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The reason I haven't answered your question is because it is irrelevent.

It's not irrelevant. It was just a question. A lot of REAL police officers have been killed in the last year by US citizens. I wanted to know what you thought of those killings, and what your level of outrage was. It seems to me that you don't really care that a cop was killed; you care that an illegal alien did it.

I think you are right to be angry. I just think you're angry for the wrong reason.

As far as legal citizens go I would much rather help them when they are down and out. But I would prefer the old adage give a man a fish and he eats for a day teach him to fish and he eats for life.

I don't think you've understood what I've been getting at. I'm not for handouts. I'm not for pardoning the illegal immigrant because they're down and out.

What I've been trying to do is get you to think, and to realize that maybe not everything is black and white, and simple as you want to believe it is. That maybe there's a reason for a person's behavior that you haven't thought about.

Do you believe all illegal immigrants are scum?

I think it is utterly rediculas the way you compare the non citizens who sneak into this country that want nothing to do with us except to exploit our economy to the legal deserving citizens SHAME ON YOU DUDE!

You have direct experience with illegal aliens, so your view of them is colored by that experience. I have experience with US citizens who have the same goals: to exploit our economy and health care system.

Maybe you think all illegals are evil and all US citizens are perfect? I'm being facetious.

What about welfare rats who pop out a new kid every 12 months and live off the generosity of the US government and health care system? Do you know why your premiums are so high? Because welfare mom down the street with five kids doesn't make appointments at the doctors office when she or her kids get sick like you do; she goes straight to the emergency room, without health insurance, and YOU pay for that through higher premiums.

But it would be a bad, sweeping generalization if I said everyone one welfare is the problem. Some people have no other choice, and actually do want to work and aren't trying to exploit the system.

Generalization are bad. And wrong. And I make the same mistakes as everyone else. There's a group of people I rail against too; so I guess I'm no different than you.

But it sure is disappointing that we have to be this way.

Guys you are both good people.
Get out of the ring.

Colors Fade, I am appalled anytime anyone is murdered. Life to me is a very precious thing. The older I get the more compassionate I become. I have been trying to get everyone on this site to think. that is why I started this thread. To get all of you to wake up. From my perspective you are asleep. What you call my view being colored by experience. I call fact. It frustrates me when I tell you over and over. You just asked me if I think all illegal immigrants are scum. when several post ago I told you about them wanting to be put in the front of the line IN FRONT OF THE GOOD FOLKS well the good folks are Mexicans to. Do you remember that? I am listening to you. But you are not listening to me because you would not have asked that question when I have already told you twice. I am not trying to be rude just direct. You can't learn anything in life son if you don't listen. They are all 100% criminals they break the LAW TO ENTER ILLEGALLY INTO THIS COUNTRY I think they are lazy because they don't try to change their own country. It is easier for them to come over here and the dumbass gringo's will just give it to them. After spending more than half my life 25 years with them I know what they are about. I just wish people with your view would wake up. But it is already to late because it's obvious there are more people with your view than mine. That is one hell of a good reason to be angry bro. to be called a racist in my own country by a bunch of criminal aliens when I am 1/4 native American Cherokee Indian my grandfather was full blooded and you want to talk about a people who really got screwed you don't here me bitchin about that. I am damn proud to be American it has been a privilege!

Another Houston police officer dies at the hands of a criminal alien. Sorry folks I know this is a tired subject, tired in the sense that we as American citizens feel helpless to do anything about it. While 10's of millions of people with no regard for our laws what so ever, break the law to enter our country and want to be treated as though they have a right to be here. They want to be put in the front of the line for legal citizenship ahead of the good folks that are entering the country legally and obeying our laws to become productive citizens. All the while the president of Mexico creates a hand book to show the citizens of Mexico how to break the law and sneak into the country.
The liberal media does not report these kind of things and our so called politicians are so afraid of the political power that the sypathizers have they won't do anything about it.
The way I see it is, our country is systematically being stolen right from under our noses and we the American people are allowing it to happen out of fear of being called a rascist. This is exactly what the sympathizers want because they know this country has a stigma of rascisim. In my opinion that stigma is going to bring this country to its knee's unless all American citizens OF ALL RACES band together wake up and stop this madness.

Oh boy Heckly is acting up again, there are countless of murders in the US 99.9% done by wasps and so called legal citizen and yet the one that outrages this dunce is the one committed by an alien, yo Heckly you are very selective in your outrage which it shows how severe your xenophobia is.

