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#51334 by ghost 62
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:15 am
have you ever heard a song played on the radio that you liked .but that keeps being played tell you cant stand it anymore.lately thats how im feeling about our sets and its not because their bad songs its just playin them over and over ,plus being the singer and having to learn the words and music makes it hard to perform with emotion,even new music has been this way for me.I dont know maybe im just in a funk. whats your thoughts ? has any one gone through this? maybe im just gettin old and crabby :evil:

#51336 by repressthecadence
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:41 am
Sure, that happens to all of us at least once. But I don't listen to the radio much anymore, and what I like scarcely gets airplay, so I've solved that problem for myself.

#51337 by The KIDD
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:46 am
OH Jesus yeah, are you kiddin. I always marvel at new band practices when a new lead singer is learnin tunes I played 6 nites a week in 78-94
Yeah, Ill go thru this 3-4 times a yr at least.Now days, its seems someones leaving and someone taking their place MUCH more often than in my road daze forcing the band to re hearse old tunes so the arr. can be learned by the new guy. BUT, I guess being a drummer and having control over intros and endings, I strive for new replacement parts to create interesting arrs' so they dont become boring.Cant really answer to the new stuff except as a bass player, Ive been takin country jobs here lately and the newer country is pretty involved arr' wise so its a challenge.
I play such a mix of genres so it never really gets boring personally, but as a band, it can come off stale. A drummer can kick ass but if everyone else is not feelin the dynamic, it really stands out.. :lol:..Some people I used to play with out W where being a human jukebox was prevelent, and you could set your watch by them, those cats deemed it perfectly normal to stay tight on 45 tunes for a yr. They were a diff breed.. :lol:
Yeah , your lucky if ya getta play more of the free form stuff, not so lucky for a cover dance/ show band.But, yeah we used to get on the elevator and say , Man , Id rather take a beaten than play tonite.. :lol: No more than I play now ,I doubt that will ever come outta my mouth again.. :lol:

John

#51339 by J-HALEY
Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:04 am
I have to tell you, I skipped over the responses to your post and tell you.

That is a very good thing, and if it is not perfectlly clear to you now I frikken prommise you it will be!!!!!

#51340 by AlexanderN
Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:54 am
Ghost 62 - you are not alone!

Same here.
Routine:
1) Fire up Cubase
2) record a riff
3) practice a lead over that riff

At first the lead sucks, then it develops. Then it sounds awesome (or so I think) A week later that same lead sound like crap. Change the lead. for the 100th time.

Then that same riff begin to sound sucky because I heard it 100,000 times over. Change the riff.

Another week passes by. I listen to the whole thing and realize that it will not work like that. so:

DELETE.
(or shove it to some remote part of my hard drive where I will find it a year later)

REPEAT steps one through three.

I hate all my tunes. With a passion. Hate it and love it. I can't do it any other way and I quietly envy those who has it easy. If there are people like that.

Another thing. I hate when that red button flashing "recording" because it gives me absolute hibbie-gibbies: Don't mess up, don't mess up, don't messup. sh*t. Messed it up. Punch in? or start over? Ah Start over.

So no, you are not a lone.

.

#51343 by J-HALEY
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:17 am
There is a radio station here in Houston called 93.7 F.M
Dean and Rodge. anyway these guy'sare frikkin hilarious.

Several years ago I went looking for a job. Yeah my day gig wasn't producing what it was supposed to!

Anyway one of our brother Musicians that was seeing impared from this area. and (we all know who he is) that works for T.W.C. Texas Workforce Commision told me what a sell out he is, and I was like are you kidding me. I am just looking for a job for my day gig and your telling me this. Please don't miss understand me this guy is very TALENTED and very well known and connected, around the Galveston Bay Area.

