General Music Chat

Wow, the anger…lol! Insult me all you want, I won’t lose any sleep tonight!

You won’t believe how much things we have in common….lol! You think you are the only one who has to deal with illegal aliens invading the economy, while being taxed and millions of $$$ are going to help others in the world? C’mon, man, I suggest you go to Europe for a while. You think the US has it bad, consider yourself lucky that you are only sharing borders with 2 countries. And, again, I said in another post that the reasons we do better than you right now, economically, is because of our laws/regulations. They are a lot more strict than the States and they are meant to protect the ppl, not the big corporations. The UN even used Canada as a good example, 2 months ago, on how to regulate the economy...so, as far as I'm concern, it has nothing to do with the US pouring too much money overseas. It's just bad, greedy, management from your government and corps…PERIOD.....ACCEPT THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can go on and on whining about your misery, but the truth is, most ppl who live in the G8, feel the EXACT same way as you do. So, I don’t feel sorry for you nor put you in a higher place than everybody else. As for you commenting that we help others just to feel good, that’s just bigotry. Canada is WELL known and appreciated, in the world stage, for its contribution, worldwide. We have been helping others since Canada became Canada. We always volunteer to help others, THAT my friend, is the Canadian way (always has been).

I think you should get out of the States for a while and explore the world. Or, better yet, read the world News....you’ll see, things are not as black and white as you want to believe.

Ah, JH. It's okay. I happen to disagree, that's all. I don't think we are saving much in the world, & I don't think we do much for our own, either. I think that most of what we do is for our own corporations' benefit.

I'm not proud of that, if indeed it's as true as I suspect.

I might be in a cocoon, but it's one that the fodder our corporate (read - "gov't") news agencies feed me that causes this. I have very little knowledge of what is happening in the world on any given day, unless it's something that WE are directly involved in (in a "good" way!).

Yes, it's very frustrating to be an American. I feel it, too.

Obama isn't doing much that would be different from what McCain would have done. He still talks a good game, though. I'm just waiting for some sort of result...

The Dem Congress isn't any better than the Rep was.

They say our economy's improving, but I don't know who it's improving for, cuz it sure isn't me.

My son has some big bills coming in for his co-pays on my grandson's op. He shouldn't have this additional burden when he's working so hard, saving what he can, & busting his butt as a single dad. His co has reduced insurance coverage. The DHHR is not helping in any way. I'm trying to get him some help with day care, so I can go back to work, now that things seem to be settling down after the op, but I'm not getting anywhere there, either. His FMLA has been declined, cuz his co's HR dept flooked up & held paperwork back for over 2 weeks, then they said he would be covered on two dates only - Sept 2nd & Dec 2nd of this year. How the hell did they come up with that? I have no idea. It seems like they want to frustrate him to the point that he gives up & pays for it all, without missing any work, in spite of having stuff in place to assure him of help. Oh yeah, & they'll be more than happy to continue taking his ins costs out of his paycheck while the flook him, too! Can't have the ins co missing any payments, can we?

THAT, my friend, is how things work in the USA. It works that way in our corporations AND our gov't.

I just want it to stop. I want us to start addressing the issues that face us instead of playing blame games & using distractions to keep the status quo that benefits a few rich ppl (like those in our gov't).

Let's start taking care of AMERICANS. Yeah, that means that somebody's gonna hafta quit ripping off the system so those necessary funds can benefit us all. GET IT THE HELL DONE!

Great post philbymon ...

I think some of the differences between the US & Canada are as Dave Couture describes as the goverment looking out for it's people 1st and the corporations 2nd.

In Canada our systems are different from the US

1- Politico party elections are paid for by the government, this reduces
the power of corp. lobbyists. They also only last a month ... not 2yrs+

2- All Judges are appointed, again reduced power of corp. lobbyists.
This seem to limit liability amounts awarded in our lawsuits to either
side

3- The Canadian goverment is afraid of the people (I would say that
many Americans are afraid of their goverment, and maybe righty so.)

4- The Canadian goverment funds programs that look after it's citizens
1st, then helps the world 2nd

5- The Canadian goverment tries pass laws that have a balance between
what is good for it's people and what is good for corp's

6- Canadians as a whole are way more conservative (not as out going, or high risk)

To me there has to be a balance between what is good for it's people and what is good for corp's. Laws have to be in place so corp's greed doesn't harm the people and countries over all good (like the situation that we are in now). That is one of the things governments should be responsible for ... government should be the balance. This is hard to do when big business is buying the election.

