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#58797 by Paleopete
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:03 pm
lol...and how are your ears philby? I've been wondering about your earache problem from a few weeks ago, been intending to give ya a ring and just haven't...well, I did try a couple of times and got no answer...

I've been fortunate I guess, I've spent a lot of time onstage with loud bands and don't notice any serious loss if highs, especially when I light up a left handed one, :D

Seriously though, so far it hasn't given me trouble, but then again when I was tested for the military they told me I could hear frequencies the human ear is not supposed to hear. I heard someone's dog whistle one day, and in my 20's I could hear a TV come on in the next room, before it warmed up and the picture and volume came on. I always have and still do have an ultra high pitched ringing in my ears, higher pitch than crickets, that never goes away and has been there as long as I can remember. Same as that damn little guitar player in my head come to think of it...

I think if you're playing loud music onstage, earplugs would be a good idea. A 15 watt practice amp or 30 watt bass amp probably won't be able to produce the volume level necessary to cause ear damage, but onstage with 100 watt amps and up, yeah you're in the danger zone.

#58798 by ted_lord
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:09 pm
yah thats the only perk to having a tiny lil guy to call your own, that and you don't need an army to move the freakin thing

#58804 by The KIDD
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:52 pm
Yeah, I think alot of us can look back and remember incidents where we came home from a gig/concert and had partial hearing loss just from that nite for a couple days, then it would always return.I think its so gradual that one day ya just notice that everyone around ya never talks loud enough. Ya start accusin people of mumbling and cell PHs are NEVER loud enough.Im constantly keyin that lil button on the side :lol: Yep, BUT human nature cuases us to say OH now come on, this aint gonna happen to ME. Im young, Im wild , Im free...Got the magic power of the music in ME....I just dont hear it so well now... :lol:

#58809 by jw123
Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:47 pm
My first reaction is that you should just turn down. If you are practicing by yourself that shouldnt be a problem on the bass. I do a lot of practice on electric guitar not even plugged to an amp. Doing this will make you a more precise player.

My ears have a constant ringing in them from years of abuse. Ive tryed earplugs even the expensive ones and I cant stand them. I think if you can get used to them early on you will be better off. My band trys to keep our volume around 96 to 100 dbs. 96 is where OSHA says damge can start for extended periods of time. We pumped the pa outside at my house one time and got into the 120 db range. I would learn to play below these extreme levels. Most places will not let you play that loud unless you are playing one of those teenie bopper multi band deals. We ran sound for a couple of those and the club asked us to turn up. I did put in ear plugs for that cause most of those bands were deficient in the playing department.

Once again. just turn down. If its still doing it then go see a doctor, you may have something else wrong.

Remember tone has nothing to do with volume!

#58810 by Andragon
Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:57 pm
jw123 wrote:Remember tone has nothing to do with volume!

Yea, but VERY high volume can override good tone and make you think it sounds bad.

#58814 by philbymon
Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:09 pm
My ear is much better, but it still isn't 100% yet. Thanks for asking, Pete.

It's an on-going thing for me. Sinuses, no doubt.

They hit me bad when I travel to another climate, too. 1st day when I go over 100 miles in any direction, I'm down for the day with excrutiating blinding head aches. Then it seems to settle down & I'll be okay until it's time to come back home, where the process repeats itself.

The ear aches used to scare the hell outta me, but I've kinda gotten used to them, as much as anyone can. The scarring on my eardrums hasn't seemed to hurt me too much. I had a hearing test about 8 yrs ago, & they said I was better than average in that dept. Kinda shocked me, considering all the troubles I've had over the years.

#58890 by fisherman bob
Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:25 am
Damn, loud music causes hearing loss, viagra causes loss of eyesight, at least I'll still be able to taste things and have a sense of touch (hopefully) when I get older. Damn, I'm already old. Oh well I've had fun along the way...

#58902 by Paleopete
Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:43 pm
Ive tryed earplugs even the expensive ones and I cant stand them. I think if you can get used to them early on you will be better off.


Me too. I was required to wear earplugs for a while working in refineries, a couple of hours resulted in PAIN. Lots of it by the time a 12 hour shift was over with, the damn things hurt my ears no matter what type I wore. I got the most expensive ones I could find too, same thing, screaming headache after a couple of hours. The ones that hurt the least were the el cheapo foam ones, and they did just as good at filtering noise as any others.

The only thing I found that didn't cause lots of pain was the "mickey mouse ears" type, similar to headphones, that a lot of shooters wear. They don't cause pain, but they do make you look funny...never tried them onstage, who knows it might be a good stage prop...

#58907 by jw123
Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:16 pm
Maybe you could put some big ole rabbit ears on to hide the headphones!

Locally we have a drummer who runs his ear monitors into a big headset, looks funky but he told me he couldnt stand the in ear types. Hes my age and is used to big headphones.

Man I must be bored today, Im spending to much time here!

#58911 by Andragon
Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:29 pm
fisherman bob wrote:Damn, loud music causes hearing loss, viagra causes loss of eyesight, at least I'll still be able to taste things and have a sense of touch (hopefully) when I get older. Damn, I'm already old. Oh well I've had fun along the way...

ROFL so true. Moderation is the key.. well, except for sex.

#58925 by Starfish Scott
Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:14 pm
wow...

I ALWAYS wear a pair of -80db plugs. ALWAYS. MUST. No other choice.

Without them, I won't play or even hang around.. I can't my ears go bananas and I end up thinking someone's cell phone is ringing. (REALLY)

Only problem is that sometimes I can miss some of the very low notes because of them.. (bass register) I just end up not being able to discern them clearly enough, so I either loosen one plug very slightly or wing it.

I went to a Judas Priest show at the Spectrum long ago. After the show, my ears rang for about 24 hours. After that I never could stand anything too loud without some kind of plugs.

(and no torn up napkins are going to make due, forget that fallacy of composition)

EDIT: The mickey mouse shooters over-the-ear types filter out a ton of noise, but too much good noise as well.

#58939 by ColorsFade
Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:23 pm
I wear ear plugs when our band practices. Your hearing is your life as a musician, you can't afford to lose it.


I recommend this pair: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EarPlugPro/


They protect your ears without losing fidelity, so you can still hear everything.

#59000 by gbheil
Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:28 am
What Duck? Where?

Now thats good info ColorsFade:

I have a set of military style plugs I use at the range. I can hear conversation allowing me to direct my sons fire and maintain safety. But the constant cracking of the rifles does not hurt my ears. I am going to try them out at practice.

#59059 by clarc
Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:12 pm
I would wear them any time you think you need to.
you all remember what hapened to Pete Townsend.
Great guitar man gone deff,by his own acount he can't here
half of what he plays.

clarc

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