My point is, in 1974 Freebird from Skynard came out I learned how to play the slide part and all of it it note for note by 1976.

shortly after that I learned about Van Halen, Punk, Judas Preist, Sex, baby Drugs, and Rock and Roll, I was watching an enterveiw with the lead singer of (Great White) before the horrable disaster in Boston where he said don't try this at home kids because I am a proffessional.

If you are going to call yourself a proffessional and you are playing music you don't believe in, then you my friend are the f**k sell out and there is no if's but's or anything else. and baby (you f**k know who you are) this post is only meant for people in the Houston area only (period)

#51348 by Hayden King
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:53 am
so this guy left your band and went to Jesus rock for the money?

#51350 by Andragon
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:59 am
Pretty much every famous song...

#51360 by RyanStrain3032
Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:47 am
See, I'm different...I can play a song over and over and over for 48 hours and still love it every single time

#51370 by Gi
Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:01 pm
ghost 62-- nice songs you have.
i like "make it now" the best and think you should pump it up a little with a heavier rhythm guitar @ 2:50. what do i know-- its your baby, but i think it would be great to crescendo.

i got off topic....sorry

#51372 by Kramerguy
Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:27 pm
with covers, sure, I can't stand playing tons of songs, and most of them I generally liked before I started playing them.

As far as my own stuff, I've written melodies and done many scratch recordings for years, and even the stuff that needs major refining still for some reason sounds precious to me, sour notes and all. I love occasionally loading up an old demo and playing along to it. It never seems sensible to try to work on or finish most of it, just because most of the writing I did was in the 80's and early 90's, and it all sounds extremely dated now.

#51375 by fisherman bob
Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:59 pm
You have to remember that when you gig a lot of the audience has never heard you perform the song before. It will always be new to a lot of people around you. Also if you're doing covers and they get stale CHANGE them a little. Slow them down, speed them up, add a bridge, figure out a new intro or ending, do SOMETHING a little different to the song. It's OKAY to play a cover YOUR OWN WAY. Change some of the lyrics if you don't like them. And definitely start adding originals to your repertoire. If you're doing covers sneak an original in once in a while, maybe in the third or fourth set. Do something musical for YOU. I know sometimes playing the song the same way over and over makes you feel like your a mynah bird or something. I'm NOT a live jukebox. I'm an interpretative musician. Later...

#51377 by ghost 62
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:23 pm
fisherman bob wrote:You have to remember that when you gig a lot of the audience has never heard you perform the song before. It will always be new to a lot of people around you. Also if you're doing covers and they get stale CHANGE them a little. Slow them down, speed them up, add a bridge, figure out a new intro or ending, do SOMETHING a little different to the song. It's OKAY to play a cover YOUR OWN WAY. Change some of the lyrics if you don't like them. And definitely start adding originals to your repertoire. If you're doing covers sneak an original in once in a while, maybe in the third or fourth set. Do something musical for YOU. I know sometimes playing the song the same way over and over makes you feel like your a mynah bird or something. I'm NOT a live jukebox. I'm an interpretative musician. Later...
actually im doing everything you said ,so that makes me feel better about it,being in a 3 pc band with electric drums we pretty much play all the songs our way we also play about 5 originals and mix up our sets .you evedintly have felt this way before too ,cause you nailed it right on the head.sometimes I just feel like a machine instead of a musician,thx 4 everyones input

#51379 by ghost 62
Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:28 pm
Gi wrote:ghost 62-- nice songs you have.
i like "make it now" the best and think you should pump it up a little with a heavier rhythm guitar @ 2:50. what do i know-- its your baby, but i think it would be great to crescendo.

i got off topic....sorry
thx glad you liked the music and thx for the suggestions

#51392 by philbymon
Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:38 pm
Yeah, over the last 9 or 10 years, many's the time that Dddonnie called out a tune that made me groan. Usually, it's cuz I don't think it'll work with this audience, but there's other times that I'm just so sick of the damned thing I never wanna hear it again. Funny thing, though. When we nail it (again!) & the audience likes it, I feel good.

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