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Another Houston police officer dies at the hands of a criminal alien. Sorry folks I know this is a tired subject, tired in the sense that we as American citizens feel helpless to do anything about it. While 10's of millions of people with no regard for our laws what so ever, break the law to enter our country and want to be treated as though they have a right to be here. They want to be put in the front of the line for legal citizenship ahead of the good folks that are entering the country legally and obeying our laws to become productive citizens. All the while the president of Mexico creates a hand book to show the citizens of Mexico how to break the law and sneak into the country.
The liberal media does not report these kind of things and our so called politicians are so afraid of the political power that the sypathizers have they won't do anything about it.
The way I see it is, our country is systematically being stolen right from under our noses and we the American people are allowing it to happen out of fear of being called a rascist. This is exactly what the sympathizers want because they know this country has a stigma of rascisim. In my opinion that stigma is going to bring this country to its knee's unless all American citizens OF ALL RACES band together wake up and stop this madness.

Another Houston police officer dies at the hands of a criminal alien. Sorry folks I know this is a tired subject, tired in the sense that we as American citizens feel helpless to do anything about it. While 10's of millions of people with no regard for our laws what so ever, break the law to enter our country and want to be treated as though they have a right to be here. They want to be put in the front of the line for legal citizenship ahead of the good folks that are entering the country legally and obeying our laws to become productive citizens. All the while the president of Mexico creates a hand book to show the citizens of Mexico how to break the law and sneak into the country.
The liberal media does not report these kind of things and our so called politicians are so afraid of the political power that the sypathizers have they won't do anything about it.
The way I see it is, our country is systematically being stolen right from under our noses and we the American people are allowing it to happen out of fear of being called a rascist. This is exactly what the sympathizers want because they know this country has a stigma of rascisim. In my opinion that stigma is going to bring this country to its knee's unless all American citizens OF ALL RACES band together wake up and stop this madness.

I dont mean to rain on your optomistic views, but our country has been circling the drain since the banks took over back in the early 1900s.

More cops are killed by US citizens than illegal immigrants. What do you propose we do about that? Kick out all the Americans?

While 10's of millions of people with no regard for our laws what so ever, break the law to enter our country and want to be treated as though they have a right to be here.

Wow, we have a resident expert on Mexican life right here in our midst!

Way to go J; way to blanket cover an entire nation of people with your ignorance and paint them all as horrible, despicable human beings. I'm sure none of them are at the end of their rope, desperate, and just trying to survive. They're all well off, and they just come over here to shoot our cops and piss you off.


Then again, I wouldn't really expect you to see the big picture. I've read your other posts. You're about as simple minded as they come when it comes to complex issues.

Well we see who the sympathizers around here are, colorsfade I suggest you learn how to read, reread my post because obviously you didn't comprehend what I wrote. Better yet I'll spell it out for you, they want to be put in the front of the line for citizenship ahead of the good folks that are entering the country legally and obeying our laws to become productive citizens. Is that in terms that you can understand colorsfade if you want me to I'll explain it to you again untill you understand it. Did you see the part about the GOOD FOLKS they be Mexican too. They consider it a PRIVILAGE TO BE A U.S. citizen NOT A RIGHT AND I F**KIN AGREE WITH THEM.

More cops are killed by US citizens than illegal immigrants. What do you propose we do about that? Kick out all the Americans?

While 10's of millions of people with no regard for our laws what so ever, break the law to enter our country and want to be treated as though they have a right to be here.

Wow, we have a resident expert on Mexican life right here in our midst!

Way to go J; way to blanket cover an entire nation of people with your ignorance and paint them all as horrible, despicable human beings. I'm sure none of them are at the end of their rope, desperate, and just trying to survive. They're all well off, and they just come over here to shoot our cops and piss you off.


Then again, I wouldn't really expect you to see the big picture. I've read your other posts. You're about as simple minded as they come when it comes to complex issues.

Congratulations to Mr color for bringing your delightful remarks to us
all.

We could just confuse everyone and change our name to Mexico, and Mexico to U.S.A. That would bring back the 1955 chevy!

Well we see who the sympathizers around here are

I empathize with anyone who gets dealt a bad hand at life. Maybe that's a human capacity that you lack?

Would you want to be born into the slums of Mexico? What would you do if you were in that position? How desperate would you have to be before you decided to cross the border illegally into the US in search of a better life? How hungry and hopeless would you need to be to do that? When does your moral righteousness cease controlling your behavior?

You wouldn't even be the same person you are right now if you were born and raised in that society and that environment, so it's impossible to answer the question. But the point is to get you to THINK. To ponder, what must that be like? Maybe there's more to the whole picture than you are thinking about...



My question to you is: if it had been a US citizen who had shot that cop, would your reaction today have been any different? What would you be angry about? Would it be the same level of anger? Would you be just as outraged?

