another religious debate, like the one on the Healthcare thread 
Last edited by Dave Couture on Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
Slowly but surely, things are starting to change, and it's about time. The Oakland tax is just another example of the coming tide in marijuana law reformation. The west coast is obviously leading the movement, but, several other States and regions are doing the same or, as I believe, soon will. The only thing that has been holding up the change, is the christian-right (I mean no offense to christians at all) and the power/influence that they have with/over many political figures.
I didn't read all of the posts, so if I repeat some of the things that have been said...my fault. As far as marijuana being a gateway drug, I'm not sure how much statistical evidence there is to support that claim. But, lets face it, someone who tries marijuana and likes it, are probably more apt to experiment with other drugs, just out of curiousity, if nothing else; "Hey, if this is good, then maybe that will be to." I would expect that to be true, mainly among the youth, who are more impressionable and sometimes, easily swayed. I must admit, I tried marijuana as a teenager, like it, and soon tried several others, eventually, some of those things becoming problems for me later in life. And while it may not sound like it or seem as though I'm on the fence...I'm not. I completely support the changes, 100%!
As long as the laws govern it the same way as they do alcohol, I'm all for it. Previous posts stated the amount of money that the goverment and states will be able to make off of marijuana, and in these tough ecomomic times, something needs to be done to help. Again, as previously stated, we all see/know how well prohibition worked out, and on top of that, the legalization of prostitution has been extremely profitable for the area's where it has been allowed...Marijuana will do the same. Besides, alcohol, in my belief, and I think the proof is in the pudding, is much more dangerous then marijuana is or probably could ever be. When was the last time any of us heard about some stoned individual speeding down the highway, crossing the dividing line and killing a family, in a head on collision. Those type of things do and have happened, but, I can't recall the last time I heard about it....or, some guy, baked off of his ass, beats up his wife/girlfriend, not very often. Most stoned dudes I know, are either staring at the tv, listening to music, etc...and much to mellow for things like that.
To wrap up, look at Denmark/Holland, where marijuana has been legal for many years, they don't seem to have a great deal of issues related to it. I live in Ohio, a very conservative state, so, it may take some time for the changes to happen here, as it will in most places, some longer then others. Like I said at the beginning of this post, it's about time, and the wave of change is on the way.
I didn't read all of the posts, so if I repeat some of the things that have been said...my fault. As far as marijuana being a gateway drug, I'm not sure how much statistical evidence there is to support that claim. But, lets face it, someone who tries marijuana and likes it, are probably more apt to experiment with other drugs, just out of curiousity, if nothing else; "Hey, if this is good, then maybe that will be to." I would expect that to be true, mainly among the youth, who are more impressionable and sometimes, easily swayed. I must admit, I tried marijuana as a teenager, like it, and soon tried several others, eventually, some of those things becoming problems for me later in life. And while it may not sound like it or seem as though I'm on the fence...I'm not. I completely support the changes, 100%!
As long as the laws govern it the same way as they do alcohol, I'm all for it. Previous posts stated the amount of money that the goverment and states will be able to make off of marijuana, and in these tough ecomomic times, something needs to be done to help. Again, as previously stated, we all see/know how well prohibition worked out, and on top of that, the legalization of prostitution has been extremely profitable for the area's where it has been allowed...Marijuana will do the same. Besides, alcohol, in my belief, and I think the proof is in the pudding, is much more dangerous then marijuana is or probably could ever be. When was the last time any of us heard about some stoned individual speeding down the highway, crossing the dividing line and killing a family, in a head on collision. Those type of things do and have happened, but, I can't recall the last time I heard about it....or, some guy, baked off of his ass, beats up his wife/girlfriend, not very often. Most stoned dudes I know, are either staring at the tv, listening to music, etc...and much to mellow for things like that.
To wrap up, look at Denmark/Holland, where marijuana has been legal for many years, they don't seem to have a great deal of issues related to it. I live in Ohio, a very conservative state, so, it may take some time for the changes to happen here, as it will in most places, some longer then others. Like I said at the beginning of this post, it's about time, and the wave of change is on the way.
I never tried anything, I am high on life.. or maybe it's high for life..
no matter..lol
no matter..lol
#76858 by ColorsFade
Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:32 pm
Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:32 pm
Chippy wrote:Just like the common cigarette one day.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/30/newman.tobacco.ban/index.html
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