Then this redneck wacko goes on to say Americans don’t do anything for fear of being labeled racists (note the correct spelling Mr. University employee) never occurring to this genius that most Americans might be empathizing with the plight of these misfortunate people understanding that these poor souls want to be able to feed their families and kids and if given the choice they would be more than happy to stay in their native countries rather than emigrate and subject themselves to hateful morons.

Americans for the most part are not racists only you and some in the south of the US suffer from that ugly disease, it took more than 600.000 thousand American lives and almost 150 years to teach the redneck nation that ownership of human beings by other human beings is wrong and immoral, now that the black issue is almost resolved the Hecklys of the south are directing their racist tendencies toward another group of human beings under the guise of observing the low when in fact these xenophobes are satisfying their natural urge to hate.

Heckly you are blight to America, a disgrace to your fellow Americans and a hypocrite to the tenet of your religion, now go thumb your babble book and read the part “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”

I found this surfing around:

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

My feelings exactly. Thank you JW & Teddy!

This is very bad, hiding behind a screen and screaming at each other.
Stingdancer, my # is there, I would love to get into a political debate with you over the phone, if you have the balls. Otherwise its only 2 hours to L.I. fromR,I, come on down. I thought you were trying to be nice,,,,to CHIPPY.
My name is Glen not GONG HEAD. I'm not going to sit here and attack some one while I'm hiding behind a screen, I realize how stupid that is.
You and Colors have your opinions that you are totaly allowed, but don't bring it down to a personal level of attack ,that is the traditional LIBERAL approach.
This country is in deeper sh*t than most realize,things that have not happened yet.Houston has been going through high temps lately, causes some frustrations. I think we should be a bit more appreciative of great players like Haley, instead of just attacking him.
If any one has has a problem with this I would love to hear from you. This is no longer fun hiding behind a screen name,I can't type what I would rather say in person.

Hey Glen. The slingdancer doesn't have any real political beliefs, He's just here to sling his slop at ppl, like a 'tard in a cafeteria. He's just a negative. You can't have adult discourse with a negative.



Back on the subject - it matters not, really, what their reasons are for illegally entering the country. It still comes down to the fact that they are here illegally.

You want to address their gov't & its corruption, or their economy? Hell, we can't seem to handle our own. I don't think we're capable of it in either country.

Use the illegals you catch as free labor to build a wall to keep out further incursions, then send them back. Make it a horrible experience, & less will try in the future. Hey, it worked for the Chinese way back when, didn't it?

Or you could make 'em spend a very long month rooming with the slingmaster. That oughta bore them enough that they'll never want to return, if the world at large doesn't intervene for the cruelty & inhumanity of it all.

BUUUUT Philby what about the illegal's civil rights? they aren't terrorists (unlike any one who flexes 1st amendment rights against the government or soldiers who come back) and as for the whole idea of making one huge ole North American Union, be careful what you wish for, it could happen...complete with its own constitution that supersedes the American one. Amazing how history perverts great wisdom (like Teddy Roosevelt's opinion on immigration) wonder if the out of control California sheep mindset would have screamed "RACIST!" at that guy...if only we had put our money where out mouth was a few decades ago when we started the whole "great society" idea, don't get me wrong I'm all for a socialized/communistic living solution, but that only works on a small scale...what we need to do is scrap our business law and put the emphasis back on the lil guy instead of some legal entity, money and information on paper, but that'll happen when pigs fly......ohhh wait.....that's killed like 15 thousand people the world over but not to many here so its hardly news anymore

This looks like a job for.... the KGB. (ooops sorry wrong country) lol

Just want you all to know that I go onstage in 7 hours!!

Make that 3 and 1/2 now...

What part of illegal alien do people not understand?
It's not about race, hell thats just illogical. The use of emotion to override common sense is another common libral tactic. My family came here flat assed broke, legally, and scratched their way into a living. The Boheim side of my family were not even considered as white people, did they piss and moan about it, no they roled up their sleaves and worked the land and built their homes paid their taxes and voted.
If your going to ride in the boat, grab an ore and row.
And that goes double for the lazy f**k of all races who are here legal, and not pulling their own weight.

Why aren't I at the club setting up my sh¡t????

Because my wife is still getting ready

AWESOME GIG LAST NIGHT! WIFE WAS DANCIN' ON THE POOL TABLES... PLACE WAS PACKED!













Here's a vid of my wife dancin' on the bar after her 13th drink! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9HHiQVNizI