Personally - I've got a problem with anyone who shoots a cop. Illegal immigrant, legal US citizen - it doesn't make a difference to me. But that's the result of an individual, human decision, not an entire race of people.

Did you see the part about the GOOD FOLKS they be Mexican too.

Sure, I saw what you wrote. But to me, it seemed like a guy who was trying to cover his ass, so someone wouldn't call him out. It didn't seem sincere. You used it to backup your argument, which in and of itself appears hateful, spiteful, isolationist and borderline racist.



Bottom line is, you and I see things differently. You read a story about an illegal immigrant killing a cop, and your mind immediately goes to the "illegal immigrant" part. You focus on that and see this huge problem that we've got to take care of, by God, or we're all doomed!

If I read the same story, I focus on the "cop killed" part. I think of how sad and tragic that is, that loss of life, and how the family must feel, and what a stupid, pointless thing violence is. The fact that the guy was in illegal immigrant doesn't even factor into the picture for me. It's a non-issue.


I think I've got a lot wider world view than you. You see things as America vs. the World. Keep everyone out, keep stuff to ourselves, don't share anything, just be our own island. I just happen to think that's an outdated mode of thinking.

I have a different take. I don't see nations so much; those are invisible, man-made lines; easily changed or removed with the passage of time, treaties, war and death. Someday, in the likely event humans die out and the Earth lives beyond us, those lines won't exist.

I see a world that we all have to share; we all have to be responsible for it. We all have to share in the resources. I don't care about race and color and geography and nationality. If something horrible happens to this planet - a giant meteor crashes into it, or we irreversible ruin the climate, or we destroy the ozone layer, or we shoot a crapload of nukes at each other, or aliens invade (hey, strange things can happen) then it's not going to matter what side of some imaginary border you're born on. We'll all be in the sh*t together.

That guy, on the other side of the border, down in Mexico, who can't get a decent paying job, can't feed his family, has everyone depending on him, feels stressed out 24/7 and longs for a better life on the north side of some imaginary border... That could be anyone one of us if fate turns out different.

We could just confuse everyone and change our name to Mexico, and Mexico to U.S.A. That would bring back the 1955 chevy!

On the same kind of not-so-serious note, I was originally going to say that maybe the way to solve the problem is simply to annex Mexico. Take it over and make them all US citizens. Force their employers to pay minimum wage, provide benefits, and then tax the lot of 'em.

I mean, really - they want what we have. Their own government clearly can't get the job done. So let's do what a corporation does to a struggling competitor: just do a merger and and then layoff the management.

As a recent legal immigrant who has been naturalized I can say without doubt that no one who who has yet responded has a clue about it at all.

I've stood in line with everyone.

Mr Colorsfade, Iam glad that in your cushy little world, that you see thru your rose colored glasses obviously it hasn't affected you other than the fact that a significant amount of the taxes you pay support their health care education of their children. Hey but easy come easy go right you can just live for today and to hell with tomorrow right.
I have been a carpenter and construction worker for 37 years and I have worked elbow to elbow with them digging ditches and everything bro. so don't tell me I am ignorant and don't know what the hell is going on. My Stepmom imigrated here from Columbia in the 60's with 4 kids and she got in line and did it the right way. Why can't you people get it thru your thick heads we are not against imigration WE ARE AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The last 2 police officers killed in the line of duty in the city of Houston were killed by criminal aliens, one raped my daughter for years and he started when she was 4 years old dude and 40% of the inmates in Texas prisons are illegal aliens. So you can just stick your head back in the sand Mr. Colorsfade and give this country away. Not me I am going to scream it from the Highest Moutain top.

Ouch Haley.
Your right. I think if you go somewhere you learn the lingo and do the documents. Incidentally I know a story of a grocery store that has a whole village brought over from one country to run it. I won't say origin because it doesn't matter at all but in these times........

one raped my daughter for years and he started when she was 4 years old dude and 40% of the inmates in Texas prisons are illegal aliens. So you can just stick your head back in the sand Mr. Colorsfade and give this country away. Not me I am going to scream it from the Highest Moutain top.

Oh and one more thing. No you don't have a wider view of the world. Your view in fact is vary narrow minded. This country feeds more starving people and helps more country's than any other country on earth. But there is a limit to what we can do. Our views differ in the way that you are ignorant to the fact that there is a limit to how much we can spend. Your grand children that haven't even been born yet now owe about $68,000 you may not care but I do. I am not willing to mortgage any more of my grandkids future. Not at least without speaking up!

Oh and one more thing. No you don't have a wider view of the world. Your view in fact is vary narrow minded. This country feeds more starving people and helps more country's than any other country on earth. But there is a limit to what we can do. Our views differ in the way that you are ignorant to the fact that there is a limit to how much we can spend. Your grand children that haven't even been born yet now owe about $68,000 you may not care but I do. I am not willing to mortgage any more of my grandkids future. Not at least without speaking up!

