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#50990 by philbymon
Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:36 am
My son got us a HD TV & Blueray for Xmas! I just sat through Floyd at Pompei on DVD. Forgot how amateurish it was, really, compared to Gilmour's later stuff, yet I still like it for some reason. Always loved him. He's gotta be one of the tastiest ever.

#51026 by Black57
Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:51 pm
gtZip wrote:I hear the emotion in a lot of what malmsteen has done. I don't buy what the blues based guitar people usually have to say about him.. that theres no feel, no emotion or anything. I hear plenty of it.
I think more than anything its the classical style that turns people off. And the little copycat race that he started of classical style played as fast as you can.
some lead guitar I would pick David Gilmour.
Here he is fighting a 2000 year old fender strat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W6hBI1SAL4


I teach legit playing ( classical style ). But I can't teach it well without telling my students to play their music as if Arteth Franklin was doing it. Who's Aretha Franklin? They always say. Then I play an Aretha Franklin tune for them. Listen to how she belts parts that need to be belted and is subdued where it is needed to be subdued. Notice her feeling , her expression. Suddenly, Teleman comes to life. Suddenly boring, enexpressive classical music...rocks. To really get the full circle of music you gotta connect the dots. If you leave out any of the dots the music seems disjoined and unrelated. We think of Bach as a Classical/Baroque composer be he was actually a jazz player.Once the dots are connected then the full story can be told.

I liked the David Gilmour vid. Thanks.

Liked this very much.

#51031 by Hayden King
Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:06 pm
if your not expressing something through your instrument, your just making noise, not music!
a song is an expression of state of being or state of mind.
some think that as long as words are coming out of their mouth, they're talking...when actually, they're just babbling!
I say talk to me or shut the f**k up!


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#51074 by philbymon
Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:50 am
Quitting guitar cuz someone is better than you'll ever be? You may as well quit driving or having sex or cooking or eating or even BREATHING! There's always gonna be someone who does it better. I hope you learned to relax a bit, JH, & remember that no one chooses the same notes as you, the same phrases. No one else can write what you do, be it great or less than great. You're the only guy who can do what you do the way you do it.

Sometimes you just hafta be happy with that, my friend. Life isn't a competition.

#51078 by J-HALEY
Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:38 am
Philby, that was when I was a much younger man in 1983 and in one of my responses I wrote that I learned that you don't have to be the best there is to make music and now I say "you just have to be the best you can be" also I didn't say I quit completely I kept playing acoustically.
I was just being honest and trying to say how good I think Yngvie is. I also think Aretha Franklin is one of the best vocalist ever. I agree with you 100% about everything you said in your last post Black57.

these day's I am very comfortable in my own skin and my musical abilty 1983 was 25 years ago, just listen to my guitar solo's in "Lost My Baby", or Beyond Blue (I'm playing 5 guitar tracks on Beyond Blue) that was in 1996 and my playing has progressed light years since then and my vocals are on every song on that album. The Houston Music Council voted that cd the best local original album for 1996 the name of the band was Rare Seed and the name of the album was Into The Light and that was my shot at making it.

#51080 by AlexanderN
Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:53 am
I quit playing guitar for 2 years because of this in 1983


...Quitting guitar cuz someone is better than you'll ever be? You may as well quit driving or having sex or cooking or eating or even BREATHING!..


Never ever give up.

Years ago I was in a bike accident, I could not move my right arm and left wrist was all broken up and yet I did not give up. No one ever should. Play the best you can. The more you play and the more different music you try to play the better you are.

...The Houston Music Council voted that cd the best local original album for 1996...


Never ever give up.

#51088 by Hayden King
Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:15 am
philbymon wrote:Quitting guitar cuz someone is better than you'll ever be? You may as well quit driving or having sex or cooking or eating or even BREATHING! There's always gonna be someone who does it better. I hope you learned to relax a bit, JH, & remember that no one chooses the same notes as you, the same phrases. No one else can write what you do, be it great or less than great. You're the only guy who can do what you do the way you do it.

Sometimes you just hafta be happy with that, my friend. Life isn't a competition.


what he said!
I write for me. if others like it, that's a beautiful thing.
if they dont like it, they dont matter!


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#51120 by Black57
Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:28 pm
J-HALEY wrote: I also think Aretha Franklin is one of the best vocalist ever. I agree with you 100% about everything you said in your last post Black57.



Actually, I adopted this idea from a flute teacher I had when I was a little kid. He told me to play with soul...you know...like Aretha Franklin. What a concept, play classical music with feeling? Geeze, I wonder how Beethoven did it without Aretha? :wink: Anyway, this does indeed help students to understand the concept of playing classical music with feeling.
Classical music relies on the written page...but what is written on the page isn't what makes music, music. Music is what comes out of the musician, the creator your inner Aretha. We all have her and she is there for every form of music we choose to play. :wink:

#51132 by Black57
Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:55 pm
If you don't have the music under your fingers, emotion is not going to save you. You have to have skill unless you want to play totally alone. Having skills gices your comrades the assurance that you will be there in the music as the expect you to be. by not having the technique, you will not be able to release your creativity. It is like building a house. You gotta have the bricks, mortar and design but without that stuff, you can't paint or decorate. You can't put your signature on it without first getting the canvas. Music is no different.

#51133 by AlexanderN
Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:01 pm
Black57 wrote:You have to have skill unless you want to play totally alone.


I must have none than.

#51137 by Black57
Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:08 pm
AlexanderN wrote:
Black57 wrote:You have to have skill unless you want to play totally alone.


I must have none than.


Shard, you do indeed have skill.

#51139 by Kramerguy
Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:15 pm
I also appreciate Yngwie, but at the same time, don't care for Vai, Satriani, and most of the other ilk.

Yngwie always seemed to be more focused on his structures and precision, and like someone else said, bends, vibrato, and like me, his favorite scales are the phyrigan and dominant scales. I'm still trying to master the usage of them, but will someday soon post some shredding and earn Crip's respect :P

#51142 by Shapeshifter
Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:56 pm
The idea of playing or not playing with "feeling" always irritated me. Malmsteen is a guy that works to perfect his craft. Why? Because he makes money doing it? Sure, but there's something else...passion for what he does!
He wants to be the best at what he does. He wants to push himself to be better. I've read inerviews with him where he spoke about certain parts he's played and said "Oh, God, that was hard to get down!" While the music he plays may sound technical and sometimes calculated, there's certainly a dump-truck sized load of passion, i.e., "feeling", put into it. It's not my cup of tea, so to speak, but I have to respect, not only his talent, but also the amount of heart and soul it takes to reach that level.

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