I know to many people (friends) in the US that are in Kramer's position with health care and what philbymon said ... to me it's very heart breaking to see them work hard all their lives and then see it destroyed later in life (as they age) because they were denied HC because of a pre existing condition or their HMO will only cover part of the bill and some of my friends have lost everything they've worked all their life for.

Canada is doing better than most because it had those laws in place before the crash .... but as the economy spirals down ... Canada will to.

On a side note ... the wife and I make over 125K a year and we paid around 25K in taxes ... I don't think that's to bad


Ron

And, the winner is, RON

As someone who is not indigenous to this region but one who has been here for some time I think you'll find that in general Americans are all to aware of the problems that surround them. A lot of people on here are what I consider friends now having been here for a while.

There is no point to war other than reducing populations, there is no point to an argument without end because an argument is spawned from nothing at all.

Therefore this entire thread to my thinking has gone the way of nothingness but will be rekindled when someone has something to complain about I suspect?

There are many such threads here. All are pointless and serve little other than a momentary relief of stress.

I suggest free sex for everyone.

I don't know man, everything was going well in this thread, I find, until GONGHEAD started to insult Canadians and British, while putting the USA way up there, above everybody else in the world. To me, that's not releasing stress, this is just releasing hate and bigotry. Trying to put the blame on everybody else, for the bad things that are happening in America...this is just narrow-minded to me.

But, anyway, I understand what you are saying and I respect your wisdom. As for the free sex, didn't we tried that in the 60s? How did it turned out? LOL

Well I happened. By Accident. LOL!

But, anyway, I understand what you are saying and I respect your wisdom. As for the free sex, didn't we tried that in the 60s? How did it turned out? LOL

Thank you Ron. That is all I was asking for specifics the way you wrote your post is more the way Dave should have written. I would have respected him more if he had posted in a gentleman way but instead he wrote it in an insulting way, as I am sure I have pissed off more than a few Canadians with my response. I have been asking for some possible insite into the way government is ran in Canada and Great Britain for several days on several different threads here at bandmix. Then I run across Daves insult toward my country. Dave you are gonna get what you give in life. If you give sh*t thats exactly what you are going to get in return! No hard feelings though bro.

...Then I run across Daves insult toward my country. Dave you are gonna get what you give in life. If you give sh*t thats exactly what you are going to get in return! ...

Dude, roll back some. You are getting it all wrong, I was only replying to GONGHEAD's bigotry about MY COUNTRY. He gave me sh*t first (unprovoked...I never had a conversation with him prior to this), then I gave him sh*t in return..........as you put it.

It all started when GONGHEAD posted this:

Canada, Britain, and the whole f**k rest of the world.... You just benefit from the great minds and companies from the U.S.A. [am I shouting]......

CANADA LIVES AND LIVES BECAUSE OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY

Now, can you blame me for being mad and defending my country? You didn't like it when you thought I was insulting your country, then you should know how I feel about GONGHEAD's comments. And, for the record, I don't think I insulted the US. I believe I only insulted the Americans who are ignorant and arrogant It's not my type to generalize, ppl who know me well, will tell you this about me. Read all my posts, you'll see! Beside, I lived in the US and I have many great American friends!

My ONLY mistake, here, was to lower myself to GONGHEAD's level. I should have known better and I apologies if I insulted you!

I'm pretty much with philby on this one, I mean look at the whole wall st problem, not only did they completely fleece the economic system and make billions, they completely collapsed the system, got a taxpayer bailout, and then had the audacity to refuse to tell US how they spent the money, and then the bonus $$ started flying.

This was a direct result of de-regulation combined with complete corruption of our elected officials.

What's happened in the heal care industry, CAR insurance, hell.. ALL Insurances, and most other "big" business is also a direct result of corporate de-regulation and corporate owned lobbyists and politicians.

Let's face the truths here, sure there's nothing wrong with making money but consider this:

Between 1950 and 2000, America prospered, and we went from poor to middle class, as a society. Why? here's why:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/22845

a great article that's just a small piece of the puzzle.. worth a good read.

Given, I don't care for the partisan references in this article, simply because I don't think there's any difference between right and left anymore, other than the planted seeds of dissent they purposely sew in people (some in this thread) to keep us well divided, so we don't join together and overthrow their worthless asses.