Do you think your children owe that because of our humanitarian efforts, or because of the wars of Bush? (Obviously the answer is "both", because every expenditure contributes to the national debt, but which reason do you think contributes to the debt pie more?)

You still haven't answered my question either (unwilling, unable?): If those cops had been shot by US citizens, does that change your reaction at all? Do you not get as worked up about it? I'm reading a lot of outrage from you over illegal immigrants, but nothing you're writing tells me that you care about domestic problems at all. It is as if the illegal immigrants are the sole problem in your eyes, and yet you just wrote that 60% of inmates are US residents. Where's the outrage over domestic criminals?

You think the illegal immigrants are the only strain on our health care system? What about the millions of legal US residents without health care? What about America's propensity for obesity and fast food restaurants? We're an unhealthy nation getting fatter by the minute.


I don't know if you see what you're doing here... You're targeting an entire group of people - illegal immigrants - and trying to blame them for a host of problems for which they are only one contributing factor. Are illegal immigrants a problem? They CAN be, just like Joe down the street, who is a 4th generation American, can be a problem. Either one of them is just as capable of doing you harm as the other.

Your daughter was raped - my condolences. No parent deserves to have that happen to their kid. But do you really think that the fact that the person was an illegal immigrant has anything to do with that? Dude, wake up! There are rapists all over this country, all over the world, and they're not all "illegal aliens". Do you really think a person's legal status in a country has anything to do with their proclivity to rape?

It has nothing to do with it. If I cross over into Canada accidentally on a mountain hike, dude, I don't suddenly turn into a rapist because I crossed a border. That's an individual behavior; a mental defect that has nothing to do with legal status in a given country.


There are bad people in this world. And some of them enter our nation as illegal immigrants. And a whole lot more of them are already living here as US residents...

GUYS....GUYS....GUYS.... Problem solved.


Three men - an az Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden
and a Mister Troll are all walking together one day.
They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of it.
'I will give each of you one wish, which is three wishes
in total', says the Genie.

The Canadian az says, 'I am a farmer and my son will also farm.
I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada '
POOF! With the blink of the Genie's eye, the land in Canada was
forever fertile for farming.

Osama was amazed, so he said, 'I want a wall around Mexico, Afghanistan,
Palestine, Iraq, Cuba and Iran so that no infidels, Canadians
can come into our precious land.' POOF! Again, with the blink of the
Genie's eye, there was a huge wall around those countries.

Mister Troll says, 'I am very curious. Please tell me more about this wall.'
The Genie explains, 'Well, it's about 5,000 feet high, 500 feet thick
and completely surrounds the country. Nothing can get in or out;
it's virtually impenetrable.' The Trollster sits down on his Harley, cracks
a beer, lights a joint, smiles and says, 'Fill it with water.'

The reason I haven't answered your question is because it is irrelevent. The fact is those police officers were shot by criminal aliens. None of your hypothetical scenario's is going to change that. As far as your question regarding do I think illegal aliens are the whole problem of coarse not. Greed from big buisness and wasteful government spending is the problem. Growing government is not the answer IT IS THE PROBLEM. But illegal immigration is a huge part of it. As far as legal citizens go I would much rather help them when they are down and out. But I would prefer the old adage give a man a fish and he eats for a day teach him to fish and he eats for life. I think it is utterly rediculas the way you compare the non citizens who sneak into this country that want nothing to do with us except to exploit our economy to the legal deserving citizens SHAME ON YOU DUDE! In fact as I have told you I have worked with them and beleive me when I tell you 90% of them like you about as much as Osama Bin Laden does buddy. The difference between the way we view things is obvious you haven't really been affected and you have liberal viewpoints and thats okay that is what makes healthy debate. But I see things from a conservative view. Once you get a little more experience under your belt (you become affected) you will understand don't worry. No I am not bitter and I have plenty of compassion. But I'll be damned if I am going to except people breaking the law of this land to sneak over here to take down the American flag and place the Mexican flag on top of the flagpole at one of our High Schools, exploit our economy, not assimilate, exhaust our humane resources, rape my daughter, run into the back of my truck with no drivers liscence, no insurance, no phone no. no address couldn't speak English I think anyone that would except these kind of things and stick up for them is a dumbass.

RGM, im really thanking you for that.
Jeff, they arent going to understand untill milk is $50 a gallon. gas is $50 a gallon,new strings for your guit are$300,and nobody can afford to put on a rock show any more because electricity is out of sight cost wise.
You're scratching an itch that is just begining to fester. I have to say it is very easy for people to misinterpret and misunderstand things that you type up here. its also very sad my typing sucks!!!! my verbal skills don't!!!