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#72812 by bundydude
Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:06 pm
I'm in the process of attempting to record a cd/ep, with an 8 track digital recorder. It will consist of vocals, guitar, bass and keyboards, and is in the progressive/power metal vein. At this time, using a human drummer is'nt possible. Can anyone suggest a good drum machine, that will fill the need. I need to be able to program it with off time beats and sick fills. Also, it needs to sound like actual drums and come at a resonable price. Please help...

#72814 by RhythmMan
Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:11 pm
I suggest you go back and read the previous postings.
This was answered extensively already, not too long ago.

#72819 by bundydude
Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:56 pm
RhythmMan...I'm new to BandMix and wasn't aware of the previous topic. I did search around and located it. Thank you very much! The Micro Zoom MRT-3B for $99, you say...Will look into it.

#72970 by jsantos
Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:05 pm
I use a Boss DR880 for my recordings:
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DR-880 is a rhythm-programming powerhouse that's loaded with drum, percussion, and bass sounds from Roland's SRX library. It also includes a collection of original waveforms. From studio drums and electronic kits to standard and exotic percussion instruments, the DR-880's sounds can be played and programmed as is, or customized with powerful tools such as independent compressors and EQs for the kick and snare, and a compressor and selection of COSM amp models for the bass.

You can get microscopic with the DR-880, but you also have the option of taking the simple route with its three EZ Compose buttons on the front panel, which allow original patterns to be constructed without note-by-note programming hassles. Patterns can be taken deeper with the Groove Modify feature, where various groove and triplet feels can be applied. Ghost notes can also be added automatically.

Guitar and bass players can join the action by plugging directly to the DR-880's Guitar/Bass Input jack. Guitarists can play through the built-in COSM Drive/Amp models and multi-effects such as chorus/flanger/phaser, delay, and reverb. For acoustic guitar, the DR-880 offers an Acoustic Processor, chorus, and reverb. Bass players can spice up their tone with the DR-880's compressor/limiter, chorus/flanger/phaser, delay, and COSM bass amp models.

In addition to an array of analog audio I/O, the DR-880 also has a S/PDIF digital out and a USB port for MIDI interfacing and SMF Data import.

#72971 by ratsass
Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:21 pm
Were you using the 880 on "Brainwasher"? If so, I couldn't tell it from a real drummer. If not, are any of your posted songs using the 880?

#72974 by jsantos
Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:37 pm
ratsass wrote:Were you using the 880 on "Brainwasher"? If so, I couldn't tell it from a real drummer. If not, are any of your posted songs using the 880?


Brainwasher was done with a studio drummer.

The "Alternative Instrumental" backing track was done with a DR880.

The patern is a Factory Preset.

The Guitar effects were also going through the drum machine's built in guitar processor (same COSM engine used in Roland's VG systems).

This drum machine is a good stand alone unit for recording straight into protools or cubase via USB interface.

The original poster said he was going to use a 8 track digital which this good for this Drum machine because of the stereo outputs.


Bundy suggested the Zoom MRT-3B for $99 whis is also a good choice.

I like the DR880 because it also can function as a guitar and bass pre-amp (for the 3am sessions with earphones)
#73290 by Groove-in
Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:05 am
I am a "solo" musician, Piano, Drum machine, and vocals. I would like to know more about the Dr Rhythm 880, Bass accompliment. I now use an antiquated Yamaha drum Machine.(drums only).
I would like to have Bass Guitar, as well as, drums.

#73296 by ZXYZ
Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:49 am
I would like to find a drum machine that I could pound with sticks or fingers and it would correct any off-tempos, and go back and I could add fills, cymbals and hi-hat etc the same way quickly before I lose my original idea for the song that I'm working up. Too much to ask? Or too expen$ive..

#73307 by Dajax
Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:18 am
I really like my Alesis SR-16. It has lots of nice sounds, and some cool built in beats. It has pretty extensive programming abilities, but I just play it "live" by hooking it up to my keyboard via midi.

#73333 by jsantos
Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:43 pm
Hi guys!

The Boss DR line has been around for decades and was specifically built with guitarists in mind. The trigger keys or buttons are arranged like strings on the fretboard, the succession of E A D G strings from bottom register up (like a bass). This means that you can fret the notes as you would on the guitar.

The keys or buttons are velocity controlled so the harder you hit the louder the drum sample sounds giving your drum track sequences a dynamic feel. The presets are abundant and can be augmented. There are hundreds of assignable kits.

Programming original drum tracks can be done real time by using the key pads or attaching a midi drum pad to the console. You can also program your original drum patters with a grid layout on the screen.

As for the bass feature, the velocity keys work the same way. The harder you punch the louder the bass gets. But its not just raising the volume because the bass sample actually was recorded with the dynamics of a person plucking the string harder, giving you the slight nuances of a bass clipping or popping.

The feature I like most about the DR880 is the ease of using the sequencer. You can jam to any key, any type of progression, style and tempo by minor adjustments with one finger. The Dr880 gives you countless variations on major, minor, 7ths and even augmented and diminished if you know how to work with modes and inversions.

Guitarists, you can jam countless hours on one rhythm track by just scrolling through progressions. It gives you a read out of what chord is being played and the other chords measures ahead.

ZXYZ wrote:I would like to find a drum machine that I could pound with sticks or fingers and it would correct any off-tempos, and go back and I could add fills, cymbals and hi-hat etc the same way quickly before I lose my original idea for the song that I'm working up. Too much to ask? Or too expen$ive..


With the quantize feature, the drums that you record live will be corrected to the time signatures you program in, and all beats fall into place. You then can save the new user patter and the add to it later. You can also ad ghost notes to ad the human factor to it making the pattern more natural.

Groove-in wrote:I am a "solo" musician, Piano, Drum machine, and vocals. I would like to know more about the Dr Rhythm 880, Bass accompliment. I now use an antiquated Yamaha drum Machine.(drums only).
I would like to have Bass Guitar, as well as, drums.


The bass accompaniment feature is fully programmable and can be triggered by the key pad or by a midi controller (keyboard). Like the drum samples, the bass guitar feature has abundant settings and you can choose anything from a standard to a fretless to a synth bass. You can record in real time.

Like I said, the built in guitar effects uses the same engine as the Roland VG processors using the COSM modeling.

This means that you can cut an acceptable demo just by using a guitar, the DR880, and a recorder anytime (usually, the best ideas come to me around 2am winding down from a day).

Check it out! This drum machine is quite popular and you can find it at Guitar Center and other retail stores. You should try it out and see if it is something you can work with. Its not too hard to use and it can be great for plug and play situations. You may want to spend more time with the manual or the included DvD to better understand the depths of the features.

Thanks for your time.

#73338 by RhythmMan
Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:18 pm
I bought the Zoom MRT-3B for $99.
400 rhythms in 4 banks; any tempo, and you can record rhythms for your songs for playback.
It's not a heavy duty machine - so if you drop your amp on it, it'll break.
But for $100, it's a lot of power.
Real wavs, of course - also a fingerpad for playing what you want.
Great for practice or recording or even performing small gigs.
You can set it to light each drum beat, and turn the volume off, to use it as a visual metronome, too.
Again, the main feature is: it only cost $100.
I bought one, and I'm happy with it.
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Practice against new and different rhythms, and you'd be surprised at what you'll learn . . .

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