So .. yeah.. I'm getting fed up with it all. Our leaders sold us out to Viagra and Coca-Cola, and every other product out there. Notice the lack of control over 'spam' and aggressive marketing? Our kids are being used as test marketing subjects in our own schools. WTF?? Our corporations have strapped the common worker with a non-livable wage and poor, if any, benefits and sit on their thrones of gold, crying about monthly profits being down .01%. What ever happened to the companies that suffered to make sure their employees didn't? Sold to the highest bidder.

It all makes me sick anymore.

Let me make one thing clear Dave there is a huge difference between the U.S. Government and the American People (U.S. citizens). It worries me and troubles me very much because I live in a land where the (so called Government) no longer represents the people. Even though I am extremely proud of my country and it's accomplishments. One of which we are celebrating the 40 year anniversery of the Apollo 11 Moon landing this Monday July 20th 1969. No other country on the face of this planet to this day has ever put a man on the moon. I believe this country to be the Greatest Country that has ever been on Earth. No Disrespect intended.
The United States Of America has accomplished more in our 233 years of existance than any other country in history. A lot of our fighting men have died in the name of peace and freedom We have been attacked on our own soil TWICE in 60 years the last time being 9/11. The rest of the world says we are arrogant and that hurts because we have stood for freedom and I think we can all agree on that. We as a people feel very misunderstood by the rest of the world. I feel like we have sacrificed so much only to be secretly hated by most of the world and the reason for the secrecy in my opinion is beacause the rest of the world needs our money and our consumptive apetite. Ron is correct the Government should fear the people and they do during Election time but that is the only time. I am a conserative and I believe that I can best manage my own money I don't need my crooked government to steal it from me and tell me how and when I can spend it. I however am afraid of my government. I am afraid they are going to take away my writes. I think that the Canadian way of Healthcare cannot succeeed under our current form of government they are to wasteful. Sure it must be a great thing for Canada but you have a different government that obviously is not as wasteful as ours. Basically our goverment is like a run away train out of control. This means at somepoint something has got to give. I don't believe when it happens it is going to be pretty. I think us U.S. citizens are going to have to pay a very high price.

Hey Bandmix I had nothing to do with this mess, but since I'm here let me put my 2C, Dave from Canada I'm with you all the way dude therefore I salute you with 3 cheers.

Hey Bandmix I had nothing to do with this mess, but since I'm here let me put my 2C, Dave from Canada I'm with you all the way dude therefore I salute you with 3 cheers.

Thanks for joining the chat SD. I happen to agree with Dave as well.

I'm a little confused -- I thought you weren't on BandMix anymore...

Canada, Britain, and the whole f**k rest of the world.... You just benefit from the great minds and companies from the U.S.A. [am I shouting]

This old fart is determined to show his ignorance as it were a virtue, hey bongohead lucky for your grandmother she died by accident and not from some prolonged disease coz she would be taking monthly trips along with thousands of senior citizen to Canada to buy prescription drugs.

Hey world please note that America is one but Americans are many and some are dumb as in the case of bongohead so excuse us if you get exposed from time to time to bunker minds like Bongohead, Heckley, the holy shmoly Sanseheil and few others, they never went further than their backyard and yet they think they know everything simply because they are Americans.

Like Dave from Canada noticed arrogance and stupidity abounds in this thread

Like Dave from Canada noticed arrogance and stupidity abounds in this thread

(Dave, this post is no reflection on you...)

When one examines the actions of others, one recognizes the faults because the same faults are in oneself. Prime example: StringDancer and STUPIDITY. You see it on the board because you are full of it yourself. It's sad that you feel the need to cause drama everywhere you post on this site.

What's wrong with you man -- didn't the letter you received teach you anything? You're going to get kicked off the site for good because you have this irresistable urge to offend everyone you're around. Are you this way in person? Do you walk around your community with a chip on your shoulder insulting everyone who happens to get on you nerves a bit? You're nothing but a trash talking punk who has nothing better to do with his time than to bring other people down in order to make yourself feel better about your pathetic little existence.

I don't particularly agree with GONGHEAD on everything, but that doesn't mean that I should call out GH on everything and insult GH's family. You're crossing lines here that you may not be able to uncross. Some friendly advise, IF the online community here decides to tolerate you much longer: tread lightly.